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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: royalcrown on May 13, 2013, 03:02:09 PM
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Are keyboards and mice really that rare ? Why do you guys keep breaking them if so ?
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Er, neither. I have a ton of Amiga mice since I only use optical. I have a keyboard for each Amiga, plus one I bought in need of repair.
Are you looking for these?
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Expect to pay a premium $ price for anything Amiga related, especially here in the USA. You might try posting what you're looking for over on Amibay, I had some good success doing that there. You could also try getting an adapter from AmigaKit for the mouse. Good luck! :)
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Er, neither. I have a ton of Amiga mice since I only use optical. I have a keyboard for each Amiga, plus one I bought in need of repair.
Are you looking for these?
Yes sir, I bought a box with no kb or mouse that needs possible repair also), there was nothing for sale last week, and now amiga 1000s and 2000's galore...lol with kb and mice...figures.
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Expect to pay a premium $ price for anything Amiga related, especially here in the USA. You might try posting what you're looking for over on Amibay, I had some good success doing that there. You could also try getting an adapter from AmigaKit for the mouse. Good luck! :)
Nobody was selling any basics at Amibay...I mean if I want to get some super mondo accelerator sure, mouse...nada.
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@dan & mike...what do you guys feel is a fair price for an A2000HD with no kb or mouse that was booting but won't boot now, because that is what I am receiving tomorrow via ups. I bought it because there was no nice big box 2000's at the time that were cheaper.
I paid $150 incl s&H, but it feels like too much for the unit, more like 100 s&h it should have been I think.
One of the things I spose that got me was the case condition...immaculate.
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Nobody was selling any basics at Amibay...I mean if I want to get some super mondo accelerator sure, mouse...nada.
You need to post an ad for what you're looking for under the "Want to buy" forum. Registration can be a PITA (there's a lot of threads here already talking about that) but the "want to buy" forum is probably the biggest advantage Amibay has over sites like ebay or Craigslist. Usually those darned Amiga hoarders have plenty of these items, they just don't come up for sale very often unless you ask, LOL. ;)
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I do have an ad over there... :) I think the reason there are no amiga parts/amigas is because scuzzy has all the remaining stock. I have seen his page. OMG! :)
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We have Lyra Keyboard Adapters n stock here:
http://amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=228
We also have new Amiga mouse here:
http://amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=174
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@dan & mike...what do you guys feel is a fair price for an A2000HD with no kb or mouse that was booting but won't boot now, because that is what I am receiving tomorrow via ups. I bought it because there was no nice big box 2000's at the time that were cheaper.
I paid $150 incl s&H, but it feels like too much for the unit, more like 100 s&h it should have been I think.
One of the things I spose that got me was the case condition...immaculate.
Is it an otherwise working A2000? When you say it doesn't boot, is that from the floppy, or a hard drive. If it boot from a floppy, then $150 is good, $200 should boot from an A2091 and crappy hard drive. For $250 you can buy my refurbed A2000 with A2091 + 2 MB RAM/1 GB HDD, Indivision ECS, PAMC-2000 14 MHz 68000 w/ 68881 FPU, CDROM, mouse and keyboard [3.1 ROM & WorkBench w/ disks} (you would have to add shipping, but no fees).
If you just need a mechanical Amiga mouse, I'll give you one free.
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Is it an otherwise working A2000? When you say it doesn't boot, is that from the floppy, or a hard drive. If it boot from a floppy, then $150 is good, $200 should boot from an A2091 and crappy hard drive. For $250 you can buy my refurbed A2000 with A2091 + 2 MB RAM/1 GB HDD, Indivision ECS, PAMC-2000 14 MHz 68000 w/ 68881 FPU, CDROM, mouse and keyboard [3.1 ROM & WorkBench w/ disks} (you would have to add shipping, but no fees).
If you just need a mechanical Amiga mouse, I'll give you one free.
