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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: amigakit on November 28, 2012, 08:20:13 PM
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We have the following Elbox products back in stock:
FastATA 1200 MKIV CF/SATA:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1052
FastATA 4000 MKVI **NEW**:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=381
Mediator 1200TX:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=789
Mediator 4000DI MKII:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=517
Mediator 40000D MKII:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=614
Spider USB:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=193
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Nice! my A1200T is on the way from ebay. Looking forward to push it to the limits.
Maybe you can answer my question, are these boards newly designed/made or they are old?
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These are newly manufactured boards.
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These are newly manufactured boards.
I have one question toward this product http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1052¤cy=CAD
If I can use it directly into my A1200 Desktop would it really produce this speed 16.6MB/s promised by Amiga 1200? Would it fit directly? Would I need to do some modification to the card, like cut some corner in order for it to work or is it plug and play any average joe following the manual (it will come with a manual, right?) instruction can install it and it is ready to go?
I have my eyes on it...
eeeek I read this review from AmigaKit website directly:
"(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/pixel_trans.gif)After weeks of banging my head against the wall I finally managed to get this working with the help of the English Amiga Board. The guys here tried their best to help me but it all came down to one thing. The socket that snaps over the Gayle chip needed significant modification (no doubt voiding the warranty) to get it to make proper contact with the board. This involved scraping with a sharp blade around the edges and inside of the socket to give more clearance. It's good but not great for the money and hassle i've experienced. Hence 3 stars. Your milage may vary though."
If AmigaKit PROMISE ME THAT THEY WILL DO the scraping and modification where it can fit directly over Gayle chip where I do not have to do scraping and voiding my warranty and possibly even damaging it...I will order it. What do you say AmigaKit?
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The FastATA will fit in a desktop A1200 assuming you remove or modify the upper RF shielding.
It fits into the ROM sockets and the ROMs fitting into the FastATA.
16.6MB is the maximum speed obtainable - your results will probably be less and is dependent on CPU speed and other factors. In my Amiga, for example, the hard disk achieves around 9MB / sec with FastATA.
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If AmigaKit PROMISE ME THAT THEY WILL DO the scraping and modification where it can fit directly over Gayle chip where I do not have to do scraping and voiding my warranty and possibly even damaging it...I will order it. What do you say AmigaKit?
You should never scrape a chip's legs- if the contacts are dirty, use a fine brush and IPA (isopropyl alcohol)to clean the contact points.
What warranty do you have on your Amiga? Surely it has expired after 20 years..
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The FastATA will fit in a desktop A1200 assuming you remove or modify the upper RF shielding.
It fits into the ROM sockets and the ROMs fitting into the FastATA.
16.6MB is the maximum speed obtainable - your results will probably be less and is dependent on CPU speed and other factors. In my Amiga, for example, the hard disk achieves around 9MB / sec with FastATA.
You SOLD ME!! Since it fits on the ROM socket and no longer Gayle....it means it solved the problem with earlier version...BEAUTIFUL! HEY, even if achieves 5 Mb/sec it is better than the original IDE on my Amiga 1200.
With this card and new file system and using hamp I CAN ENJOY my Amiga 1200 as a multimedia system :D :D.
I am going to put it in my cart and pay for it when I receive my money.
One more question AmigaKit :). When I receive my Apollo 1240 it would come with one RAM socket making it 32 MB. If I send you my card, pay for shipping and handling both sending and receiving and for the service of modifying the card, can you add another socket for RAM turning the 1240 from 32 MB Max to 64 MB max. I believe 64 MB is AN EXCELLENT amount of RAM and can never go wrong with that, 32 MB is a little short of RAM space.
Also can you upgrade it from 1240 to 1260 and overclock it? I just need to know.
Thanks in advance.
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I think you have misunderstood: the adapter still fits over Gayle also. Read the product description on our website. The small board pictured is the Gayle adapter.
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I think you have misunderstood: the adapter still fits over Gayle also. Read the product description on our website. The small board pictured is the Gayle adapter.
But then the guy in the review said he had issue installing it into the Gayle. Is that problem solved?
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There are lots of different A1200 revisions and at least three different Gayle chip manufacturers I can think of, so maybe that was the issue.
On my A1200 motherboard it fitted straight onto the chip without issue.
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There are lots of different A1200 revisions and at least three different Gayle chip manufacturers I can think of, so maybe that was the issue.
