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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: SACC-guy on April 26, 2013, 01:52:26 AM
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Hey all:
I was just talked into joining Amibay to possible buy an item.
Well... I tried to register and it keeps telling me it sending a e-mail with some code.
Never came, so I left the webmaster two notes explaining and asking for help.
So far, NOTHING!
Did this happen to anyone else?
Is amibay closed?
M
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I'd check your spam trap to see if it got flagged as a false positive. Otherwise, PM me with the details of the account you set up and I'll forward it to one of the admins.
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If I were you I would avoid Amibay at all costs. They are not in the amiga spirit and you better be prepared for whatever you buy on there they will dictate to you what you can and cant do with it, to who and if you sell it , and where u sell it. Its incredible. Incredibly ridiculous.
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If I were you I would avoid Amibay at all costs. They are not in the amiga spirit and you better be prepared for whatever you buy on there they will dictate to you what you can and cant do with it, to who and if you sell it , and where u sell it. Its incredible. Incredibly ridiculous.
I didn't really need to use amibay to date, so I didn't.
But a fellow SACC member said I might be able to find some amiga items I wanted.
When I tried to sign up, I read the rules, lots of rules...
But I just buy the once in a while item.
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Don't mind magnetic, he's just butthurt on account of having been banned (several times, IIRC.) Amibay's a great place as long as you can be assed to read and respect the rules.
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I did buy and sell a bunch of stuff on amibay, it's not that bad. Yes there are some rules, but it's not that complicated. I really like the fact that there's no fee to post things you want to sell. Anyway, i would agree with commodorejohn, the email is probably in the spam folder.
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Well guys,
I checked my spam folder and filters...nothing there.
But if I have this much trouble just signing up...
It's making me spider senses tingle (grin)
oh well, I can keep using craigslist, ebay and mostly SACC (which is where I get my best stuff and help)
sometimes on amigadot org too
thx
M
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edit: let's avoid childish namecalling, shall we?
-- eliyahu
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havent had any trouble with amibay, I bought a few things there. and I would prefer it over ebay at any time.
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at ammojammo
What the hell does that mean?
Bit inappropriate. Or maybe it's an acronym? But they are certainly anal. IMO.
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I have nothing against them, merely in the mindset I experienced there. But years ago when I was getting back into the hobby, I signed up on Amibay to try and procure some legacy hardware. Was fine with the rules, or I wouldn't have signed up fully.
I found the community to be dicks, quite frankly. I'd been out of the hobby since the 1990's, and I had the audacity to ask a question (an extremely well written and polite one) in one thread and got berated privately to the point where it was at "go away n00b, we dun want you!" levels.
Went to eBay, found a PPC/040 powered A1200 for $300. Been back to Amibay once since and see no change in the elitist bull**** attitudes some people there had when I was first there 5 years ago.
Not much on the "Old Boys Clubs" that treat newcomers like ****, and I got that feeling from Amibay and I am not alone.
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If I were you I would avoid Amibay at all costs. They are not in the amiga spirit and you better be prepared for whatever you buy on there they will dictate to you what you can and cant do with it, to who and if you sell it , and where u sell it. Its incredible. Incredibly ridiculous.
There rules are rubbish, no one follows them anyways and there are mostley traiders there..
Signing up for amiga.org was not easy either, the signup process is worse than getting a mortgage.. after registration it took about a week to be verified.
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some folks love amibay. some folks don't. but there is absolutely no need for any personal attacks or name-calling. this isn't a grade school playground, so let's remember to keep it civil and back up our opinions with facts. thanks!
-- eliyahu
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Amibay is terrific. My experience buying has been nothing short of brilliant, fair and honest.
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Amibay is terrific. My experience buying has been nothing short of brilliant, fair and honest.
Same here. I hope they keep it like that.
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some folks love amibay. some folks don't. but there is absolutely no need for any personal attacks or name-calling. this isn't a grade school playground, so let's remember to keep it civil and back up our opinions with facts. thanks!
