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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: TurbineX on February 28, 2013, 07:26:38 PM
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Hi all. I brought an Amiga 500+ off a friend. I've managed to get it set up correctly but here Is the problem. When I have tuned it In I get a static kinda sound coming from my tv. I've tried different RF cables but always the same problem. Could It be this chip inside thats giving me the problems as I opened her up yesterday
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/djplayuk/Photo0195_zps72b77f2e.jpg)
If it Is that that's casing the problem. Could someone please redirect me to someone who could replace It. Thank you.
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RF cables? so your using the A520 modulator? Try hooking up something to the two phono sockets on the back and see if you get any sound. That would rule out the modulator.
And, yes.... get that battery out right now!
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RF cables? so your using the A520 modulator? Try hooking up something to the two phono sockets on the back and see if you get any sound. That would rule out the modulator.
And, yes.... get that battery out right now!
My tv don't have the phono sockets. So by the sound of your reaction. That battery Is an Issue by the sounds of It?
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I meant rig something up to the two audio phono sockets on the Amiga (a hi-fi/soundbar/amp etc.)
Yes, that battery is a big issue that's eating away at the motherboard as we speak. I think the damage may already be done looking at your pics but-
The battery needs to be removed (it will work fine without) and the motherboard area cleaned to remove the acid.
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I meant rig something up to the two audio phono sockets on the Amiga (a hi-fi/soundbar/amp etc.)
Yes, that battery is a big issue that's eating away at the motherboard as we speak. I think the damage may already be done looking at your pics but-
The battery needs to be removed (it will work fine without) and the motherboard area cleaned to remove the acid.
Ah okies will do. Am I right In assuming that battery has something to do with the sound though?
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No, nothing. The battery is only there to keep the correct time. It will not matter to you unless you want the time within workbench.
The acid corrosion around the board will mean death eventually. The Acid corrosion around the Audio Filter circuit in your pictures doesn't look promising I'm afraid.
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No, nothing. The battery is only there to keep the correct time. It will not matter to you unless you want the time within workbench.
The acid corrosion around the board will mean death eventually. The Acid corrosion around the Audio Filter circuit in your pictures doesn't look promising I'm afraid.
Not good. As you have already established. Get it out. What would you suggest I clean the area with. Also If It Is the corrosion thats killed the sound. is there anyway to fix that or would It be better for me to hunt down another A500+?
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I personally would pull the motherboard out and scrub the area in the kitchen sink (make sure it dries before use though).
Any damaged components/traces can be repaired but, A500/+'s are cheap and easy to get hold of so it's time and effort vs small(ish) expense. Up to you really.
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I personally would pull the motherboard out and scrub the area in the kitchen sink (make sure it dries before use though).
Any damaged components/traces can be repaired but, A500/+'s are cheap and easy to get hold of so it's time and effort vs small(ish) expense. Up to you really.
Yea well i will give that ago but If no joy. There Is another Mobo on Ebay for £20 from a guy In Hastings which Is convenient as I'm not to far from there anyways. Either way I will update you on how It went. Thanks for the help Dr .Bongo :)
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Always help when I can. All the best :)
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One more thing, the battery damage looks like it's spreading to your memory expansion (the board plugged in the trapdoor underneath). Remove it and clean it before it kills that too.
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I just repaired an A1200 with the same problem.
The capacitors had leaked (as usual) which was half of the problem - the other half of the problem was that the leaking capacitor had dissolved the +12V line going to the op-amp chip. Make sure the op-amp has +12V and -12V supplies.
A short wire fixed it right up for me (along with a couple of new caps, naturally)
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One more thing, the battery damage looks like it's spreading to your memory expansion (the board plugged in the trapdoor underneath). Remove it and clean it before it kills that too.
Battery is out now. I found on the board it's pretty much burnt right through. No saving sound now on It. Although I think it would still be good for silent games until I can get a new board.
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Battery is out now. I found on the board it's pretty much burnt right through. No saving sound now on It. Although I think it would still be good for silent games until I can get a new board.
Not surprised looking at your pictures :( sorry. Still, I'm sure you'll get a replacement easy enough.
While your playing silent games tune your pc..etc... into http://amigaradio.info and keep in the mood :)
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Not surprised looking at your pictures :( sorry. Still, I'm sure you'll get a replacement easy enough.
