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Title: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 11, 2013, 09:29:15 AM
What? No? Can't be? Yes!!!

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=615679&postcount=565
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: NovaCoder on April 11, 2013, 10:02:40 AM
Yep at last, personally I'm waiting for the next version which should have a test changes button
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: JohnFante on April 11, 2013, 10:22:46 AM
I have used it. And it grealy improved my Indivision. Before the picture was to one side of the monitor. After applying the standard settings it shows sharp and clearly in the middle. But as NovaCoder writes it is still not the most intuitive/userfriendly tool :-)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 11, 2013, 10:39:17 AM
Anyone worked out how to remove the scanlines when playing WHDLoad games?

Prefer the sharper look :-(

Other than that workbench fills the entire monitor now and yes things are centered!!
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 11, 2013, 10:41:56 AM
Also noticed that if I use a VGA adapter output comes out blue no matter what settings I use.

Not too worried as I have been using DVI on my monitor.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: AAACHIPSET on April 11, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: Lurch;731779
What? No? Can't be? Yes!!!

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=615679&postcount=565
my  workbench is fine ..only  games in whd  end up too far to the right sometimes  ..this is in english ?? ..an i cant stuff up my indivison  playing with it i hope..be nice to get a sharper screen  ..
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: cicero790 on April 11, 2013, 07:16:39 PM
@Lurch
Take only ”lines” instead of lines 25%,50% or 75%. That worked here. I also applied this on both pal and ntsc. For pal interlaced i turned lines off.


@AAACHIPSET
I think I solved that by going into all the screen modes in pal and ntsc  and then there, trim the overscan an save.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on April 11, 2013, 07:56:36 PM
Dumb question but does this work with Indivision ECS?  Not that I have any problems with mine, or the current tool (think it's version 0.90 or something that I've got), just always like having more settings to play around with, LOL.  ;)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 11, 2013, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: cicero790;731811
@Lurch
Take only ”lines” instead of lines 25%,50% or 75%. That worked here. I also applied this on both pal and ntsc. For pal interlaced i turned lines off.


Will give that a go cicero :-)

@ Oldsmobile_Mike - No just for the indi mk2 :-)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 11, 2013, 10:22:39 PM
Meh can't get the scanlines to go away LOL. Not the easiest to use tool, almost thought I was toast when I didn't get a picture coming up.

First rule of thumb don't panic when it comes to Amiga gear. But have it all back up again, WB looks fantastic, but still have scanlines.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: J-Golden on April 11, 2013, 10:30:26 PM
Neat!  I just rearranged the Mancave and got the A4000T up and running with this beauty in it.

Now to get the innerwebz working in it so I can download the tool...
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 11, 2013, 11:05:13 PM
Best benefit is having the entire monitor with no black bars in Workbench. It's also fixed my corrupt screen that I seem to get when using ibrowse for long periods of time.

Not sure why it only does it with ibrowse, but the problem is now gone :-)

Games look great, only downside is the scanlines. I prefer it without on some games, will have another play when I get time, but coming together nicely.

Thanks Jen's look forward to more updates :-)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 12, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;731817
Dumb question but does this work with Indivision ECS?  Not that I have any problems with mine, or the current tool (think it's version 0.90 or something that I've got), just always like having more settings to play around with, LOL.  ;)


I second this question.  :)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 12, 2013, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;731851
I second this question.  :)


No, doesn't work with the Indi ECS :-)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 12, 2013, 01:01:23 AM
Quote from: Lurch;731852
No, doesn't work with the Indi ECS :-)


Durn!  Ah well, we'll get some love eventually.  It does work mostly fine right now, its just a little goofy on certain resolutions.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 12, 2013, 03:49:57 AM
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;731853
Durn!  Ah well, we'll get some love eventually.  It does work mostly fine right now, its just a little goofy on certain resolutions.