-- eliyahu
Anal (Short for Anally retentive) : a term generally describing a person overly uptight or distressed over ordinarily minor problems.
Not sure who you were referring to in regard to name calling or personal attacks I was referring to the general Amibay entity. An "opinion" is a subjective position based on an emotive interpretation of fact. You can't really back an opinion with objective fact as it's based on a personal subjective interpretation, but in my case just go have a read the amibay rules. :) (Overly uptight I feel)
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@gertsy
don't worry. i wasn't referring to you. :)
-- eliyahu
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I joined Amibay and it is a completely normal forum. Certainly less insane t than Amiga.org.
If u want to go there and buy cheap items from nice ppl and then resell them at a huge profit on ebay then u will get BANNED like Magnetic did.
Do not go there to rape kind ppl. That is not what Amibay is for. It is for real ppl to buy real items for to be used, not to have the price jacked up and resold elsewhere.
In my experience so far, Amibay is 3x as good as Amiga.org and 20x better than ebay.
I think u will like Amibay. But if you don't want to follow the rules and respect the society then don't bother joining.
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The rules are a huge ham-fisted PITA. I was extremely leery of that site after reading Magnetic's and other stories like his. However I eventually joined when I couldn't find the parts I needed for my A500 build anywhere else, went through their mind-boggingly complex registration process where it seemed like I had to agree to a new set of terms every time I visited the site... but was rewarded by meeting a fantastic seller who actually had everything I was looking for and was willing to cut a deal that we both were happy with. :) Give it a shot, IMHO, and good luck!
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another thumbs up for amibay!
Their rules may seem unusual at first, but I find they are very well thought of, making it a great place to trade, very civilized.
Also I find that amibay is full of other interesting content whose quality is hard to match nowadays in other amiga sites - Their Amioracle section is full of eager, knowledgeable people and I've learnt a lot just browsing it. Their Photos section is also very keenly updated (unlike unfortunately a.org's) - I've been meaning to contribute to but never get the time!
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If you do join amibay you need to be prepared for admins mood, if you ever give a response to their womit, be prepared to be banned.
Besides, I don't think that amibay actually follow the law, where you know, a buyer has the right to change his or hers mind.
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Besides, I don't think that amibay actually follow the law, where you know, a buyer has the right to change his or hers mind.
"The law?" Really..
The worst they can do is ban someone. Even if you think they banned someone for totally wrong reasons, it's not really a legal issue... :D
As has been said, some people like them, some don't.
I like Amibay..
Haven't been there in a bit, but that's more to protect my pocketbook.. ;-)
desiv
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to all; Thanks for the info...
I finally made it to amibay,
But, I will stay aware of the rules and different systems that exist in the great amiga.
I am only an once in a while buyer, I've only sold amiga stuff to fellow SACC folks face to face. I like that better. The SACC folks have been part on my amiga world for years.
thanks,
M
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If you like internet freedom, or if you like ideas of freedom in general stay the hell away from the power obsessed, boys club of mods on Amibay. Be prepared for them to internet stalk you, invade your privacy, and attempt to dictate what you do, who you do it with and when and where.
Like good ole times in Berlin.
And no,i'm not being funny this is how they are. VERY ANTI AMIGA. It has the FRONT of being real amiga but its mainly a bunch of HOARDERS trading hw with eachother.
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If you like internet freedom, or if you like ideas of freedom in general stay the hell away from the power obsessed, boys club of mods on Amibay. Be prepared for them to internet stalk you, invade your privacy, and attempt to dictate what you do, who you do it with and when and where.
Like good ole times in Berlin.
And no,i'm not being funny this is how they are. VERY ANTI AMIGA. It has the FRONT of being real amiga but its mainly a bunch of HOARDERS trading hw with eachother.
"Also, they eat babies! Hundreds of innocent babies sacrificed for the sick pleasure of these monsters! What? You're still joining? Well, well, did you know Amibay killed the last unicorn in the world? It's true! Really!"