Okay, I'll keep that A2000 in mind as soon as wife let's me spend money ;) darn anniversary...lol. Sounds like a nice unit !
Since you have ECS then you'd be able to tell me. I read that you can't use pulldown screens feature when using RTG cards. Does this limitation apply to the ECS as well.
As far as my 2000 hd the guy said it wouldn't boot and he then pulled the HDD cable and it asked for a floppy, worked once and would not do it again. IDK what the deal is until I get it and get a KB and mouse and give it a looksie.
What irks me is NOW that I bought one, there are (supposedly) working ones floating around)
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Since you have ECS then you'd be able to tell me. I read that you can't use pulldown screens feature when using RTG cards. Does this limitation apply to the ECS as well.
All of the standard Amiga chipsets (OCS, ECS, AGA) support screen dragging, including with the Indivision ECS. As for video cards... I think that would depend on the card and software used?
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All of the standard Amiga chipsets (OCS, ECS, AGA) support screen dragging, including with the Indivision ECS. As for video cards... I think that would depend on the card and software used?
Something on Wikipedia mentioned that RTG cards don't do pulldown because of how they work. Dunno if its true or not.
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It would hardly be Retargetable Graphics Board if it didn't "do" WorkBench; the OpalVision is sometimes called RTG by eBay sellers, but they lie. Even the Domino and Retina boards do menus, so WikiPedia is wrong. There were some very expensive Targa boards early on that were rare and seemed hand-built, but like the OpalVision, they were Graphic Output boards and not for RTG.
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Something on Wikipedia mentioned that RTG cards don't do pulldown because of how they work. Dunno if its true or not.
Yes thats true, you cannot drag the screen down and see other screens behind it like on native chipsets.
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Are keyboards and mice really that rare ? Why do you guys keep breaking them if so ?
Don't think people are breaking them. There are plenty out there for sale, check eBay/CL/forum for sale sections.
Also IMHO Amiga keyboards/mice are much better quality than moden versions.
If you are looking for a rare as hens teeth keyboard, you are after the red A keys or C= key keyboards. ;)
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Don't think people are breaking them. There are plenty out there for sale, check eBay/CL/forum for sale sections.
Also IMHO Amiga keyboards/mice are much better quality than moden versions.
If you are looking for a rare as hens teeth keyboard, you are after the red A keys or C= key keyboards. ;)
I actually found one of those, just can't spend 60 bucks on a KB with anniversary coming up...
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It would hardly be Retargetable Graphics Board if it didn't "do" WorkBench; the OpalVision is sometimes called RTG by eBay sellers, but they lie. Even the Domino and Retina boards do menus, so WikiPedia is wrong. There were some very expensive Targa boards early on that were rare and seemed hand-built, but like the OpalVision, they were Graphic Output boards and not for RTG.
I guess I meant screen dragging, not familiar with all the terminology yet ;)
Got my A2000HD yesterday in the mail, along with MINT manuals. Hopefully runnin' soon. Gonna open 'er cover later today.
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If you want a Cherry Keyboard (red A's) I'll sell you mine cheap; that's because it is the only keyboard that I have malfunctioning (no it does not need cleaning, the electronics are buggered up). So it is rare on two points: hard to find and some keys don't work despite being cleaned. :(
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I wasn't looking for it, just saw it. Hang onto it, when I get familiar with this hardware and I know enough, I'll try to fix it. went for my AASET way back and want to get into repair to help ppl out.
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I guess I meant screen dragging, not familiar with all the terminology yet ;)
Got my A2000HD yesterday in the mail, along with MINT manuals. Hopefully runnin' soon. Gonna open 'er cover later today.
Oh, screen dragging! Only a few early boards like the Retina won't do that. The software was a bit dodgy. I think anything supported by CGX or P96 will do screen dragging.
