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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: blakespot on July 03, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
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I have been inspired by Stephen Jones' A1000 love and video(s):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOQkxZ4nhdg
And have decided to load my A1000 (40MB SCSI drive) up with apps and _loosely_ access the Internet via serial link to my iMac, etc.
I am wondering what the best terminal prog that works under WB 1.3 is - pref w/ ANSI support.
Here's my A1000:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8213/8326260488_2d1698e36e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8326260488/)
The Amiga 1000 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8326260488/) by blakespot (http://www.flickr.com/people/blakespot/), on Flickr
Thanks.
bp
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I like JRComm myself..
No idea if it's the best tho..
desiv
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I like BaudBandit for something quick and dirty, and "Online!" for full featured. They both should run under 1.3 without problems.
@desiv: I seem to recall that JRComm was pretty good too.
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ncomm without any doubt
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Does NComm work with WB1.3?
JR-Comm is nice and works well with WB1.3. I used it a lot back in the day. Now I use Term, wich does not work with 1.3.
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Does NComm work with WB1.3?
yes
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So does ncomm suport Ip connections, i.e. telneting to a BBS?
Also do any of these support the MS-DOS ANSI codes?
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Any Amiga term prog should support MS ANSI, and should deal with telnet connections just fine with the proper telnet*.device.
Check Aminet for whichever telnet .device would suit your needs best, There's several.
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I've had some experience in the past with ANSI editors and terminal programs on the Amiga applying it's colour standards which destroys the ANSI art.
But that was sometime ago now, 20+ years. (scary)
Not really a problem these days as telnet boards operate through a web browser just fine.
But you can't beat a proper terminal in full screen. Will have a play, thanks Duce :-)
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Any Amiga term prog should support MS ANSI,
Well, the rub is in the definition of "support"... ;-)
I had one Amiga terminal program (can't remember which) that came with it's own IBM ANSI font to better display the ANSI ART on the BBSes...
I'll have to try the telnet.device(s). I've only done telnet BBSing from my A1000 with a serial to ethernet bridge. I'll have to try the software .device on my A1200...
Thanx for the heads up.
desiv
p.s. @blakespot, That A1000 is a thing of beauty!!! Nice!!!!
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I wrote a program that you runs windows box (c# .NET) and allows you to connect you Amiga via serial and do various things like send and receive files, search Aminet & download, gateway out to BBS systems, etc... if interested...
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=681242&postcount=6
I'm also 100% sure NComm does IBM ANSI art perfectly if you install the font.
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I tried out both NComm and JR-Comm recently and they both work fine on my A500 with Kickstart 1.2. Both support ANSI gfx when picking the right font, however I found that JR-Comm is significantly faster + it has some more terminal emulation modes to choose from. Does anybody know what the latest version of this excellent piece of software is? And does anybody know how to contact the author (John P. Ranigan)? Maybe he would agree to put it on Aminet...
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You should be able to create a SLIP connection on OS 1.3 using AmigaNOS; https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/comp.sys.amiga.datacomm/2bgw_yNen4Q/MHf3X7xQVpwJ
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@ Blakespot
Nice pic!
I tried out both NComm and JR-Comm recently and they both work fine on my A500 with Kickstart 1.2. Both support ANSI gfx when picking the right font, however I found that JR-Comm is significantly faster + it has some more terminal emulation modes to choose from. Does anybody know what the latest version of this excellent piece of software is? And does anybody know how to contact the author (John P. Ranigan)? Maybe he would agree to put it on Aminet...
Significantly faster how? Connection speed should depend on the serial.device, the modem and preference settings.
I never used JR-Comm. If it is freeware these days, I might try it. I remember moving up to NComm to get ANSI capability. At the time, I was very impressed with it. IIRC, the full last version is available today on Aminet (freeware?).
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Problem with ANSI usually always falls back to the font issue. Use the right font and you'll rarely see issues.
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Significantly faster how? Connection speed should depend on the serial.device, the modem and preference settings.
True, so it must be the gfx/text performance. Pages build up noticably quicker on JR-Comm, at least on my stock OCS A500 with 1 MB chip RAM. I tested both programs with a 19.2 kbps connection.