While your playing silent games tune your pc..etc... into http://amigaradio.info and keep in the mood :)
Haha. It's funny you should say that. I've been listening to It while working on this Amiga. It's given me the taste so to speak. Thing now would be to order this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COMMODORE-AMIGA-A500-PLUS-REV-8A-MOTHERBOARD-WITH-2-04-ROM-/170997485295?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item27d03e8eef (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COMMODORE-AMIGA-A500-PLUS-REV-8A-MOTHERBOARD-WITH-2-04-ROM-/170997485295?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item27d03e8eef)
Maybe this little lesson has Installed a fresh Amiga fire into me. It's been a few years lol
Anyways. Here is the Burn I was talking about
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/djplayuk/Photo0196_zps2d3d45eb.jpg)
Damn. That nasty lol
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I'm really pleased that your enjoying my MOD stream! :) Brilliant.
On a sour note, that ebay motherboard has battery damage also - avoid!
Does it need to be a 500+? I ask because I have spare A500 boards that will fit straight in the case. You can Have one for postage costs.
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You can still resurrect that board - you just need to know which links have been broken and install wires there instead.
Of course knowing which lines are dead is the tricky bit, but that's why God invented schematics and multimeters. :)
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I'm really pleased that your enjoying my MOD stream! :) Brilliant.
On a sour note, that ebay motherboard has battery damage also - avoid!
Does it need to be a 500+? I ask because I have spare A500 boards that will fit straight in the case. You can Have one for postage costs.
Don't need to be a 500+ As long as i can put my extra ram In there. It would be fine :) Also what kinda price we looking at on postage? Thank you
You can still resurrect that board - you just need to know which links have been broken and install wires there instead.
Of course knowing which lines are dead is the tricky bit, but that's why God invented schematics and multimeters. :)
I'm rubbish when it comes to that kinda thing to be honest. I'm the kinda person who botched a Sega Saturn Bios change :P
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Don't need to be a 500+ As long as i can put my extra ram In there. It would be fine :) Also what kinda price we looking at on postage? Thank you
As long as the memory expansion you have is functional, it should work fine in a 500.
Postage? Not sure. I guess the £6.90 mark on the ebay auction would be accurate.
I just need to dig one out and test it first before I say 'yep you can have it'.
Let me know if you want to. (i suggest Private messaging me with that')
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Don't need to be a 500+ As long as i can put my extra ram In there. It would be fine :) Also what kinda price we looking at on postage? Thank you
As long as the memory expansion you have is functional, it should work fine in a 500.
Postage? Not sure. I guess the £6.90 mark on the ebay auction would be accurate.
I just need to dig one out and test it first before I say 'yep you can have it'.
Let me know if you want to. (i suggest Private messaging me with that')
Of course :) Thank you
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Hi!
If you have multimeter, or any voltage measuring device which can scale to 0-12V, please measure voltages on U14 chip (TL084CN) on pins 1 and 7. Shouldn't be much more than 2,5 volts. Please look at this pinout diagram --->
http://circuits.datasheetdir.com/37/TL084-pinout.jpg
I had 2 channels knocked out of my 500+ mobo, so only could hear whisperlike sound on one loudspeaker. I found out, it had 11volts on pin 1 (Right audio output pin), but only 2.x volts on pin 7 (Left audio output). So you should take a look at that chip also, it's amplifier chip on your Amiga.
These chips are easily obtainable, and cheap so you should be able to replace it if it's at fault.
Good luck.
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Hi!
If you have multimeter, or any voltage measuring device which can scale to 0-12V, please measure voltages on U14 chip (TL084CN) on pins 1 and 7. Shouldn't be much more than 2,5 volts. Please look at this pinout diagram --->
http://circuits.datasheetdir.com/37/TL084-pinout.jpg
I had 2 channels knocked out of my 500+ mobo, so only could hear whisperlike sound on one loudspeaker. I found out, it had 11volts on pin 1 (Right audio output pin), but only 2.x volts on pin 7 (Left audio output). So you should take a look at that chip also, it's amplifier chip on your Amiga.
These chips are easily obtainable, and cheap so you should be able to replace it if it's at fault.
Good luck.
Hi and thank you for for the reply. I don't have any of those tools but fortunately I have acquired 2 Amigas within the passed couple hours. They wanted Wii games so I swapped lol
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They wanted Wii games so I swapped lol
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The Damn Fools!
