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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: motrucker on November 30, 2012, 07:23:35 PM
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I just received an early Christmas present - a new Raspberry Pi. Now to see just what I can get into....
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I'm giving RiscOS a try on mine. Interesting stuff...
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There are many Amiga games converted back in the day to Risc OS.
Zool (32bit version) works natively on Risc OS Pi, among others. Not compatible games are being fixed. See full list here:
http://www.acornarcade.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11999&page=1#121577
!!!! Update to latest development Risc OS ROM. The Risc OS ROM that comes with the default distro is outdated and has keyboard issues that will lock up the games.
Latest ROM can be downloaded at the developers site here:
https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/other-zipfiles
NOTE: Risc OS ROM is open source and free. Risc OS scene is not plagued by bad born bastards who steal money from old OSes, like the sad Amiga scene.
Risc OS also has cheap and solid hardware with a VERY GOOD price/feature ratio, not like the lame OS4/MOS hardware situation.
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I just received an early Christmas present - a new Raspberry Pi. Now to see just what I can get into....
You can try out my Amiga Boing ball or OpenVG YouTube client programs :)
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What I wonder is whether boards such as the Raspberry Pi couldn't be used to interface with Amigas in some way through the GIO (or other method with other boards) to act like a general add on device to supply network, USB, USB floppy access, print server, etc. I've heard that the external connection mechanism is relatively easy to program on the Pi. Is that correct? Nevertheless, it would be a nice idea. :-) I've got to get one!
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You got yours from RS components? I ordered from them for 8-ish months ago, got mine yesterday and a 512MB RAM version as a "sorry you had to wait" present, the others I ordered from other places and got in less then a week or so, so no more ordering from RS components for me, but hey got the 512MB version now also ^^
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What I wonder is whether boards such as the Raspberry Pi couldn't be used to interface with Amigas in some way through the GIO (or other method with other boards) to act like a general add on device to supply network, USB, USB floppy access, print server, etc. I've heard that the external connection mechanism is relatively easy to program on the Pi. Is that correct? Nevertheless, it would be a nice idea. :-) I've got to get one!
The biggest issue with this idea is that the Pi uses 3.3Volt IO and the Amiga uses 5V IO... You would need a bunch of level shifters between the two devices... Also once you have connected the Pi, there really wouldn't be any need for the Amiga :) ;)
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There are many Amiga games converted back in the day to Risc OS.
Zool (32bit version) works natively on Risc OS Pi, among others. Not compatible games are being fixed. See full list here:
http://www.acornarcade.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11999&page=1#121577
!!!! Update to latest development Risc OS ROM. The Risc OS ROM that comes with the default distro is outdated and has keyboard issues that will lock up the games.
Latest ROM can be downloaded at the developers site here:
https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/other-zipfiles
NOTE: Risc OS ROM is open source and free. Risc OS scene is not plagued by bad born bastards who steal money from old OSes, like the sad Amiga scene.
Risc OS also has cheap and solid hardware with a VERY GOOD price/feature ratio, not like the lame OS4/MOS hardware situation.
This is very interesting for me - I have a Raspberry Pi too and had basically given up on it because the Linux OS included with it is not my cup of tea to be honest. I was even planning to give away the Pi as a Xmas present this year!
The Risc OS build for Raspberry Pi you mention sounds very interesting and I have decided now to keep the Pi a bit longer to try it out! I have never used RiscOS before! I have ordered (donated) to get my SD Card with RiscOS pre-installed and look forward to trying it out soon!
Thanks for showing me something that makes it worth keeping the Pi for! :-)
Catcha,
Epsilon
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Why not run Aros on the pi there is a version for it...
http://www.aros-broadway.de/downloads/index.html
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No, there is a Linux-hosted version of AROS on the Pi. Lame, very lame, as it runs on WORST POSSIBLE scenario: the Xorg nightmare, the biggest piece of **** I've ever met for a graphical GUI. A massive resource hog, unaccelerated on the Pi.
So no AROS on the Pi. Forget about getting anything usable from this hosted thing.
Risc OS is a way better OS anyway.
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The biggest issue with this idea is that the Pi uses 3.3Volt IO and the Amiga uses 5V IO... You would need a bunch of level shifters between the two devices... Also once you have connected the Pi, there really wouldn't be any need for the Amiga
If the amiga can use a powerpc accelerator, I don't see why it couldn't use the arm processor on the pi as an accelerator.
It would be tricky, but an interesting project. Better yet, 4 pi's networked
to the amiga with access to all cpus. All jammed inside an amiga 600.
:lol:
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What do you expect on that hardware?. Cray performance?. You are just bashing for the sake of it. The pi is ideal for a hobby machine, not for a day to day work environment, period.
No, there is a Linux-hosted version of AROS on the Pi. Lame, very lame, as it runs on WORST POSSIBLE scenario: the Xorg nightmare, the biggest piece of **** I've ever met for a graphical GUI. A massive resource hog, unaccelerated on the Pi.
So no AROS on the Pi. Forget about getting anything usable from this hosted thing.
Risc OS is a way better OS anyway.
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@gaula92
sorry but AROS hosted is faster than normal linux desktop... except... well except on the Pi.
Broadway X is very enjoyable on an Efika MX, where it was made on. Accidentally it works "somehow.." on a Pi too... now in this case trying it on a Pi make it look like crap... but hey.. use it on an Efika and it is worlds ahead of any distro out there in snappiness.
