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Title: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Rabbi on June 13, 2013, 10:41:45 PM
I've got the following in my working A4000D:

1) GVP060 accelerator w/128 megs of RAM & a SCSI2 cable out the back
2) Picasso-IV (video connector unbroken) w/the Concierto, Pablo, & Paloma daughter modules
3) Deneb USB Zorro card with the 2 USB ports edge connector dangling out the back (due to the P-IV needing 2 edge connectors) & an all-in-one multicard reader/writer (including 1 USB port) installed underneath the top floppy disk
4) Vortex Golden Gate 486SLC2 with the FDC & math co-processor chips plugged into their respective sockets + 16 megs of RAM + the Monitor Master dangling in the back
5) FastATA 4000 MK-??
6) unknown PATA HDD
7) DVD writer with DVD-ROM capabilities
8) MP3@C64 card on the DENEB's clockport with its output going to the internal L+R leads on the DVD writer
9) Catweasel MK2 Anniversary Edition on the IDE line dangling out the left side.
10)ISA 10 MbS Ethernet card for use with the Vortex Golden Gate 486SLC2
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: royalcrown on June 13, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
Quote from: Rabbi;737775
I've got the following in my working A4000D:

1) GVP060 accelerator w/128 megs of RAM & a SCSI2 cable out the back
2) Picasso-IV (video connector unbroken) w/the Concierto, Pablo, & Paloma daughter modules
3) Deneb USB Zorro card with the 2 USB ports edge connector dangling out the back (due to the P-IV needing 2 edge connectors) & an all-in-one multicard reader/writer (including 1 USB port) installed underneath the top floppy disk
4) Vortex Golden Gate 486SLC2 with the FDC & math co-processor chips plugged into their respective sockets + 16 megs of RAM + the Monitor Master dangling in the back
5) FastATA 4000 MK-??
6) unknown PATA HDD
7) DVD writer with DVD-ROM capabilities
8) C64@MP3 card on the DENEB's clockport with its output going to the internal L+R leads on the DVD writer
9) Catweasel MK2 Anniversary Edition on the IDE line dangling out the left side.


How about a 2000D and a 3000D that makes 5000D, 1000 more than a 4000...
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 13, 2013, 11:02:58 PM
Probably $2000.  Or I'll give you a fiver for it.  ;)
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on June 13, 2013, 11:53:46 PM
I say $3000 maybe even more.
The 486 card is very popular, I know some have gone for $1000.
The 060 by itself could get up to $1000 also.
List the non-essential cards as separate auctions.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: magnetic on June 14, 2013, 02:12:27 AM
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;737795
I say $3000 maybe even more.
The 486 card is very popular, I know some have gone for $1000.
The 060 by itself could get up to $1000 also.
List the non-essential cards as separate auctions.


Those prices are crazy high not very  realistic.

To answer the OP its worth whatever someone is willing to pay :)
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: spirantho on June 14, 2013, 07:43:42 AM
I'd say it's worth approximately one arm and one leg.

4000 is worth about £500, 060 the same, PIV about 350,  Deneb about 250, Goldengate about 250-350, the test about 50-100 each Amiga board (PC boards are worth nothing).
Not $1000 for a Goldengate, no.... if it did happen once (I didn't see it) it was a fluke.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Bobo68 on June 14, 2013, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: spirantho;737825
I'd say it's worth approximately one arm and one leg.

4000 is worth about £500, 060 the same, PIV about 350,  Deneb about 250, Goldengate about 250-350, the test about 50-100 each Amiga board (PC boards are worth nothing).
Not $1000 for a Goldengate, no.... if it did happen once (I didn't see it) it was a fluke.


4000 is worth about 350-380 euro
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on June 14, 2013, 10:17:21 AM
Actually I was thinking of the PowerPC 604 + 060 cards that get up to $1000.
GVP 68O60 would be a maximum of $500.