That's the best part about Miggies, get a bunch and HAVE FUN! ;)
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Hi,
Don't give up just yet, the Amiga 500 is a two sided board, if you have schematics of it, you may be able to determine which runs where ate up and solder some wire over them to complete the circuits again.
If you aren't knowledgeable in this area, I suggest you keep it for parts when you find a new one.
smerf
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The Damn Fools!
That's the best part about Miggies, get a bunch and HAVE FUN! ;)
Indeed hehehe. That's what I'm doing :D
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@TurbineX did your facebook deal come off? dying to know what you got :)
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@TurbineX did your facebook deal come off? dying to know what you got :)
At present I'm working on getting them down here. The guy who I'm doing the deal with Is getting them to the post office in the morning to weigh them so afetr I know what they are going to cost to send. I will get the courier to collect them and get them down to me. Not sure on price but I'm sure it wont be too much but as soon as I know I will let people know :D
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Hi,
Don't give up just yet, the Amiga 500 is a two sided board, if you have schematics of it, you may be able to determine which runs where ate up and solder some wire over them to complete the circuits again.
If you aren't knowledgeable in this area, I suggest you keep it for parts when you find a new one.
smerf
I'm really not that good with that sort of thing smerf.
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If you want I can take a look at it for you - it's the postage that's the problem. Alternatively get a new one, stick the old board / Amiga on EBAY and describe it as is - then someone like me can buy it and repair it =)
I will bet its salvageable - it's a question of looking closely at the PCB to check the damage and use a multimeter to check connectivity against the circuit diagram and what can be seen of what's left of affected traces.
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If you want I can take a look at it for you - it's the postage that's the problem. Alternatively get a new one, stick the old board / Amiga on EBAY and describe it as is - then someone like me can buy it and repair it =)
I will bet its salvageable - it's a question of looking closely at the PCB to check the damage and use a multimeter to check connectivity against the circuit diagram and what can be seen of what's left of affected traces.
To be honest. Once I get this deal sorted with the other Amigas. You are more than welcome to the old board If you wish as I may end up using the old case for my pc :) Load It up with Aros or whatever lol
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Sorry about the damage in your motherboard...but wouldn't you rather own an Amiga 1200 instead? It is a real Amiga after all and it is better than A500+ with no limitations or restrictions. Just my thought on this matter.
As for the Amiga radio it is sad that the only thing comes out of it is music :(. I wish it was an Amiga talk show radio, where people talk about everything Amiga and there are people calling and so forth. Sad :(
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Sorry about the damage in your motherboard...but wouldn't you rather own an Amiga 1200 instead? It is a real Amiga after all and it is better than A500+ with no limitations or restrictions. Just my thought on this matter.
As for the Amiga radio it is sad that the only thing comes out of it is music :(. I wish it was an Amiga talk show radio, where people talk about everything Amiga and there are people calling and so forth. Sad :(
I wish i could afford a 1200 to be honest. Those seem to be dead expensive from what I seen on Ebay . But I don't mind the lower models. As long as I can do what I need to do. I.E Monkey Island and my music programs :)
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As for the Amiga radio it is sad that the only thing comes out of it is music :(. I wish it was an Amiga talk show radio, where people talk about everything Amiga and there are people calling and so forth. Sad :(
I'd happily host live shows/talks etc. In fact I'd really like that, I'm not much of a voice though. So if anyone feels up to the job and wants some airtime, say and let's see what we can do.
ps. sorry to hijack the thread.
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I'd happily host live shows/talks etc. In fact I'd really like that, I'm not much of a voice though. So if anyone feels up to the job and wants some airtime, say and let's see what we can do.
ps. sorry to hijack the thread.
I'd give It ago too. Did some unofficial VO work for a big DAO Module :)
How would you go about setting this up though? Weekly podcast over Teamspeak or Mumble?
Going live would take more work I'd imagine.
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I'd give It ago too. Did some unofficial VO work for a big DAO Module :)
How would you go about setting this up though? Weekly podcast over Teamspeak or Mumble?
Going live would take more work I'd imagine.
Great stuff!
The problem with podcasts is they are non-interactive. The station is streamed over shoutcast which is quite easy to do live shows on, with the aid of a broadcasting package. I did do a few live shows on the c64 station a couple of years back so I know what is needed. You can use irc chat or similar while your on air so listeners can join in too.