Yeah but then my A500 can't go to high it's a little under powered so haven't had that issue. I do like being able to play Doom with the indi ecs. I'm only hoping that now we have some movement on the AGA MK2 that the same drivers will be made available for it.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: polyp2000 on April 12, 2013, 10:22:56 AM
Great stuff ! Roll on Graffitti mode!
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 12, 2013, 12:32:08 PM
Looks like Im stuck with the scanlines, remove them and the picture gets squashed LOL.

Nevermind, its only a couple of games that look bad, gave up playing around with the config tool.

Was getting no where.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 12, 2013, 10:40:24 PM
Okay so if you switch to 25% lines apply, then switch back to lines apply it removes the scanlines.

Got there in the end :-)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: cicero790 on April 13, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
I didn't get it at first. How could lines mean no lines. Jens will probably rename lines to double height and rename the other to scanlines 25% an so on. I cant believe I actually was a bit helpful here. :)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 13, 2013, 09:38:04 AM
@cicero790 - Thanks for the tip was a lot of help.

A very confusing tool, As no lines gives you lines and vice versa ;-)

I'm hoping he does change the wording.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: arttu80 on April 17, 2013, 07:32:49 PM
This is really great we finally have this config tool for Indi MK2, but I have one slight problem. My configuration is A1200 / 030 / MK2 / WB3.1 + SCALOS 1.2d. I'm having trouble to get HighGFX modes appear on DisplayMode pefs tool. Because of that, I can't get this thing show proper 1024x728 mode.  How can I add this mode to prefs program?

I have other A1200 setup with quite same HW/SW , except Indi MK1 and here is no problem. I'm using HighGFX Super -Hi Res Laced setup on 17" ViewSonic monitor.

I would like to have the very same result with MK2, so help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 17, 2013, 07:47:01 PM
I'm running HighGFX 1024x768, did nothing special. Installed the indi config tool and then ran it from prefs and the option was listed.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: arttu80 on April 17, 2013, 08:03:15 PM
Quote from: Lurch;732234
I'm running HighGFX 1024x768, did nothing special. Installed the indi config tool and then ran it from prefs and the option was listed.


Ok maybe I didn't install it properly at all. I just copied and executed commands on shell prompt from install script file one line at a time. I missed something?
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: NovaCoder on April 17, 2013, 09:16:53 PM
New version out now, and this time it has a test mode button :)


Indy Mrk2 Config (http://icomp.de/products/AGAmk2/MK2_CFG_V10.LHA)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 18, 2013, 07:26:41 AM
Anything else added?
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 18, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
So it reflashs it again and my screen is now a little bit off to the right. Should have stuck with the previous tool.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 19, 2013, 06:20:10 AM
Quote from: arttu80;732235
Ok maybe I didn't install it properly at all. I just copied and executed commands on shell prompt from install script file one line at a time. I missed something?


Not sure? Extracted the file to a folder and then ran the install script from shell and it did everything for me.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: NovaCoder on April 19, 2013, 06:52:10 AM
I didn't get that far with the new config tool either, I managed to get some screen modes looking much better but it also introduced some nasty graphical glitches for other screen modes.


I'll try and fiddle a bit more with the config tool to fix up these new glitches, otherwise I might just throw it in the bin and find an old 10" 15hz CRT instead.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 19, 2013, 07:47:29 AM
Quote from: NovaCoder;732337
I didn't get that far with the new config tool either, I managed to get some screen modes looking much better but it also introduced some nasty graphical glitches for other screen modes.


I'll try and fiddle a bit more with the config tool to fix up these new glitches, otherwise I might just throw it in the bin and find an old 10" 15hz CRT instead.


Prefer the previous version it was bang on. Plus not sure about the test option as it reflashed the indi when I clicked test not what I was expecting.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on April 23, 2013, 08:04:40 AM
After playing around with the indi tool it's now looking great. No graphic corruption, and it's very crisp.

Happy customer now :-)
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: adrian82 on May 01, 2013, 10:35:06 AM
I haven't tried the tool yet, but I am wondering whether I can use it to fix my Indivision AGA Mk2 when running Linux.

Whenever I boot into Linux, the Indivision generates an output signal over VGA that my monitor cannot deal with.

Did anyone have similar problems and where able to solve them?