Plus the desktop A4000 by itself without extras (instead of the tower A4000) will probably be worth $800.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on June 14, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: spirantho;737825
Not $1000 for a Goldengate, no.... if it did happen once (I didn't see it) it was a fluke.


Yeah, the person must have been desperate to have one. They might be rarer (or more sought after) where I am and fetch a higher price.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: spirantho on June 14, 2013, 11:33:22 AM
My own GG386 is about to become a GG486SLC/2, as soon as I can get a heatsink for it (I have the board and a brand new chip ready) - would that add about £600 to its value then? :P

The A4000D is worth more than 400 Euros, I reckon, without too much problem. I'd start at £500 myself if I were selling my one.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Bobo68 on June 14, 2013, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: spirantho;737845
The A4000D is worth more than 400 Euros, I reckon, without too much problem. I'd start at £500 myself if I were selling my one.

Do you need a proof link?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Amiga-4000-im-Topzustand-kein-Akkuschaden-collectors-edition-Buster-11-2-16MB-/140985642562

Seems you overvalue your A4000
As for me I bought last A4000 @£275
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 14, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Really it's all just speculation, anyway, until you decide to either part it out, sell it as a whole, or whatever your intentions are.  One things for sure though, these damned 20 year old machines have sure held their value!
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: spirantho on June 14, 2013, 06:35:39 PM
One sale doesn't dictate the value, though. I still reckon if you put a nice A4000 on eBay with a BIN of £500 you'd sell it before too long.

I'm not going to find out though :)
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Ami_GFX on June 14, 2013, 11:52:36 PM
A4000s with a 3640 accelerator usually go for $350-$500. The GVP 060 accelerator should be worth $400 or more on it's own. You would get more parting it out. They are all sought after cards that fetch several hundred dollars apiece.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: danbeaver on June 15, 2013, 01:21:29 AM
Yes, if it has all of what you say it has, and it works, then it is worth $3,000 or €2,300 or £2,000.  

Don't believe Magnetic, he will just give you the prices HE wants to pay himself.  If you doubt the above estimate, just put it on the market and see.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: magnetic on June 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
yeah danbeaver thats what i'm going to do u tosser. You dont even know me so dont make stupid accusations.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: danbeaver on June 15, 2013, 01:33:08 AM
Just following your previous posts:-)  I'm sorry you got upset, but $3,000 AUD or USD isn't crazy, but it is what those components go for these days.  I agree the 486 GG card is on the $400 side, but the PicassoIV with the modules are rare!  The 060 goes in the $600+ range and Deneb in $200+ arena.  The only thing he lacks is a G-Rex 4000 PCI CARD. Well, and  CSPPC.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: magnetic on June 15, 2013, 01:39:17 AM
the Deneb goes for way more than that and the GG card is still way overpriced.
The point is dont make stupid insulting statements about me. Period.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: danbeaver on June 15, 2013, 01:40:58 AM
Quote from: magnetic;737911
the Deneb goes for way more than that and the GG card is still way overpriced.
The point is dont make stupid insulting statements about me. Period.


ALRIGHT!   Period.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: agami on June 15, 2013, 02:21:43 AM
What is this, Antiques Roadshow?
You're sitting on a gold mine, OK? Whether you sell it as a whole, the Frankenstein 4000 that you've made, or whether you sell the individual parts, either way it is worth a lot, certainly more than most computers from the early '90s.

Like one of the other posters said, it's worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. And Rabbi my amigan friend, there are people out there that are prepared to pay ridiculous amounts of money for what you have. Price/MHz, Classic Amigas are almost unbeatable.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: magnetic on June 15, 2013, 02:41:19 AM
frankenstein amiga lol.. yeah all the stuff about this and that "dangling off" scared me :)
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Astral on June 15, 2013, 04:56:48 AM
Quote from: magnetic;737911
the Deneb goes for way more than that and the GG card is still way overpriced.
The point is dont make stupid insulting statements about me. Period.


Quote from: danbeaver;737912
ALRIGHT!   Period.


