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Title: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Vlabguy1 on April 05, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310640574635?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Um WOW... that's all I have to say.

Rich
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: bbond007 on April 05, 2013, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;731391
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310640574635?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Um WOW... that's all I have to say.

Rich


$20 for shipping seems very reasonable...
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Lurch on April 05, 2013, 07:46:58 PM
Yes and about 480 odd people going by the number of views of the post right under this one......


http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64593 if you can't find it...
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: VingtTrois on April 05, 2013, 11:08:38 PM
Crazy price!!!!!!!! US $9,100.00 [18 bids]
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: LoadWB on April 06, 2013, 12:22:52 AM
I suspect the final price was a troll.  Is any collector REALLY going to pay almost 10-large for an Amiga 1000, irrespective of its condition?
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: r.cade on April 06, 2013, 01:23:45 AM
Especially with no photos at all of the box seals... BS
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Rob on April 06, 2013, 01:38:09 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;731434
I suspect the final price was a troll.  Is any collector REALLY going to pay almost 10-large for an Amiga 1000, irrespective of its condition?


Someone trying to manipulate the perceived market value maybe.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: MiAmigo on April 06, 2013, 02:02:08 AM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;731391
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310640574635?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Um WOW... that's all I have to say.

Rich
Santa Maria Cantabile! (Oops! Sorry for cussin'!)
Were there DRUGS hidden in that thing??
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Amiga_Nut on April 06, 2013, 05:08:35 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;731434
I suspect the final price was a troll.  Is any collector REALLY going to pay almost 10-large for an Amiga 1000, irrespective of its condition?


Well a loose C65 can go for $20,000 so yes I think so.

As a warranty repair it is like buying display stock which was packed away in less than a year. Amiga's have become too slow to do anything other than playing Rocket Ranger (as is correct) so now that people have stopped deluding themselves an A4000 + PPC = bye bye modern PC for daily use the Amiga 1000 is going to be the most valuable of all as it was the first and best ergonomics of all IMO.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: LoadWB on April 06, 2013, 08:54:41 AM
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;731448
Well a loose C65 can go for $20,000


A C65 is FAR more "rare" than an Amiga 1000.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: spirantho on April 06, 2013, 10:09:36 AM
I'm not too surprised at this auction.

How many people here have seen an unopened shrink-wrapped A1000 in real life in the last 5 years?

There are collectors who have money and only want mint stuff, and they will pay a massive premium for it... it's the same in any collectors field, be it records, coins, stamps, squirrels, whatever.

The sad thing is that this A1000 will likely never be used!
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Xanxi on April 06, 2013, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: spirantho;731454


The sad thing is that this A1000 will likely never be used!


Good for it, because so old unused capacitors and chips might just blow themselves at the first sight of the first electron on power up.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: midway on April 06, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Thats a bit..... exaggerated?

Why would you bid 8500 when the previous bid was 500?

Looks like this one might be relisted soon :roflmao:



Quote from: Vlabguy1;731391
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310640574635?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Um WOW... that's all I have to say.

Rich
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2013, 06:20:08 PM
I'm sure they guy who bid 8500 will send the seller a cheque for 20,000 and politely ask him to mail the A1000 and 10,000 to some address in Nigeria and to keep the extra 1500 as compensation for the extra work.  ;)
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Markus_Bieler on April 06, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: Xanxi;731471
Good for it, because so old unused capacitors and chips might just blow themselves at the first sight of the first electron on power up.


Just start up and leave it running for only a couple of seconds (30-40) the first time. then switch off and wait some minutes (drink a coffee etc). Startz up again the old Computer let him running for 1-2 minutes and Switch off. Next satepp is a runningtime of 10-15 minutes, after it should go well running for longer peroids.

But to top the Topic:

How about his auction: :eek: CRAZY :eek: (http://www.ebay.ch/itm/321100844844;jsessionid=85DA08DC932122B4E376B4E9098492B7?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ch%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D321100844844%26_rdc%3D1)

I Need some dime, please donate :D

Markus
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Chips4U on April 07, 2013, 12:11:36 AM
Hi Guys

I was the seller of this auction
I have been paid in full for this so relisting won't happen
This is probably the last unopened A 1000 in existence
The buyer is the CEO of a public company that u have heard of and used
My guess is he is European and he probably cut his teeth on this learning
Programming 25 yrs ago and he is indebted forever to this machine
It will probably take a place of honor in his boardroom or office

t one time, I was the largest dealer of Motorola processors in the world, outside of Motorola. Jay Miner was a friend of mine I saw several times at Amiga World, World if Commodore, and Amiga Welt

Phase 5, Gvp Mtec Apollo Elbox, Dkb, Spirit,Csa Roessmuller and Draco all had my chips in them I am still friends with most of the principles and engineers in these companies. Mtec inscribed my name in the traces of their 030 board


I've been around for a while And deeply miss the the friends and customers I have made in the Amiga community.