Adrian
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on May 02, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
Could adjust the resolution you are trying to do with the config tool.

At the moment I'm getting that with Alien Bash 2 as it uses a higher res, still can't get it to display right.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: J-Golden on May 02, 2013, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: adrian82;733418
I haven't tried the tool yet, but I am wondering whether I can use it to fix my Indivision AGA Mk2 when running Linux.

Whenever I boot into Linux, the Indivision generates an output signal over VGA that my monitor cannot deal with.

Did anyone have similar problems and where able to solve them?

Adrian


I think your best bet would be to either:

a) boot up in Workbench and set the resolution to the same parameters as you're Linux setup and then use the config tool.

or

b) Use native output on Linux and adjust the resolution to one of the comparable modes of the Indivision.

Take this with a grain of salt because I haven't been able to use it yet on my setup yet...
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: Lurch on May 11, 2013, 08:30:16 AM
Argh just when I thought I was winning can't get alien bash 2 or disposable hero working. Was working :-(

When it goes to change resolution on both games the monitor goes into power saving mode, even if I reset it still nothing on the monitor have to turn the Amiga completely off.

The battle continues.
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: adrian82 on May 28, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
Quote from: J-Golden;733518
I think your best bet would be to either:
a) boot up in Workbench and set the resolution to the same parameters as you're Linux setup and then use the config tool.

The problem is that I currently don't know what mode is generated once the Linux kernel boots. Mind, it's currently text-mode only, so I actually don't understand why it would end up with a resolution the monitor can't deal with.

Quote
b) Use native output on Linux and adjust the resolution to one of the comparable modes of the Indivision.

Well, I have to do some more testing.

I tried version 1.0 of the configuration tool today and I am still struggling to get proper modes. I have seen, however, that there is a new version 1.1 available which provides some sane default modes which I will test.

I might also try to get into touch with the guys from Individual Computers. It would be nice to get the Indivision prorperly working both with AmigaOS and Linux since we're working to revive the m68k Linux port :).

Update:

While my screenmodes for AmigaOS 3.9 are a bit messed up now, I can actually use the Linux console at 800x600/60 Hz. Looks I like I need to dig further into the tool and how to use it.

Adrian
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: adrian82 on May 29, 2013, 02:57:34 AM
Quote from: Lurch;731779
What? No? Can't be? Yes!!!

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=615679&postcount=565


Links to all available versions:

v1.0:

http://icomp.de/products/AGAmk2/MK2_CFG_V10.LHA

v1.1:

http://icomp.de/products/AGAmk2/MK2_CFG_V11.lha

v1.2:

http://wiki.icomp.de/w/images/b/b3/IvAGAMK2_config_V1.2.lha

Version 1.2 is a beta version and includes the utility only, the Core files v2.6 from the v1.1 archive are required as well. Just unpack v1.1 first, then overwrite with the files from the v1.2 archive.

I am currently testing the configuration utility, trying to understand how screen modes work and how to generate proper ones that will deliver the best results. Will post results later.

Adrian
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: kronuz on June 11, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
I can only get this far :/

But otherwise, the picture is perfect. Very crisp!
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: klx300r on June 11, 2013, 02:40:07 PM
I just got my new Indivision AGA MK2cr and so far it's running everything (WB, apps, games-but haven't set up my WHDLoad folder yet) great straight out of the box so do i need to mess with this config tool at all?
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: polyp2000 on June 11, 2013, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: kronuz;737525
I can only get this far :/

But otherwise, the picture is perfect. Very crisp!


doesnt look particularly crisp to me ....
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: J-Golden on June 11, 2013, 04:14:07 PM
Right now the tool is still being worked on so I'd hold off playing around unless you really need to.  Once it is finished and you have a much more stable program, then I'd start experimenting...
Title: Re: Indivision MK2 Beta config tool
Post by: som99 on June 11, 2013, 04:44:52 PM
Beside some screen modes not working in WB I got it up and running perfect now thankts to the config tools (got a little panic at first when all went crazy but thankfully got the right end of things), thank you :)