I now personally believe that those FPGA based devices are essentially RTG "boards" too -- Indivision AGA MKII and the "coming to a supermarket near you," ScanJuggler. While they don't use classic GPU's, they function to do thing bigger, better and faster than their native Amiga counterparts. When you a program an FPGA to become a CPU and move colors and form images, I think one IS Retargeting native Graphics at higher resolutions and colors just like the Big Boys.
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I wasn't looking for it, just saw it. Hang onto it, when I get familiar with this hardware and I know enough, I'll try to fix it. went for my AASET way back and want to get into repair to help ppl out.
Dude, Retro Computing is all about repair! It is about soldering, metal working, hot glue guns, programming EPROM's, writing scripts, screwing with CLI commands to patch software, Retr0Briting plastics, software and manual searches (then installation, archive formation, backup, and resurrection), and dern'd near everything except wood working (yet). Add to that refurbishing were you have to locate parts made so long ago that Dinosaurs roamed the earth at the time (or was that a IBM model 5150?).
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I may aquire some things this summer like a reweork station and Hakko 808 for the purpose of keeping these things alive. I'll have to re learn what I forgot since '93. Still have my books though on digital and DC and AC circuits.
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Hen's teeth... I thought for sure this was going to be about ZIP ram.
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Nope, Zip RAM, blood loss, bandages covering your hands, D800 diode concerns, how to not plug in the wrong cable to two identical ports next to each other; these are all part of the A3000 question: "How can Commodore design a great looking computer that you immediately hate on e the cover is removed?" And who puts a frigging push rod in a case as a way to turn on a PSU?
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(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z469/drinkoldcoke/misc%20crap/ibm55.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/drinkoldcoke/media/misc%20crap/ibm55.jpg.html)
These dudes ? Do I get a sticker ?
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And who puts a frigging push rod in a case as a way to turn on a PSU?
I've seen this on Xerox colour laser printers/photocopiers.
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Same concept as locks on car doors, old carburetor linkages, and many different types of printers, Dell, HP, etc., all use mechanical pushrods in various applications. So, not as uncommon as you might think! ;-)
PS - major nostalgia at the picture of that old IBM. Thanks for posting it! :)
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Same concept as locks on car doors, old carburetor linkages, and many different types of printers, Dell, HP, etc., all use mechanical pushrods in various applications. So, not as uncommon as you might think! ;-)
PS - major nostalgia at the picture of that old IBM. Thanks for posting it! :)
The clank of the big switch as it toggles is pretty darn satisfying compared to these wimpy push buttons. You know damn well that thing was ON.
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Royalcrown
AVOID AMIBAY WHATEVER YOU DO. The guys who run this site are fascists.
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Royalcrown
AVOID AMIBAY WHATEVER YOU DO. The guys who run this site are fascists.
They seem to be sticklers for protocol, I'll give ya that :)
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(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z469/drinkoldcoke/misc%20crap/ibm55.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/drinkoldcoke/media/misc%20crap/ibm55.jpg.html)
These dudes ? Do I get a sticker ?
Ug! A PS/2; notable for putting a 386Sx with a 16-bit data path on a 32-bit bus (Microchannel). Also known as changing the spin from Personal Computer (1 beige box) to a Personal System (beige box, beige printer and beige world); classic IBM. How many IBM salesmen does it take to change a lightbulb? Just one; he simply changes the definition of darkness, then goes on site to upgrade the customer.
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I don't mind the looks so much as trying to buy a MCA card from them in the 90's. "Which arm shall we take sir ?" My buddy sold his and bought an EISA tower because of that fact.
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Royalcrown
AVOID AMIBAY WHATEVER YOU DO. The guys who run this site are fascists.
You are confusing a political paradigm from the mid-twentieth century with a bunch of coprophagic, Supratentorially synaptopenic narcissists. :)
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You are confusing a political paradigm from the mid-twentieth century with a bunch of coprophagic, Supratentorially synaptopenic narcissists. :)
Remind me to have google handy when you are insulting me please...