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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: ChaosLord on December 14, 2012, 03:05:21 PM
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SUPER DEAL ON SPRINGLOADED KEYBOARD!
I THINK IT EXPIRES IN 47 HOURS.
Rosewill RK-9000RE
This keyboard has numeric keypad and all keys. NOT MISSING ANY KEYS like sooooo many other keyboards these days that chop off the right Amiga key or the Help key or the numeric keypad or other random keys.
Every key has a spring under it. YAY!
All keys can easily be replaced. They are not screwed up like some keyboards.
They are giving them away free for $55.00 at NewEgg.
You even get free shipping (in USA I guess?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201044 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201044)
$55.00 for a springloaded FULL, Cherry Red, not super sabatoged keyboard is SUPER DUPER CHEAP.
Sometimes they have springloaded keyboards for only $40.00 but they are always the stupid crappy noisy switches that nobody wants.
This keyboard has the Cherry Reds which are the only ones I will buy!
I only do reds! They are the smoothest and require the least force!
Cherry Reds are just like improved Cherry Blacks from the famous Amiga 2000 keyboards.
It works on USB Or PS/2. It is not a bigotted Nazi USB fanboi that bans PS/2 like certain other keyboards. You can plug this keyboard into anything and it will work. All Amigas can use this keyboard if u have a PS/2 adapter on your Amiga which of course you do :)
Use this promo code to get the $45.00 off the listed price:
EMCJHJJ232
If u want a springloaded keyboard this is the best one.
All modern keyboards are sabotaged in one way or another. Usually 3 or 4 ways. The keyboard industry runs rampant with corruption like the Camera industry. This keyboard is sabotaged the least. And its on sale super cheap.
I have studied Keyboards for 20 hours a day for 44 days. Its ridiculous what I had to go thru. U get the benefit of my research for free. Have fun :)
p.s. This keyboard has NKRO when plugged into PS/2. That means u can smash as many keys as u want and they will all register. Excellent feature.
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No bluetooth, but the woman doing the presentation is cute.
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No bluetooth, but the woman doing the presentation is cute.
Not really into Asians, but she seems geeky enough.
Geeky is the new sexy.
EDIT: As for the keyboard.
If it ain't buckling spring, it ain't for me.
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Nice find, to bad I have enough switched keyboards already :(
We have a Swedish manufacturer of mechanical keyboards and they do great non crippled keyboards with PS/2 and NKRO :)
Also as you know blue cherry switches are my thing ;)
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If it ain't buckling spring, it ain't for me.
Do u really use buckling spring on ur Amiga?
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Every key has a spring under it. YAY!
It already has springs in the switches, why the need for extra springs?
Sometimes they have springloaded keyboards for only $40.00 but they are always the stupid crappy noisy switches that nobody wants.
Some people prefer clicky switches, such as Cherry Blue and Cherry Brown.
Cherry Reds are just like improved Cherry Blacks from the famous Amiga 2000 keyboards.
They're not improved, they're just different. There are four different Cherry switches, because different people prefer different switches.
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Do u really use buckling spring on ur Amiga?
Not yet. But I want to fully convert to buckling spring keyboards (that would also include my PC at work) in the nigh future.
Driving people opposite of your cube crazy is half the fun of mechanical keyboards ;)
Why? Anything wrong with that?
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Don't like the linear reds. I much prefer browns.
Even better would be torpe. But those are $$$.
Rosewill are ok. Whatever you do DO NOT BUY LEOPOLD! They are crap.
My favorite mechy keyboard company at the moment:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/
This will be my replacement keyboard for my awful leo tenkeyless.
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Howabout....
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/
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Even better would be torpe. But those are $$$.
Topre sux. They psychotically hate PS/2 and won't allow their keyboards to work on any PS/2 computer. Such as my A1200T, A3000, etc.
Whatever you do DO NOT BUY LEOPOLD! They are crap.
I agree because the CEO of Leopold has severe Spacebar Psychosis. He keeps constantly replacing the incompatible nonstandard stupid spacebar with a new incompatible nonstandard stupid spacebar just to screw over everybody.
My favorite mechy keyboard company at the moment:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/
This will be my replacement keyboard for my awful leo tenkeyless.
WASD is good. I only mentioned Rosewill because they are so cheap.
I almost got tricked into buying a Leopold before I found out about Severe Acute Spacebar Psychosis Syndrome.
What is your specific complaint against Leopold?
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Nom nom nom nom
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=92
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Topre sux. They psychotically hate PS/2 and won't allow their keyboards to work on any PS/2 computer. Such as my A1200T, A3000, etc.
If that is your only beef, then you obviously haven't typed on one ;)
use a ps2 to usb adapter.
What is your specific complaint against Leopold?