Wait! I'm confused. Who's got their period?
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Ami_GFX on June 16, 2013, 02:53:52 AM
If I had more money right now, I'd make you an offer on the Picasso IV. It would go nicely in my A4000T.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on June 16, 2013, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Astral;737919
Wait! I'm confused. Who's got their period?


She did!! * points at danbeaver *
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: danbeaver on June 16, 2013, 05:35:24 PM
Quote from: Ami_GFX;737985
If I had more money right now, I'd make you an offer on the Picasso IV. It would go nicely in my A4000T.

I swapped out my Picasso IV for a Mediator + Radeon 9200 in my main A4T; it is faster and with the Indy AGA MKII, I get DVI-D on my 32" monitor.  The switch is a tiny pain, but sits right next to my keyboard.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: danbeaver on June 16, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;738015
She did!! * points at danbeaver *

Not me, I'm post menopausal!
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: midway on June 16, 2013, 09:02:45 PM
Hmmm maybe its the hrt?

(hormone replacement therapy):pint:
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: nicholas on June 16, 2013, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: Bobo68;737861
Do you need a proof link?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Amiga-4000-im-Topzustand-kein-Akkuschaden-collectors-edition-Buster-11-2-16MB-/140985642562

Seems you overvalue your A4000
As for me I bought last A4000 @£275


I sold my A4000D for £200 and it was upgraded with the latest Buster etc.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: midway on June 17, 2013, 01:18:51 AM
Sakht as rafik!

Nowadays some people spend near 600 usd for a clearly broken horribly leaked 4000 on ebay... nuts i say!:(

Glad i got mine working. So many crooks out there lying !

One guy: "factory sealed a4000 which i got from an estate sale but the seller cut the seal...:laughing:

On the back of the thing there was so much corrosion i wonder whether ot was lying in the rain for a week and put in plastic foil to corrode...

Then i ask him how does the inside look?

He says: is it a good idea to open the computer seal?

I ask him for a picture showing the seal.... and all of a sudden the auction is gone

:rofl:

Then it shows up again with some more pictures, one from a workbench and a few showed the most horrible battery leak i saw, + an exploded (!) cap.... i ask him does the mouse work? He says he got rid of all monitors.... and cant test it anymore...


Sorry for the "lucky" winner of that auction


:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: ChaosLord on June 17, 2013, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: nicholas;738033
I sold my A4000D for £200 and it was upgraded with the latest Buster etc.


I sold my A4000D for $0.00
I sold my A500 for $0.00
I traded my A1000 for a fax machine

I am really surprised at how many ppl demand absolute top dollar for their ancient Amiga hardware that they aren't using.

It didn't use to matter to me what ppl sold their old Amigas for.

But ever since I became in the market for an Amiga to replace my trusty A1200 which is acting all flakey and lost 1 side of its audio channels, I can't find any replacement and if I did it would cost like $4000.00 for a machine I only paid $1000.00 for in 1999/2000.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Marmes on June 17, 2013, 02:15:18 AM
Things worth what others are willing to pay for. So if you think it's worth nothing, it worths nothing, if you think it's a priceless rare item that you desire, then you are willing to pay a lot. So asking how much is worth is a subjective thing. You come here just to say you have a top of the line amiga machine, that  is wortheless from normal users point of view wich are willing to play old games, but from a collectors point of view it might be a piece of history and an awesome thing to have. Pointless topic .
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Ami_GFX on June 17, 2013, 04:05:03 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;738018
I swapped out my Picasso IV for a Mediator + Radeon 9200 in my main A4T; it is faster and with the Indy AGA MKII, I get DVI-D on my 32" monitor.  The switch is a tiny pain, but sits right next to my keyboard.


