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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: BigBenAussie on February 03, 2004, 01:25:37 PM
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You gotta say the Apple hardware looks cool.
Why not port AmigaOS to that!!!
We all know the A1 is going to be expensive, but how does that compare to the price and features of a Mac.
Wouldn't you want your stainless steel Amiga laptop tomorrow.
And most of you guys are arguing betwen A1 and the Pegasos when a Mac PowerPC computer is out already. What about IBM? Do they make and power PC computers?
And if UAE runs under a MAC and UAE gets an OS4 port aren't we in business anyway.
Excuse me, if this seems like total nonsense.
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@BigBenAussie,
You've sold us on the idea! You are hereby deputized to create a NEW MAC-Style Uboot-replacement . . . code ALL changes, and device-drivers, so as to use the hardware . . .
negotiate (and PAY?) licencing with Apple to make this legal!
Of course, you'd FIRST have to convince Apple that this is in their interests, and get them to obtain an AmigaOne/AmigaOS4 licencing deal!
Hop to it! ;-)
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BigBenAussie wrote:
Why not port AmigaOS to that!!!
Because AInc in their infinite wisdom (http://amigapop.8bit.co.uk/intro.html#petition) decided to kill AmigaOS by letting an irrelevant computer shop called Eyetech have a say, so now you have to pretend that there's still "Amiga hardware (http://medstud.gu.se/~mair/lager/newamiga-small.jpg)". Macs would be among the obvious hardware targets for a desktop PPC OS like AmigaOS4+, but now there's a scheme in place that makes this impossible (at least in a legal and income-bringing way).
We all know the A1 is going to be expensive, but how does that compare to the price and features of a Mac.
"Poorly" would be an understatement. :(
The closest Mac counterpart to the current top of the line "AmigaOne" licensed hardware, a Teron PX motherboard w/ a 933MHz G4 (sold underclocked to 800 MHz?), would be the cheapest "budget" model, the eMac.
US$800 will get you either a licensed Teron PX motherboard with these specs (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=486), or a complete eMac computer with: 1 GHz G4, 128MB RAM, 40GB HD, Radeon 7500 32MB, 17" CRT screen, DVD/CDRW drive, Firewire, modem, mouse, keyboard, speakers, MacOS X Panther, MS Office and a heap of other software.
For the money required to build a reasonably equipped computer with the Teron PX mobo, you'll get e.g. a PowerMac G4, a low-end PowerMac G5 or a high-end iBook. Not to mention the second hand Mac market...
And most of you guys are arguing betwen A1 and the Pegasos when a Mac PowerPC computer is out already.
Yes, those arguments are so stupid and utterly pointless. I suppose that some believe that one piece of hardware is "more Amiga" than the other, or something along those anachronistic lines. It's all just hardware. A commodity to users, and a necessity for an OS. Make and sell the software (AmigaOS), and let your customers choose themselves where they prefer to buy their hardware.
What about IBM? Do they make and power PC computers?
Yes, although I doubt their stuff would be a commercially viable hardware target for Hyperion to pursue. We're talking expensive and not-aimed-at-consumers stuff like RS/6000 workstations, development/evaluation mobos and computer-on-PCI-cards.
But if AmigaOS was allowed to be installed on hardware regardless of whom you buy it from, and thus also available in a shrinkwrapped box, I suppose there would be nothing stopping third parties from writing "officially unsupported" drivers for whatever they like.
And if UAE runs under a MAC and UAE gets an OS4 port aren't we in business anyway.
UAE emulates a 68k Amiga. AmigaOS 4 will run on PPC Amigas and "AmigaOnes".
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Because AInc in their infinite wisdom
Seehund, give it a rest. You're suffering from broken record syndrome.
To give you an idea how predictable your posts have become, I didn't bother reading past the first line the first time. The only reason I went back and scan-read it was to ensure it didn't get any worse to require moderation!
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Aside from all this, I just noticed an iMac in my local paper G3@233MHz, 128MB RAM, 6GB HD, extra 17" monitor, keyboard, mouse, SCSI scanner, software, extra network card, extra gfx card for 80 pounds. It does make you wonder why people are chasing PPC cards for hundreds of pounds, when you could get a nice Mac system for peanuts.
BTW, I'm not trying to troll here, if it comes across as that.
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That is not going to happen because Apple probably refuses to pay an AmigaOS license for their hardware. No license, no OS.
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mikeymike wrote:
Seehund, give it a rest. You're suffering from broken record syndrome.
I know. :P
But unlike the aorg veterans who know what to expect and might scroll to the next post, BigBenAussie who started the thread apparently hadn't heard the record play, and the situation covered by this topic hasn't changed.
I can understand and agree with frowning at repeatedly starting new threads on the same topic, but once a thread is started, anyone is free to reply with their opinion on the topic even if it's been said before, right? Like you said, no moderation was required.
Now I'm off to read today's thread on the evils of George Bush... ;)
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Aside from all this, I just noticed an iMac in my local paper G3@233MHz, 128MB RAM, 6GB HD, extra 17" monitor, keyboard, mouse, SCSI scanner, software, extra network card, extra gfx card for 80 pounds. It does make you wonder why people are chasing PPC cards for hundreds of pounds, when you could get a nice Mac system for peanuts.
I think its because an imac doesn't run amigaos:-D OsX won't run very well on a 233mhz/128MB machine and classic macos is crap imho.
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The Mac doesn't use the Articia either - which is a huge bonus.