I started buying c64 returns from home shopping club. Commodore had a speed bump at the end if there driveway and the socketed chips would crawl up in their sockets and just need reseating   In those days you could make $400 repairing an SX64 this way   Those were glory days and I really miss them

My first chips I sold were 68020 chips for a freeware file of the Lucas board designed by Oliver Harms in Germany. This was the 1st Amiga hack.it was like magic that you could go from 16 bit to 32 but and up the clock speed by double . The euro community was a Hotbed of Amiga activity. So many borders and languages but the point and click GUi transcended these barriers
Your only other option was a $3000 Mac (which wasn't NTSC or pal compatible, u could use your tv for a monitor ) or a command line solution like IBM
Because the Amiga was NTSC the it found embravment by the broadcast community

Btw , I was surprised what the computer brought but in retrospect, it shouldn't be
This item deserves to be in a museum. Thousands of today's brightest programmers, engineers and broadcast pros got their start with this NTSC compatible computer with color graphics and multiple voices. No IBM came close
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Gazbonk on April 07, 2013, 01:32:28 AM
Seems crazy the prices people pay on the auction sites, but whatever you are offered and get is the price that the buyer wants the item for.

Ive paid high prices for things (accelerators) because I wanted them and there were none available except on the auction site.

PS - Welcome to the forum & a nice story with Amiga history
.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Vlabguy1 on April 07, 2013, 01:57:09 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;731434
I suspect the final price was a troll.  Is any collector REALLY going to pay almost 10-large for an Amiga 1000, irrespective of its condition?



Could very well be..but it takes a few to tango... I was thinking that the high bidder must
realize the importance the Amiga played in the evolution of modern computing... I mean
Andy Warhol used it.  I know I kind of make fun but I think it is pretty darn cool.  Maybe not 9k worth of cool, but still.

Rich
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Vlabguy1 on April 07, 2013, 02:13:10 AM
Quote from: Chips4U;731488
Hi Guys

I was the seller of this auction
I have been paid in full for this so relisting won't happen
This is probably the last unopened A 1000 in existence
The buyer is the CEO of a public company that u have heard of and used
My guess is he is European and he probably cut his teeth on this learning
Programming 25 yrs ago and he is indebted forever to this machine
It will probably take a place of honor in his boardroom or office

t one time, I was the largest dealer of Motorola processors in the world, outside of Motorola. Jay Miner was a friend of mine I saw several times at Amiga World, World if Commodore, and Amiga Welt

Phase 5, Gvp Mtec Apollo Elbox, Dkb, Spirit,Csa Roessmuller and Draco all had my chips in them I am still friends with most of the principles and engineers in these companies. Mtec inscribed my name in the traces of their 030 board


I've been around for a while And deeply miss the the friends and customers I have made in the Amiga community.

I started buying c64 returns from home shopping club. Commodore had a speed bump at the end if there driveway and the socketed chips would crawl up in their sockets and just need reseating   In those days you could make $400 repairing an SX64 this way   Those were glory days and I really miss them

My first chips I sold were 68020 chips for a freeware file of the Lucas board designed by Oliver Harms in Germany. This was the 1st Amiga hack.it was like magic that you could go from 16 bit to 32 but and up the clock speed by double . The euro community was a Hotbed of Amiga activity. So many borders and languages but the point and click GUi transcended these barriers
Your only other option was a $3000 Mac (which wasn't NTSC or pal compatible, u could use your tv for a monitor ) or a command line solution like IBM
Because the Amiga was NTSC the it found embravment by the broadcast community

Btw , I was surprised what the computer brought but in retrospect, it shouldn't be
This item deserves to be in a museum. Thousands of today's brightest programmers, engineers and broadcast pros got their start with this NTSC compatible computer with color graphics and multiple voices. No IBM came close


Congrats on the sale.  Good thing the A1000 didn't have a battery onboard ;-).. I wonder if there will be an "unboxing video" posted ..

Rich
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: LoadWB on April 07, 2013, 05:04:49 AM
Quote from: Chips4U;731488
Hi Guys

I was the seller of this auction
I have been paid in full for this so relisting won't happen


I stand corrected, then.  And honestly surprised.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Chips4U on April 07, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
My guess is that this will never be unboxed
Much like a 100 year old bottle of champagne, the glory in it is owning the only one, with the contents never being tasted. Being able to pull it from your wine cellar just to show and marvel at it
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: arttu80 on April 07, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
Really awesome stuff! I salute those collectors who's willing to preserve some very important higlights in Amiga history and dish out that kind of money along the way. And yes, it WILL marvel people when they see unopened box of A1k in years to come! :)
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Xanxi on April 07, 2013, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Chips4U;731514
My guess is that this will never be unboxed
Much like a 100 year old bottle of champagne, the glory in it is owning the only one, with the contents never being tasted. Being able to pull it from your wine cellar just to show and marvel at it

So, just like the Schrödinger's cat, it will be the Schrödinger's A1000.
Is there an A1000 inside the box or not? No one will ever know and the A1000 could be in different points of the space-time continuum at equal probabilities: that's quatum physics :D
At least, i take for sure that there was an A1000 inside the box just one second after the box was closed at the Commodore factory on 1985 ;)
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: LoadWB on April 07, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
Quote from: Xanxi;731521
So, just like the Schrödinger's cat, it will be the Schrödinger's A1000.
Is there an A1000 inside the box or not? No one will ever know and the A1000 could be in different points of the space-time continuum at equal probabilities: that's quatum physics :D
At least, i take for sure that there was an A1000 inside the box just one second after the box was closed at the Commodore factory on 1985 ;)


Yup.  There is and there isn't an A1000 in the box.  So long as the box never opens it is still in the Commodore factory, brand-spanking new and fresh off the assembly line.  Once the box is open, however, it will be yanked into the future, dry electrolytic capacitors and all.