I tried to make people doing a lot less hype around the "upcoming" Pi.. Just on the paper it is electronical waste. And don't tell me it is cheap.. there where and still exist much more pleasant ARM devices available ot alibaba and co.
Buy an Efika or anything with an A8 or better ARM CPU.
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I think its an awful lot of fun for 35.00$
Has so many uses and people are already creating lots of great stuff for it.
Its a great platform for many hobby things, thats why its so popular.
Media centers, game machines, its fun seeing what everyone is doing with them,
kinda like back in the day when people did more than surf the internet and browse facebook with their appliance computers.
I like to see people be creative with computers. We need more of that.
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What do you expect on that hardware?. Cray performance?. You are just bashing for the sake of it. The pi is ideal for a hobby machine, not for a day to day work environment, period.
Wrong. Try a real desktop OS on it (stock Linux kernel + Xorg is pure bloatware, and this is coming from a daily Linux user) like Risc OS and you will see it IS viable as a day to day work enviroment. There is a lot of great productivity software on Risc OS wich FLIES on the Pi.
sorry but AROS hosted is faster than normal linux desktop... except... well except on the Pi.
With accelerated Xorg (ie hardware scaling and blitting) it may be. But I hope Xorg NEVER gets accelerated on the Pi and we finally get Wayland instead. X is the problem: the Rpi is a perfectly capable machine.
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I have a raspberry pi for quite some time now. I tried only a few things till now, but it is great. I used it about a few hundred hours for video playback in FullHD using raspbmc which is a XBMC port.
It works so great and is amazing. With all the addons available it got better and faster than any smart-tv I saw so far.
The best thing the installation was is so easy. You simply download this file: http://download.raspbmc.com/downloads/bin/ramdistribution/installer.img.gz
decrunch it and (on MorphOS) copy the around 80MB it over to SD card in card reader using RAWDISK: device. I guess there is something similar to "dd" images to disk in OS4.
Thats all it needs. Just put back the SD card into the pi and it will download and install without any further user action. After around 10-15 minutes you have a proper and fast xbmc on your pi and anything can be configured by using cursor keys, return, c and ESC keys. Of course the mouse is supported, but I never used it.
I used some wireless keyboard with joystick mouse build in as remote. A full keyboard is quite nice, as you can jump to a specific file starting with a g using shift-g for example.
Raspbmc can handle nfs, smb and all other stuff needed to connect to servers and NAS systems, so you can stream from your NAS, Amiga or whatever without the need to copy anything onto the pi itself. It plays 1080P without any problems.
In fact it also creates a better picture on cheap tvs, as it scales on the pi to nativ television. Thats why I stream my recordings from hdd recorder to avoid the cheap telly activates his crappy scaler.
It plays nearly everything out of the box. Even raw satelite transponder files recorded by most hdd recorders. These contain non a/v related packages (epg, teletext, ...) which sometimes fail with other decoders. The pi does fine.
However to decode mp2 and wmv you need to order a licence as the raspberry foundation did not do that for a simple reason. It is ment for school and all recent codecs like h264 are available. The licence gets tied to your hardware. The price is 2$/3$ each, so not that hard, but compared to the price of the pi itself around 1/10 so its fine to keep hardware cheap in generel.
Before I forget. You can of course connect a digital tv box to the usb port of the pi and you will get a fully featured hd recording system. Isn´t that great?
USB Stick can be connected at runtime and the drive gets available automatically, so you can play and data located on that drive, too.
Addons like YouTube and media archives are available and so much fun. The YouTube thingy is the best I have seen so far. In combination with a keyboard its simply fun to search and watch all the stuff available.
And just remember only around 50 bugs (inclusing cable, powersupply and SD card) for it.
Speaking of SD card. Make sure you get a fast one. The size does not matter. Most stuff wll work with a 2GB card, but if the card is slow, then it makes no fun as you wait for loading a lot. Get at least a class 10 card to be happy. Just remember if you don´t plan to store any movies on the card, which I recommend, then get 2-8 GB cards. I was lucky to get a class 6 set (2x 16GB ySD + 2 ySD -> SD adapters) for 16 Euro, marked as class 6, which is hell faster than that. A Class 6 Sandisk is slow compared to that no fun.
Speaking about a desktop OS, especally the latest 512MB RAM version is great. I tried with the 256MB version before and it was fast and responsive. For usaually work like writing a letter or surfing the net quite nice for a cheap system like that.
Hope it gave you a little inspiration.
Geit
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I'm giving RiscOS a try on mine. Interesting stuff...
I finally tried out the RiscOS on mine. It's amazingly zippy compared to the linux versions for the Pi.
Haven't quite got the hang of the mouse yet, but the font rendering is amazing!
Like the built in editor, even if there is no syntax highlighting for python
Cons: Netsurf crashes if you have any bangs(!) in passwords.
That's it so far. Overall, the RiscOS is a much nicer fit for the pi than raspbian IMHO.
EDIT: I have the 'old' 256 meg version.
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What do you expect on that hardware?. Cray performance?. You are just bashing for the sake of it. The pi is ideal for a hobby machine, not for a day to day work environment, period.
I had some initial performance problems with my RPi due to the fact I was using a gaming mouse that was causing the CPU to spike to 100% whenever you moved the mouse. I was also using SD card that seemed to periodically lag. My initial first impression was not very good either.
Once I resolved those issues I started liking the device more.
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I had already pretty much settled on RISC OS. Sounds like the place to start, anyway - from the Pi forums. You all just locked it up.
This really does look like a lot of fun for $35.--