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If you like internet freedom, or if you like ideas of freedom in general stay the hell away from the power obsessed, boys club of mods on Amibay. Be prepared for them to internet stalk you, invade your privacy, and attempt to dictate what you do, who you do it with and when and where.
Like good ole times in Berlin.
And no,i'm not being funny this is how they are. VERY ANTI AMIGA. It has the FRONT of being real amiga but its mainly a bunch of HOARDERS trading hw with eachother.
I've been a member of a simular forum for a specific Car(Auto) brand. It was run by a car club and was very autocratic. But sign-up was nowhere near as laborious.
But I can understand why you want to be sure of a person's identification on the internet. Especially when money is changing hands and there are so may shonks out there in the Amiga computer arena.(area). But IMO once you are in and verified there's no need for it to translate to general operations. Certainly not Berlin of old though. Because I'm pretty sure death is an option not exercised by Amibay.
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If you like internet freedom, or if you like ideas of freedom in general stay the hell away from the power obsessed, boys club of mods on Amibay. Be prepared for them to internet stalk you, invade your privacy, and attempt to dictate what you do, who you do it with and when and where.
Like good ole times in Berlin.
And no,i'm not being funny this is how they are. VERY ANTI AMIGA. It has the FRONT of being real amiga but its mainly a bunch of HOARDERS trading hw with eachother.
As another person who has been banned here before (along with Magnetic and Franko) I tend to agree with Mag on this.
It takes more to offend an A.org moderator (although it can be pretty easily done).
And Amibay may use an Amiga oriented tag, but they trade anything computer related.
I'd rather just use Ebay.
At least there I get buyer protection.
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If you like internet freedom, or if you like ideas of freedom in general stay the hell away from the power obsessed, boys club of mods on Amibay. Be prepared for them to internet stalk you, invade your privacy, and attempt to dictate what you do, who you do it with and when and where.
Like good ole times in Berlin.
And no,i'm not being funny this is how they are. VERY ANTI AMIGA. It has the FRONT of being real amiga but its mainly a bunch of HOARDERS trading hw with eachother.
I've been a member of a simular forum for a specific Car(Auto) brand. It was run by a car club and was very autocratic. But sign-up was nowhere near as laborious.
I can understand why you want to be sure of a person's identification on the internet. Especially when money is changing hands and there are so may shonks out there in the Amiga computer arena.(area). But IMO once you are in and verified there's no need for it to translate to general operations. Certainly not Berlin of old though. Because I'm pretty sure death is an option not exercised by Amibay.
Ignore Commodorejohn, everyone knows the last Unicorn in the world was killed by Margaret Thatcher.
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Gertsy
Nobody is talking about anyone using another name or "identification" what are you talking about? I'm talking about the nazi like tactics and privacy invasion that is POLICY and DAILY ROUTINE for the people that run this silly site.
They most not have any authority in their real life because they sure turn into Khadaffis and Stalins on that site!
Note: I've been an amigan since 1988, I believe in the community and support almost all amiga websites NOT THIS ONE AMIBAY IS NOT THE SPIRIT OF AMIGA. ITS THE SPIRIT OF THE AMIGA HOARDER
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Exactly..
Just like Nazi Khadaffi Stalins...
See, no possibility of hyperbole there....
uh huh... yep... totally unbiased realism.... :rolleyes:
desiv
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ITS THE SPIRIT OF THE AMIGA HOARDER
+1 The intent to escalate the prices of old hardware is obscenely obvious (but then you guys gloat about this too).
One day FPGAs are going to bite you in the ass with this one.
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Gertsy
Nobody is talking about anyone using another name or "identification" what are you talking about? I'm talking about the nazi like tactics and privacy invasion that is POLICY and DAILY ROUTINE for the people that run this silly site.