This: I have replaced about 1/2 of the keycaps and 2 spacebars. The spacebar is elmers glued down. They are absolute crap caps. The colored caps are from WASD and they are awesome. Should have bought WASD to start with.
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When I see features like: "The Rosewill RK-9000RE incorporates high quality braided cable and gold plated USB and PS/2 connector. These connectors ensure low latency." I have to wonder what they are smoking...
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Looks like a great keyboard.
Expensive, but looks awesome.
So, presuming that the keys glow or spews out dollar bills or a stripper jumps out from between the keys, or some-such.
If I had a hardware budget, I'd consider to pick one up at that price.
My preference for keyboards is the IBM Model M keyboards.
Fully springed, tactile, and they do make some noise.
I like the sound produced. Totally clicky.
As for cube neighbors, feh. There's nothing in my contract that says I can't use one. ha!
And, what was that, up there?
An exercise in creative writing I presume.
Anyway, IBM Model M's. Ain't nothing like them.
I have three in service and I love 'em.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/
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I love the QPAD MK-80 a lot!
I got this one.
(http://www.mindfactory.de/images/product_images/1280/806775_0__44834.jpg)
And here is for all you natively English speaking guys :)
(http://tekpc.co.uk/image/MK80_3[1].jpg)
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Sorry, just can't get excited about black keyboards at all. Especially if we're talking about using them with Amigas. Strange Rosewill doesn't offer a beige model. Only thing I see of theirs that's beige is a PS2/USB adapter.
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If that is your only beef, then you obviously haven't typed on one ;)
use a ps2 to usb adapter.
No such adapter exists.
Topre rigged their keyboard to never work on a PS/2 computer such as an Amiga.
I would have typed on 3 Topres if Topre wasn't run by a bunch psychos who banish PS/2 devices from working with their keyboards.
Topres keyboards are junk.
Topre switches might be good, bad or garbage, depending on who you ask. But Topre keyboards are vandalized, sabotaged junk.
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This: I have replaced about 1/2 of the keycaps and 2 spacebars. The spacebar is elmers glued down. They are absolute crap caps.
I am trying to understand what was wrong with the Leopold keycaps?
As for the spacebar, are you saying the Leopold spacebar was glued onto the switch so it could not be removed?
Please give me infos.
Which specific model of Leopold are we talking about?
The colored caps are from WASD and they are awesome. Should have bought WASD to start with.
I should have bought a WASD too. I would have bought one its just that they banished the A from their OS keys option so I skipped right over them and then ended up buying a $70.00 Rosewill. If I was going to pay that much then I should have just went ahead and paid $120.00 (or whatever) to get a WASD keyboard with an idiotic blank OS key.
Anyway I ordered some keycaps from WASD to try out. I will see how they are.
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When I see features like: "The Rosewill RK-9000RE incorporates high quality braided cable and gold plated USB and PS/2 connector. These connectors ensure low latency." I have to wonder what they are smoking...
The cable is braided. But it is complete crap. Its the worst USB cable of all time.
Like I said: All modern keyboards are sabotaged. Its just a question of what the sabotage is.
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My preference for keyboards is the IBM Model M keyboards.
The IBM Model M does not have Amiga keys so its useless for serious keyboard work.
The purpose of a keyboard is generate keycodes.
IBM Model M, lacking 2 modifier keys, cannot generate thousands of keycodes that a normal keyboard can.
Fully springed, tactile, and they do make some noise.
I like the sound produced. Totally clicky.
As for cube neighbors, feh. There's nothing in my contract that says I can't use one. ha!
Yes the switches are groovy. Ok they take way to much force to activate and they are super loud. But other than that they are cool.
I don't understand why they don't make a lower force version. They have had over 25 years to figure out how to put a different spring in their switch.
I almost bought one once but they are just completely useless on the Amiga. No shortcuts work and you can't flip screens with Amiga M/N.
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@SOM99
About your QPAD:
Does your Right Amiga key work?
Does the Help key work?
What kind of switches are in your QPAD?
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Sorry, just can't get excited about black keyboards at all. Especially if we're talking about using them with Amigas.
If u buy keyboards based on color then u r doing it wrong.
Health comes first. Color last.
Strange Rosewill doesn't offer a beige model.
All the world's keyboards are sabotaged ripoffs and u r worried about color. :roflmao:
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@SOM99
About your QPAD:
Does your Right Amiga key work?
Does the Help key work?
What kind of switches are in your QPAD?
I have never tried it on a Amiga :/ So can't say, they only make keyboards with Cherry MX Red and Cherry MX Blue switches.
Nice quality on the keyboards (Swedish company so ill buy more from them to support them) and all their keyboards have Full N-Key roll over, tho the MK-85 have over USB but they supplie a PS/2 adapter with it at least, but I prefer the ones with onnly PS/2.
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what about this one?