I wouldn't rule out podcasts though, as long as they are interesting. They can be placed in the stream easily.
Starting to quite like this idea :)
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Great stuff!
The problem with podcasts is they are non-interactive. The station is streamed over shoutcast which is quite easy to do live shows on, with the aid of a broadcasting package. I did do a few live shows on the c64 station a couple of years back so I know what is needed. You can use irc chat or similar while your on air so listeners can join in too.
I wouldn't rule out podcasts though, as long as they are interesting. They can be placed in the stream easily.
Starting to quite like this idea :)
Indeed. It has the potential to make It seem like It's 1992 all over again. Games reviews. Tips and tricks, Interviews. And finally I can try and get Jon Hare (Anyone know what he Is doing these days?) in for an Interview with listener Q&A's My imagination Is already firing up as we speak lol
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Indeed. It has the potential to make It seem like It's 1992 all over again. Games reviews. Tips and tricks, Interviews. And finally I can try and get Jon Hare (Anyone know what he Is doing these days?) in for an Interview with listener Q&A's My imagination Is already firing up as we speak lol
Wonderful, it would be great to get some fresh material on the station. Also, some help would be nice. If you (or anybody else) wants to submit anything, my email is
Dr.Bongo@c64radio.com
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Wonderful, it would be great to get some fresh material on the station. Also, some help would be nice. If you (or anybody else) wants to submit anything, my email is
Dr.Bongo@c64radio.com
I've sent you an email now :)
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The Amigas I swapped for those Wii games should be here tomorrow hopefully :)
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The Amigas I swapped for those Wii games should be here tomorrow hopefully :)
:) Let us know what goodies you get.
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:) Let us know what goodies you get.
Hehehe. I will :D
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Sweeett!!! A REAL AMIGA TALK SHOW RADIO!!! Not only will you be talking about Amiga's but you will be helping live in best hardware configuration, advice in how to install, etc, etc ,etc. Even you will discuss new Amiga title games for sale and so forth, giving programmers entice to program for Amiga again. If the intention to do all of this on the same radio link in this forum then it is worth it for me to bookmark it. Is it?
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Sweeett!!! A REAL AMIGA TALK SHOW RADIO!!! Not only will you be talking about Amiga's but you will be helping live in best hardware configuration, advice in how to install, etc, etc ,etc. Even you will discuss new Amiga title games for sale and so forth, giving programmers entice to program for Amiga again. If the intention to do all of this on the same radio link in this forum then it is worth it for me to bookmark it. Is it?
Baby steps currently. We are In the planning phase :)
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Sweeett!!! A REAL AMIGA TALK SHOW RADIO!!! Not only will you be talking about Amiga's but you will be helping live in best hardware configuration, advice in how to install, etc, etc ,etc. Even you will discuss new Amiga title games for sale and so forth, giving programmers entice to program for Amiga again. If the intention to do all of this on the same radio link in this forum then it is worth it for me to bookmark it. Is it?
It's currently work in progress, and all the support we can get is welcomed (including ideas).
As the owner/operator of the linked station (amigaradio.info) I say, bookmark it :)
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It's currently work in progress, and all the support we can get is welcomed (including ideas).
As the owner/operator of the linked station (amigaradio.info) I say, bookmark it :)
DONE!:drink:
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@Dr Bongo. I got the 2 Amigas. Bad news Is neither worked properly. Good news Is Out of all the brokens. I managed to get a fully working Amiga 500. Here's how I achieved the feat
My old Amiga as you know had No sound but a prefect floppy drive
First Amiga I got today kept blinking black and green but a Dead Floppy drive
Second Amiga I got today Had a nothing wrong with It but a faulty floppy. It wouldn't read the disks and kept getting error messages.
I moved the perfect floppy drive to the good Amiga with the Faulty floppy and took the clean case from the Amiga which had the green and black error.
I now have a fully functioning Amiga, pending test as I think the keyboard Is non responsive with a few key. Not a problem though. I will use either keyboard from the now Spares department I have created lol
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:) deja vu! I've been exactly there myself. Nice one though, hope you've got a few choice games to poke in her.
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I have a few. Monkey island being my favorite. Play with the mouse so no keyboard issue then LOL. I just need to get round to putting one of those other keyboards in :P I'm really suprised I never see Cannon fodder in the bag of disks. Going to start to look for original disks soon :)