If you can't understand the flow of a thread beyond your own posts I'm not going to explain it for you, or explain myself. Putting it simply, my response to your post was in relation to the "boys club" comment only. I'm guess you block people which results in the non contextual experience in a thread, the alternative that springs to mind is possible as well I guess, either way your problem not mine.
But separately, Nazi has connotations beyond your ego magnetic, the link is tenuous at least if not consistent with your comprehension.
I see desiv's sarcasm and raise you a straight.
The value of something is in it's demand. It's not based on purchasers opinion.
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@SACC-guy
Good to see you on AmiBay, glad we have sorted out that account issue and I am pleased to see my first post going to help out a fellow member =)
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I have to admit,its the first I have read that my efforts are anti-Amigan, although I am sure my wife had called me worse ;)
Oh well I shall rest my modest efforts on those thousands of AmiBayers that use, enjoy and make AmiBay what it is. I know the rules and guidelines are perhaps too much for some, but remember these rules are made by all the staff - whom are also members - there is over 20 staff members helping to develop AmiBay for the better of its users, we then have another process that see the sites 20 odd VIP's rattify these rules and guidelines as well.
While we are predominately a classifieds trading site - a truly amazing community has grown from, I am quite humbled to be a small part of it.
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desiv you misunderstood me, I am not saying that you can't bann people. I am saying, that there are some rules that protect consumers, and amibay does not seem to follow them.
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desiv you misunderstood me, I am not saying that you can't bann people. I am saying, that there are some rules that protect consumers, and amibay does not seem to follow them.
If there is anyway we could protect our members more I am all for it, as well as all ears =)
you can PM me if you prefer =)
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One day FPGAs are going to bite you in the ass with this one.
+1
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If you like internet freedom, or if you like ideas of freedom in general stay the hell away from the power obsessed, boys club of mods on Amibay. Be prepared for them to internet stalk you, invade your privacy, and attempt to dictate what you do, who you do it with and when and where.
Like good ole times in Berlin.
And no,i'm not being funny this is how they are. VERY ANTI AMIGA. It has the FRONT of being real amiga but its mainly a bunch of HOARDERS trading hw with eachother.
Amibay wasn't established to promote internet freedom. New members agree to follow a set of rules which limit internet freedom in order to support the Amibay community of traders, hackers and knowledge seekers.
If you were banned for breaking those rules then you should blame the person most responsible... yourself!
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I just tried to sign up for amibay.com
I completed the first form and received an registration email, clicked the link in the mail and then completed the second form to which I received the message:
Registration denied, this forum runs an active policy of not allowing spammers. Please contact us via the "Contact Us" page link if you believe this is in error
So I click "Contact us" and get told:
You must first accept the Forum Rules to be able to send e-mails!
What a complete joke of a site!
If it takes more than a couple of clicks and a registration form to join a forum it's not worth joining. I'll stick to selling on ebay!
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@SACC-guy
Good to see you on AmiBay, glad we have sorted out that account issue and I am pleased to see my first post going to help out a fellow member =)
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I have to admit,its the first I have read that my efforts are anti-Amigan, although I am sure my wife had called me worse ;)
Oh well I shall rest my modest efforts on those thousands of AmiBayers that use, enjoy and make AmiBay what it is. I know the rules and guidelines are perhaps too much for some, but remember these rules are made by all the staff - whom are also members - there is over 20 staff members helping to develop AmiBay for the better of its users, we then have another process that see the sites 20 odd VIP's rattify these rules and guidelines as well.
While we are predominately a classifieds trading site - a truly amazing community has grown from, I am quite humbled to be a small part of it.
@Zetro
Yep! All good. I learning my way around the site. Gain knowledge.
One item, what does it mean "paypay gift or pay fee"
I thought amibay didn't have fees?
At this time I don't plan on selling so I have to figure out how to buy.
M
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One item, what does it mean "paypay gift or pay fee"
Paypal charges fees to receive money.
When buying something outside of ebay most sellers request that the buyer pays the fee by selecting the "Gift" option on the paypal "send payment" page.