XArmor U9W 2.4 GHz RF wireless mechanical keyboard Cherry MX Brown (http://www.amazon.com/XArmor-U9W-wireless-mechanical-keyboard/dp/B004S862FW)
It still perserve the legacy wired connection if you are low on battery power....
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I am trying to understand what was wrong with the Leopold keycaps?
As for the spacebar, are you saying the Leopold spacebar was glued onto the switch so it could not be removed?
I had to glue the spacebar down as the stems stretch/crack with use.
If you look at the picture, the cap that is out has no stem - they crack and break. That cap lasted maybe 2-3 months of typical use. One after the other started breaking out of the blue.
Also, the LEDs don't work anymore either. Its a Leo FC200.
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Take a good look at the reviews before you buy that keyboard. It appears to have a defective mini USB connector that has broken off for several people. If you are thinking about buying a mechanical keyboard, you should look into Omnikey. The omnikey is one of the nices keyboards ever made and is 100% Amiga compatible via the dip switches under the trapdoor.
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If you are serious about getting a mechy keyboard, take some time - check out keyboardauthority, or geekhack, and spend some time reading the reviews.
For those buckling spring aficionados out there, you can still buy them.
http://www.pckeyboard.com/
Unicomp makes the original designs on the original equipment, although the plastic quality is not the original :). Bonus - they will do custom key layout as well (for those amiga key ppl). Bonus bonus - they don't cost 100+ dollars off ebay and they come with either a PS2 or USB cable.
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Take a good look at the reviews before you buy that keyboard. It appears to have a defective mini USB connector that has broken off for several people.
I know about the idiotic USB port. They supposedly fixed it in 2012. I have a 2012 Rosewill and I have used it continuously for 16 days and it hasn't broken yet. :rofl:
Another guy told me its fixed in his 2012 version. That's all I know.
For $55.00 I figured it was worth the risk.
I looked at a gazillion different keyboards that were all sabotaged just as bad or worse. WASD keyboards are better quality (but not perfect) but 2x the price.
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If you are thinking about buying a mechanical keyboard, you should look into Omnikey. The omnikey is one of the nices keyboards ever made and is 100% Amiga compatible via the dip switches under the trapdoor.
The trouble with Omnikey keyboards is you have to apply a huge amount of force on each key to get it to register: nearly 70g
Cherry Red only requires 45g
There is no reason to place extra force on your tendons, it just speeds up getting tendonitis or Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
Omnikey only gives you 3.5mm before you crash.
Cherry Red gives you 4mm before you crash.
A proper keyboard would give you 8-12mm before crashing.
A person needs more travel, not less. All those impacts are very bad for your body.
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Bonus - they will do custom key layout as well (for those amiga key ppl).
What does "custom key layout" mean? Your Amiga keys have Amiga symbol on them?
Back in 2003 I looked into buying buckling spring keyboard but I couldn't find any that had Amiga keys. The Amiga keys did not exist. There was just a hole there. Maybe I didn't look long enough or something. But anwayz the trouble with Buckling springs is just they take huge amount of force: 70-90g and are super duper noisy. If u have a wife u will be dead within 30 days :lol:
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The trouble with Omnikey keyboards is you have to apply a huge amount of force on each key to get it to register: nearly 70g
I have a Cherry Black keyboard and have absolutely no problem with this 'huge force' :p And no, I'm not ham fisted.
Cherry Red only requires 45g
Some people like the extra force of the other swithces, which is one of the reasons why there are four Cherry switches: One size does NOT fit all.
There is no reason to place extra force on your tendons, it just speeds up getting tendonitis or Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
Not everyone gets that.
A proper keyboard would give you 8-12mm before crashing.
That's what YOU think is proper. There are many people who don't care and who don't have any problems.
Stop presenting your own preferences and needs as being universally applicable to everyone, because it makes no sense: Some people like peanut butter, while others hate the stuff :)
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I have a Cherry Black keyboard and have absolutely no problem with this 'huge force' :p And no, I'm not ham fisted.
Neither did I. I used Cherry Black for many years. It used to be the best thing going. Nevertheless I recognized that it was wasting huge of amounts of energy for nothing. But I had to wait decades for Cherry Reds to be invented.
Some people like the extra force of the other swithces, which is one of the reasons why there are four Cherry switches: One size does NOT fit all.
Some ppl like the extra flavor of the other cigarettes, which is one of the reasons why there are four brands of cigarettes: One size does NOT fit all.
But how many of those are healthy for you?
Not everyone gets that.
Not everyone gets throat cancer from smoking.
That's what YOU think is proper. There are many people who don't care and who don't have any problems.
Smoke inhalation: There are many people who don't care and who don't have any problems.
Stop presenting your own preferences and needs as being universally applicable to everyone, because it makes no sense: Some people like peanut butter, while others hate the stuff :)
For most ppl, peanut butter is not harmful.