This was Commodore's genius: Quantum Product Distribution.  The assembly lines are chugging away in the 80s and early 90s producing Amigas for us to open today and into the future.  Just like those CD-32s that "turned up" several years back.  This, IMHO, was Petro's big failure with his 1200 Magic Packs, that he had the 1200s delivered too soon from the 90s by opening the boxes to sign them.  If only he had been privy to Commodore's QPD system.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: r.cade on April 07, 2013, 05:15:45 PM
Here is a good one!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-commodore-PC-10-1987-/251255916533
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on April 07, 2013, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: r.cade;731527
Here is a good one!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-commodore-PC-10-1987-/251255916533

"in kindergarten in 1994" - kids these days! :p
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: LoadWB on April 07, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: r.cade;731527
Here is a good one!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-commodore-PC-10-1987-/251255916533


Okay, now that is just obscene.  You know, I never realized how much the Commodore PCs looked like an Amiga running something like PC Task.  Maybe that's what they really are under the hood! :crazy:
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Darrin on April 07, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: r.cade;731527
Here is a good one!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-commodore-PC-10-1987-/251255916533


My first thoughts were:  "Oh, that's a nice A2000"

My second were:  "HOW MUCH???!!!"

:D

At least I know where the A2000 case inspiration came from now.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: bbond007 on April 07, 2013, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: Darrin;731531
My first thoughts were:  "Oh, that's a nice A2000"

My second were:  "HOW MUCH???!!!"

:D

At least I know where the A2000 case inspiration came from now.


are those really worth that much? I know someone who had one of those... its either sitting right where it was or has been sent to the scrap heap...
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: bitman on April 07, 2013, 07:03:42 PM
Makes me wonder how much a CBM Amiga 4000T would be worth?

Quote from: Amiga_Nut;731448
Well a loose C65 can go for $20,000 so yes I think so.
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: paul1981 on April 07, 2013, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: r.cade;731527
Here is a good one!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-commodore-PC-10-1987-/251255916533

Wow! Never seen anything like that before. I was reading away at the auction thinking "he's had it 6 months and hasn't realised it's an Amiga yet?" LOL. :roflmao:
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: Vlabguy1 on April 07, 2013, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: r.cade;731527
Here is a good one!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-commodore-PC-10-1987-/251255916533



Ok..that auction is worth tracking..lol..

Rich
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: scuzzb494 on April 16, 2013, 11:46:12 PM
Silly money... I had these three given me recently for nothing. I know the auction was a factory sealed but in truth the real joy of collecting is the getting stuff without the pain.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0410/car_0410_075.jpg

Saying that I would love to get a sealed Amiga of any form.. So well done.

Commodore PCs are getting difficult to find. Though again you can find them being sold as basic PCs. Just need to keep your eyes open. This one had a barrel battery so beware

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz448.htm

I note that that other auction had a later monitor. Monitors are pretty difficult to find for the older machines. This is a green screen for the C128. I have boxed monitors, but seriously you need a load of space if you are going to collect these.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_jun12/a_scuzz_jun12_02.jpg

On the smaller side I guess the older Plus 4 s are better to collect and for me still my best find I guess was this C116 which came free with a printer that I bought. Totally unexpected that. Would have been nice to get the box with that one.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/c116/a65_c11601.jpg

By the way another computer that suffers from the battery is the MegaPC. I was lucky cus the guy had store it upside down and the battery leaked into the top of the case.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0807/car_2708_145.jpg

I collect boxed stuff and it stays boxed. Anyone who does this is either collecting to one day sell for a big return as they become rare, or as in my case just to preserve for historical purpose. The box is as important as the computer in terms of product info. Though if sealed it really isn't educating anyone... Quite a dilema this one. And in truth I guess I wouldn't open that box either.

I have bought computers just for the poly inserts. Like the cheese on an A500. Its the poly with the modulator in it. Amazing how many boxed Amigas come with that bit of packaging missing.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0608/car08276.jpg

There is always something to collect..... Not sure its worth that much as a hobby though.

PS I was also given this little lot for nothing.... Now thats what i call a good deal... boxed mint.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz389.htm

Saying that I did pay £500 for this unused Jupiter Ace. Bought as a present and left on a shelf its whole life. Now that is in a box.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0406/car_1606_021.jpg
Title: Re: Did anyone else see this auction??
Post by: psxphill on April 17, 2013, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;731542
Ok..that auction is worth tracking..lol..
 
Rich

He must have leant on the zero key or something. Although I wouldn't pay $75 for it. But then I wouldn't get nostalgic over a PC like that, just because it came from commodore doesn't mean I'd want it.