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One item, what does it mean "paypay gift or pay fee"
I thought amibay didn't have fees?
Yeah, as mentioned, it's Paypal fees, not Amibay fees...
Just my preference (there are several large threads on Amibay about this), I always prefer to not use paypal gift and pay the fees.
Yes, you can save a few bucks (usually it is just a few bucks), but you lose any/all paypal backing if you use paypal gift.
Worth it to me to do that....
My personal recommendation, don't ever use paypal gift to purchase something from someone you don't actually know. No matter how safe the site feels.
Have fun...
desiv
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Just my preference (there are several large threads on Amibay about this), I always prefer to not use paypal gift and pay the fees.
Yes, you can save a few bucks (usually it is just a few bucks), but you lose any/all paypal backing if you use paypal gift.
I got burned like that, damn scammer.
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Without Amibay I wouldn't have been able to purchase most of the Amiga gear I have. I also found out about hardware projects that only seem to be advertised there.
The mods are also very fair and helpful, so very puzzled by the negative remarks.
To be honest one get's tired of the same old waste of time argumentative school yard threads as soon as the word Amibay is mentioned.
None of which helps the Op with their issue.
I'm sure the email is being sent, most likely it's in a spam folder or something, if not one of the mod's there usually help out.
Of course as with anything Amiga it's a hobby site so to expect an answer straight away is not the way to go.
They answer you :-)
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I have been a member there for a while and have had no issues at all with them, in fact if it wasn't for amibay i would have alot of my gear. All the sellers i have used where great and very helpful. and as for the problem of joining it wasn't that hard a few extra clicks is worth it.
Like it has been said before the people that mostly got banned were reselling the items they got very cheap elsewhere for much higher prices so they deserved what they got. Funny that said people keep trying to get back in.... wonder why??
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If you were banned for breaking those rules then you should blame the person most responsible... yourself!
I was banned for reselling an 030 cpu card so I could get the 060 i have now. I sold the card to someone else, who posted it on ebay. The mods at Amibay internet stalked both me and my friend in their "investigation" (that still makes me laugh) and I got banned FOREVER. First offense, never had a problem before, a few sucessful trades under my belt with feedback (which i still have the items)
(And I wont even address how pissed off my friend was with the invasion of privacy and these idiot mods netstalking her)
So you are telling me that this is just and makes sense? And to another amiga community member? You are DELUDED.
Oh and almost forgot I GOT BANNED FROM EAB FOR POSTING MAYBE 2 POSTS ANTI AMIBAY so ONCE AGAIN BANNED FOR LIFE FIRST OFFENSE. So this goes to show you how ridiculous and power hungry these idiots are.
ILL STATE IT AGAIN VERY ANTI AMIGA SPIRIT
Just a bunch of HOARDERS trading with eachother.
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@magnetic
There is no need for personal attacks against your fellow members here, I am sorry that you feel so aggrieved at being banned from an unrelated site - but there is no need to claim that because a member here has a different point of view that they are delusional - thats kinda poor form to say the least.
I was saddened but not surprised that you were also banned from EAB - your actions were in contrary to their rules - you were warned several times - sadly your angst got the better of you and you were banned as a result of ignoring their rules and a direct request from their staff to "pack it in"
I am sure that if you approach EAB with a review to re-instating your account I am sure that they would listen and consider it - I know the moderators there are fair in their dealings with members. Some times anger gets the best of us and I am sure that they understand that.
In regards to your wild assertions of internet stalking - I have to admit it does make me chuckle, as nothing of the sort had taken place - after all "your friend" used - copied verbatim - the AmiBay advert of the item you had received about 3 days prior - quite interesting when you claim "your friend" knew nothing about AmiBay.
Its also interesting that you "flipped it" to a friend whom also "flipped it" immediately on eBay - these are your own statements. I wonder if you do read your text before you click "post quick reply"?
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ok. this has gone far enough. if members have an issue with another site, please take it up with that site's management.
thread is now locked.
-- eliyahu