For everyone, inhaling smoke particles is harmful
For everyone, impacts are harmful.
For everyone, wasted energy is wasted energy.
Saving energy is a universally desirable goal when performing work.
Staying healthy is a universally desirable goal.
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Nevertheless I recognized that it was wasting huge of amounts of energy for nothing.
The difference in energy usage is probably very small, and certainly not something I'm going to worry about. In fact, using energy through physical activity is a good thing.
Some ppl like the extra flavor of the other cigarettes, which is one of the reasons why there are four brands of cigarettes: One size does NOT fit all.
But how many of those are healthy for you?
Cigarettes are never healthy for you, extra flavors or not.
For most ppl, peanut butter is not harmful.
That's not the point. The point is that different people like and prefer different things. Take computer mice: Some like them heavy, some like them light and some don't care.
For everyone, impacts are harmful.
I don't see how the minuscule impacts from typing are harmful at all.
For everyone, wasted energy is wasted energy.
Having to use a tiny amount of extra force when typing isn't a waste of energy. I mean, how much extra energy are we talking about? 100 KCal? Big deal.
Saving energy is a universally desirable goal when performing work.
Then use a touch screen based keyboard. No force required at all :D
Staying healthy is a universally desirable goal.
If health is such a concern for you, then you should be looking at ergonomically shaped keyboards, because the way your hands are positioned is probably more important than the small amount of force required to press a key.
Really, I like my Cherry Black keyboard and don't care at all about how much force is required to press down the keys. I have no computer related health issues at all, never had and probably never will. If I want to do something about my health, then I'll stop smoking, start eating healthier and get some regular exercise. This will have a lot more impact than worrying about minuscule amounts of force and minuscule impacts.
Can everyone just use the equipment they're most comfortable with, without saying how it's best for everyone? Thanks :)
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The trouble with Omnikey keyboards is you have to apply a huge amount of force on each key to get it to register: nearly 70g
Cherry Red only requires 45g
There is no reason to place extra force on your tendons, it just speeds up getting tendonitis or Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
Omnikey only gives you 3.5mm before you crash.
Cherry Red gives you 4mm before you crash.
A proper keyboard would give you 8-12mm before crashing.
A person needs more travel, not less. All those impacts are very bad for your body.
I totally disagree with your comment about the Omnikey. It has by far one of the easiest key depress ever made. The white alp switches give way extremely easily. Especially the older they get, the smoother they get. The older Model M keyboard on the other hand does have that problem. The springs were so damn stiff from the late 80's to the early 90's, my hands got dead tired. Once Lexmark took over operation, It seemed to me the keys were easier to press.
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I totally disagree with your comment about the Omnikey. It has by far one of the easiest key depress ever made. The white alp switches give way extremely easily. Especially the older they get, the smoother they get. The older Model M keyboard on the other hand does have that problem. The springs were so damn stiff from the late 80's to the early 90's, my hands got dead tired. Once Lexmark took over operation, It seemed to me the keys were easier to press.
Alps can be great switches, and some people prefer them over the cherrys.
I would avoid the hunt for a quality used keyboard, however, when there are wonderful new equivalents (with guarantees and warranties), unless that is your thing :)
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Some ppl like the extra flavor of the other cigarettes, which is one of the reasons why there are four brands of cigarettes: One size does NOT fit all.
Remember in the bad old days, before people knew about cancer and cigarettes, there used to be hundreds of brands.
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That's not the point. The point is that different people like and prefer different things. Take computer mice: Some like them heavy, some like them light and some don't care.
And a fair number of people don't use mice at all, which is different from a keyboard. I don't really care for mice, I find a trackpad far easier and better.
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Alps can be great switches, and some people prefer them over the cherrys.
I would avoid the hunt for a quality used keyboard, however, when there are wonderful new equivalents (with guarantees and warranties), unless that is your thing :)
Sometimes, used is the best way to go. Today's stuff is usually "garbage". There may be 1 or 2 good keyboards out there but most of it is crap. I was lucky and found a brand new Omnikey 102 on ebay. Since then, I bought 4 others as backups. I know it's overkill since a new omnikey can last a good 15 or more years.
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I totally disagree with your comment about the Omnikey. It has by far one of the easiest key depress ever made. The white alp switches give way extremely easily. Especially the older they get, the smoother they get.
I found force graphs yesterday for all the Alps switches. It showed them as being fairly high force. I have spent an hour trying to find them today and I couldn't locate them. All I found was this which is basically what the force graphs said but not exactly since in the force graph there is a hump in the force before you actuate the key:
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide/11330#post_12658631 (http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide/11330#post_12658631)
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Alps can be great switches, and some people prefer them over the cherrys.
There's one of my favorites.
But honestly, I'll take anything with tactile feedback.
I'm running out of old IBM keyboards. :(