I remember moving up to NComm to get ANSI capability. At the time, I was very impressed with it. IIRC, the full last version is available today on Aminet (freeware?).
There is a 3.0 version, 3.06 update and free keyfile, yes.
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I believe NComm has a smaller memory footprint, slightly smaller than JRComm, and NComm seems to be speedy on 1.2, 1.3 systems and it should give you everything you need. It was the first term program I used in the modem days for the amiga.
JRComm is also good, but seems to be better suited for 2.0 and up environments.
Then there is "Term", which is admittedly very large but very functional, might be overkill and probably only 2.0 and up.
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ncomm without any doubt
Oh wow that brought back memories. +1 vote for ncomm!
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Wasn't JRComm replaced by Terminus which required WB 2.x of later.
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Wasn't JRComm replaced by Terminus which required WB 2.x of later.
Terminus works happily on WB 1.2. I can't see any advantage to JR-Comm and NComm though.
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True, so it must be the gfx/text performance. Pages build up noticably quicker on JR-Comm, at least on my stock OCS A500 with 1 MB chip RAM. I tested both programs with a 19.2 kbps connection.
There is a 3.0 version, 3.06 update and free keyfile, yes.
are you running them both in the same number of color planes? ie jr-comm running in mono or 4 color vs ncomm running in default 8 color?
I run on my minimig 1.1 which has much better chipram speed so I don't notice any difference at all.
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are you running them both in the same number of color planes? ie jr-comm running in mono or 4 color vs ncomm running in default 8 color?
I ran them both in 8 color mode and connected to d1st.org, a BBS with quite massive ANSI gfx.
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@Blakespot,
Hey if you can find one look at the fred fish collection if you can find a list, they had a really good terminal porgram, during the first three months that it came out, I know because I needed a program when I was in the Navy, I was using a C< 64 to put training stuff in the mainframe, bought an Amiga and found that program on fred fish, can't remember the name but it was during the first 3 months that Amiga came out.
Best part it was free.
smerf
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I believe NComm has a smaller memory footprint, slightly smaller than JRComm, and NComm seems to be speedy on 1.2, 1.3 systems and it should give you everything you need. It was the first term program I used in the modem days for the amiga.
JRComm is also good, but seems to be better suited for 2.0 and up environments.
I think you're mixing up the two, JR-Comm is definitely faster on 1.x and also uses slightly less RAM. A freshly started JR-Comm leaves me with 482056 bytes free on my A500, vs 464712 bytes using NComm. Both with an 8 color screen. NComm has the clear advantage of being available for free in Aminet though.
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On a completely, not completely unrelated side note:
How's performance with such slow systems? I'd like to hook a miggy up to a Linux box over the serial port, but I'm not sure it'd actually be usable.
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On a completely, not completely unrelated side note:
How's performance with such slow systems? I'd like to hook a miggy up to a Linux box over the serial port, but I'm not sure it'd actually be usable.
I just posted a video which should give you an impression:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65930
This is NComm with 8 colors. Less colors = more speed.
JR-Comm = even more speed :D
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I still like Baud Bandit. I have BB 2.0.
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Are there any good VT100 style telnet terminals that run windowed? Like whabang I'm more interested in controlling a headless linux system than logging into BBSes, so ANSI character sets and loads of colors isn't that important to me
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ANSI BBSs were never a big deal for me either. In fact, I used 4color screen for NComm and JRComm and I still maintain NComm was snappier, regardless of the throughput (serial throughput is going to vary). Bring it up to 8 or 16 colors and you are starting to see some load on the ami system, which affects the printing of characters to screen and the like.
I though AmiTCP came with a VT100 emulator (napsaterm), could be mistaken or corrected on it though. Didn't use AmiTCP much once MiamiDX came along.
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Are there any good VT100 style telnet terminals that run windowed? Like whabang I'm more interested in controlling a headless linux system than logging into BBSes, so ANSI character sets and loads of colors isn't that important to me
VLT? It's on Aminet.