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Title: Amiga 2000 Demo Machine?
Post by: DiskChris on May 18, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
I have an amiga 2000 with a 68030 gvp card, 8 mb of fast ram, ks 2.0, and a fat agnus...  I'd like to use it as a demo machine, but most demos don't work.  They either freeze or don't display properly on my ntsc tv.  Is there any way I can make it more "demo friendly".  Amiga monitors are pretty expensive, and so are scan doublers so I think I'm kinda stuck with the tv and a good ol a520 for now...:laugh1:  Is there any way I can force the fat agnus to ntsc mode even when demos try to do pal? What about getting some slow ram?
Title: Re: Amiga 2000 Demo Machine?
Post by: Matt_H on May 18, 2013, 06:13:13 PM
If a demo expects PAL, it's got to be played in PAL. There's more to NTSC/PAL than just the video display. A lot of hardware-banging programs rely on the subtle timing differences between them, too. That could also explain the crashing. I think you need an Amiga monitor or a scandoubler.

Other things to consider, what era demos are you trying to run? If they're especially old, they might be getting confused by the 030 and Kickstart 2.
Title: Re: Amiga 2000 Demo Machine?
Post by: direktorn on May 19, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
A2000 is not really the perfect demo machine. I faster processor i do not think is an issue but NTSC might. The AGA chipset is a bit different when it comes to NTSC/PAL and it's for sure a better demo machine.
Title: Re: Amiga 2000 Demo Machine?
Post by: nicholas on May 19, 2013, 02:00:30 AM
You could try this if your TV can handle 50Hz mode.

http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/ntsc2pal
Title: Re: Amiga 2000 Demo Machine?
Post by: magnetic on May 19, 2013, 02:42:40 AM
@ Op

1. Most all north american tvs will NOT display PAL from your a520

2. The problem you are having with Demos is #1 they want PAL

3. Just get a 1084 monitor it shows NTSC and PAL and is the intended platform for properly viewing Scene Demos (RGB monitor)
Title: Re: Amiga 2000 Demo Machine?
Post by: RobertB on May 23, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: DiskChris;735437
I have an amiga 2000 with a 68030 gvp card, 8 mb of fast ram, ks 2.0, and a fat agnus...  I'd like to use it as a demo machine, but most demos don't work.  They either freeze or don't display properly on my ntsc tv.
The demos from Spaceballs work pretty well on a NTSC A2000 with 1 meg Chip RAM, 4 meg Fast RAM, 4 gig SCSI hard drive, OS 3.1, and no acceleration -- the machine we used at last weekend's Maker Faire.  Many Maker Faire attendees couldn't believe that a 7.14 MHz Amiga could do all of those effects and music at really good speed.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
July 27-28 Commodore Vegas Expo v9 -
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
Title: Re: Amiga 2000 Demo Machine?
Post by: Dr.Bongo on May 23, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
This is exactly how I ended up spending loads on my an A4000. Watching demos on my A2000 was great until I started seeing the modern AGA stuff on the web. Once you catch that bug there's no stopping.
Worth it though :) (Jesus Christ Motocross anybody?)