Mine is a Toaster Flyer system and the Picasso IV with the internal scan doubler is know to work the video toaster output. No room right now for anything else with the Toaster, Flyer, DPS TBC IV, Vectorcsope, YCP-100 and flyer drives. Basically a nice museum piece of 90s video editing. If I get some time to play with it some more, I will have some fun with it. I can do  edits all in digital on my laptop but the Toaster Flyer has great effects and wipes and it is really easy to put things together.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: gertsy on June 17, 2013, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rabbi;737775
I've got the following in my working A4000D:
....




1) GVP060 accelerator w/128 megs of RAM & a SCSI2 cable out the back                 $400
2) Picasso-IV (video connector unbroken) w/the Concierto, Pablo, & Paloma daugh..  $400
3) Deneb USB Zorro card with the 2 USB ports + Multicard                                     $250
4) Vortex Golden Gate 486SLC2 with the FDC & math co + monitor master                $450
5) FastATA 4000 MK-??                                                                                   $ 20
6) unknown PATA HDD                                                                                    $ 20
7) DVD writer with DVD-ROM capabilities                                                             $ 20
8) MP3@C64 card on the DENEB's clockport with its output going to the internal...     $ 30
9) Catweasel MK2 Anniversary Edition on the IDE line dangling out the left side.         $ 70
10)ISA 10 MbS Ethernet card for use with the Vortex Golden Gate 486SLC2              $ 0
11) A4000/040                                                                                               $400

Total:                                                                                                         $2060
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on June 17, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;738073
I sold my A4000D for $0.00
I sold my A500 for $0.00
I traded my A1000 for a fax machine

I am really surprised at how many ppl demand absolute top dollar for their ancient Amiga hardware that they aren't using.

It didn't use to matter to me what ppl sold their old Amigas for.

But ever since I became in the market for an Amiga to replace my trusty A1200 which is acting all flakey and lost 1 side of its audio channels, I can't find any replacement and if I did it would cost like $4000.00 for a machine I only paid $1000.00 for in 1999/2000.

Hey! That is actually cheap 4k! You should jump for it!
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 17, 2013, 05:54:06 PM
Next on Antiques Roadshow... 20 year old computers!  :p
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 19, 2013, 10:02:44 PM
Well look at this.  Two A4000D's sold on Ebay today.  One for $643.27 + $70.09 shipping after 32 bids, sold as is, seller couldn't get display to come up (sounds like they didn't try very hard).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140998630804

And one for $455 + $100.72 shipping after 23 bids, case covered in rust and corrosion.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140998656213


Yup, plenty of people still willing to pay top-dollar, even for lower-grade devices.  Just hope these went to people who will fix them up and use them rather than someone who already has 10 of them in their "museum", LOL!  ;)
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: Ami_GFX on June 20, 2013, 05:06:15 AM
The one that went for $643 had a Cybervision 64 and a scsi connector on the expansion port that could mean an accelerator with SCSI. The terminator is 50 pin SCSI II so probably not a Cyberstorm MKIII or PPC. Or, it could be a Dataflyer internal SCSI board. For that much money, a real gamble.  The one with the corrosion was stock. Looks like it was exposed to moisture in storage so it probably doesn't smell too good and needs a lot of serious cleaning.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: midway on June 23, 2013, 11:22:44 PM
Yes! I cant believe people would buy this at the mentioned prices. You can get tested and working ones for that money...

I think it had a cs mki or mkii in it...funny he showed a lot pictures but NONE of the cpu board... could be a bad surprise for the one who paid for it
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: danbeaver on July 01, 2013, 01:32:23 AM
EBay now list German auctions if one enables the "ships to" your location; there is at least one seller trying to sell stock A4000Ds without keyboard in the $600 to $700 USD range.  AmiBay has a couple of sellers trying the same thing in €'s and £`s -- this is the site touted as the "most fair."  

I expect that there may be some A4000D's out there that have been refurbed with fully clean, Retr0brited plastics, new caps, and nice extras soon to hit the sale forums.
Title: Re: How much is my A4000D worth?
Post by: midway on July 01, 2013, 08:09:31 AM
Like mine? Although it is still white and pristine without retrobright. And still has the key :)