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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: CodeHunter on June 22, 2013, 06:52:17 AM

Title: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: CodeHunter on June 22, 2013, 06:52:17 AM
I also need to know if you can connect it to an older style, RGB monitor?

Many thanks,
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Matt_H on June 22, 2013, 06:57:15 AM
CD-Rs: there's no lockout mechanism, but you should burn at low speeds and use high-quality media to get them to work. Lenses of that era have trouble with CD-Rs, and the age of it at this point doesn't help either.

RGB monitor: CD32 has composite and S-Video out. If you have an SX-1 you'll also get an RGB port. SX-32 gives you a VGA port (but no scandoubling).
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: CodeHunter on June 22, 2013, 07:06:47 AM
Many thanks for your kind and prompt response. Can I connect a CD32 to my 1084S-D1 via RGB? (for best possible screen quality)
I really don't care about S-Video.
thanks.
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Matt_H on June 22, 2013, 07:10:55 AM
Not without an SX-1 - a stock CD32 doesn't have an RGB port. You could connect it to a 1084S via composite, though. With a 1084S you could also get an S-Video to Luma/Chroma cable, which would give you quality between composite and RGB.
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: CodeHunter on June 22, 2013, 07:13:51 AM
Thanks. What is a SX-1?
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Matt_H on June 22, 2013, 07:18:55 AM
This thing (http://www.bboah.com/index.php?action=artikel&cat=49&id=2171&artlang=en).
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: CodeHunter on June 22, 2013, 07:22:10 AM
Many thanks. Do you know a reliable link that I can order one?
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Astral on June 22, 2013, 07:39:17 AM
The rare TOMS floppy adaptor will give you a RGB out as well. And the much more common and easy to get Wall Street Institute floppy drive gives you an (equivalent of - pins are different) RGB out as well.
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: polyp2000 on June 22, 2013, 09:48:39 AM
Might it be a bit less expensive to get an Indivision ?
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Christian Johansson on June 22, 2013, 11:08:46 AM
I used noname CD-R's burned in high speed, without problem
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 22, 2013, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: polyp2000;738517
Might it be a bit less expensive to get an Indivision ?


+1.  Think the 4000D/CD32 model is the same.  Of course it's also out of stock.  Maybe try emailing a few vendors to try to locate one?

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1088

This will give you the easiest way to connect to a modern LCD TV or monitor.  Of course now someone else is going to comment that "the only way to view an Amiga display is on an old CRT blah blah blah"... Purists.  ;)
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on June 22, 2013, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;738511
Not without an SX-1 - a stock CD32 doesn't have an RGB port. You could connect it to a 1084S via composite, though. With a 1084S you could also get an S-Video to Luma/Chroma cable, which would give you quality between composite and RGB.

You can do it, if you have some soldering skills. There are RGB traces on the CD32 motherboard.
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: CodeHunter on June 22, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
Of course now someone else is going to comment that "the only way to view an Amiga display is on an old CRT blah blah blah"... Purists

Yes, me among them! I need to connect my CD32 to either a 1084S or my Sony PVM-20L5 which is a native 15Khz RGB monitor capable of switching between PAL / NTSC on the fly. (amazing monitors really).

what is the best way to achieve the RGB connectivity?
Would SX32 MKII do the trick?
What about this floppy adapter?
I really don't intend to make my CD32 into a full-fledged A1200 (already own one), rather I want to get RGB output for the purest form of video display on an older RGB monitor (don't care about the new VGA)
Many thanks!
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Astral on June 23, 2013, 01:28:45 AM
It's up to you to decide which way is "the best" way. I mean...you need to be able to buy the item, make it or whatever. It depends on your budget and so on to. Here are some links...

In backing what others have said...

- http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1880 - Floppy drive with RGB adaptor

- http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1883 - TOMS adaptor

- http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=276 - SX1

- http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1606 - SX32 / SX32 Pro

- http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=275 - ProModule

- Custom made hack/cable. I don't have a link for this - but think if you're half confident with electronics it'd be doable...and for only a small outlay.

I was also thinking is there such a thing as an S-Video to RGB convertor?
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: chris on June 24, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;738509
Lenses of that era have trouble with CD-Rs, and the age of it at this point doesn't help either.

More importantly, CR-RWs have different optical properties and old drives generally can't read them at all.  No such problems with CD-Rs that I'm aware of.

Note the CD³² needs a trademark file written to the disc.  I don't think this is relevant if you're writing an ISO (as it should form part of the image), but if you're trying to create your own bootable CDs then you need to add it (it's on the DevCD 2.1, and MakeCD has the options for adding the file correctly)
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: freqmax on June 24, 2013, 07:38:18 PM
I would only rely on factory CDs to work on older drives. CD-R /RW etc.. is a patchwork.
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: Matt_H on June 24, 2013, 11:49:42 PM
Quote from: chris;738730
More importantly, CR-RWs have different optical properties and old drives generally can't read them at all.  No such problems with CD-Rs that I'm aware of.


Yes, CD-RWs are in the "almost certainly not to work" category. CD-Rs I've found to be more "YMMV" - they usually work, and I've found they're more likely to do so when burned at low speeds.
Title: Re: Can CD32 playback backup CDs?
Post by: freqmax on June 25, 2013, 01:04:51 AM
Burn speed is also tricky. It usually true that a low speed is the best BUT usually burners are optimized according to the bell curve.. So a   2x-8x burner may do the best precision at 5x rather than 2x because it's the optimization center in order to handle the extremes too.