On my A1200 motherboard it fitted straight onto the chip without issue.
If I purchase the item and for some reason I have the misfortune to having the Gayle chip with that issue, can I then send you the card to make it work with the Gayle chip? Again, I am willing to pay for shipping handling and service fee. I just do not believe I am capable of making it work like that guy in the review did.
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Yes we offer a motherboard fitting service.
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Yes we offer a motherboard fitting service.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I feel safe and comfortable ordering it. :)
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Thank you for servicing the community. It's always great to see new hardware available for the classics.
To Elbox: Please create more A2000 parts.
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Thanks AmigaKit, x-mas times soon so can't run around buying all I want now but I hope you still got the FastATA left in Jan so I can get one :)
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@amigakit
perhaps you as reseler would actually be in position to persuade elbox to release thir pci libraries code under some open source license. it would likely speed up adaptations of new drivers for mediator boards, and perhaps reduce burden of software maintenance on the side of elbox themselves. im talking mostly with aros68k in mind (where there is some half a way implementation already), but i guess it might suit all. selling spider usb may be easy money, but likely mediator itself would still sell much better if more and cheap hardware was available for it off shelf. im of course just putting this under consideration.
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@amigakit
perhaps you as reseler would actually be in position to persuade elbox to release thir pci libraries code under some open source license. it would likely speed up adaptations of new drivers for mediator boards, and perhaps reduce burden of software maintenance on the side of elbox themselves. im talking mostly with aros68k in mind (where there is some half a way implementation already), but i guess it might suit all. selling spider usb may be easy money, but likely mediator itself would still sell much better if more and cheap hardware was available for it off shelf. im of course just putting this under consideration.
I've often thought along these lines. If Elbox had a multitude of dirt cheap PCI cards that could plug into the Mediator then they should be able to sell a shed-load of Mediator expansion boards at a good price rather than try and sell a limited number of PCI cards at an inflated price.
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@darrin:
it would also be fair and improve their image and acceptance of their products in the scene.
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@darrin:
it would also be fair and improve their image and acceptance of their products in the scene.
When you're in business, "fair" is defined by the owner of the company. ;)
If the expansion cards were cheap then they would offer real value for money with regards to the daughter board (especially compared to what Zorro II/III cards sell for) and there would be no excuse for "big box" owners not wanting to buy one.
Unfortunately for the A1200, it also needs a cheap replacement case option. Something for The Daddy to think about? :)
What's the going rate at the moment for a Zorro RTG card, Deneb, IDE controller, sound card, network card, etc off eBay? If PCI replacements were available dirt cheap then they could probably increase the price of the Mediator busboard and still sell them in bulk.
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Well I personally do not blame them for their inflamed prices. Consider the narrrow market for theire products. It is a whole different story when you produce something in mass numbers (Like PC motherboards and graphic cards and studd) compared to a single batch of production.
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who is blaming whom?
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Not really a blame is involved. Looks like Darrin is not happy with the prices, I just say prices seems reasonable for this market.
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Well I personally do not blame them for their inflamed prices. Consider the narrrow market for theire products. It is a whole different story when you produce something in mass numbers (Like PC motherboards and graphic cards and studd) compared to a single batch of production.
I don't blame them for making money either (and I've bought a lot of Elbox stuff). I just think they could change the model for how they make it and make less off the cards and more off the busboards. I love my Mediator and I'd like to see more people using them, but in order to justify buying one you have to look at the total cost of the busboard plus all of the PCI cards you want to use.
I should point out that I have a couple of no-name ViRGE cards ripped from old Pentium 1 PCs that work great with the Mediator, and the same goes for my Soundblaster card. The one card that tends to upset most people is the Spider because you either have to buy the Elbox card or get someone to do some serious hacking to make the off-the-shelf cards fool the drivers.
I've got both, the $10 hacked card and the $80 Spider and they both perform the same. Mind you, they're both less than what a second hand Deneb goes for.
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Not really a blame is involved. Looks like Darrin is not happy with the prices, I just say prices seems reasonable for this market.
I have no personal problem with the prices, but I can see why people with less to spend on their Amiga do. I bought an AmigaOne X1000 and I don't consider it cheap, but I do consider it worth the price.
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Anyway, we've wandered off topic. The thread is about Ebox hardware being in stock at AmigaKit and as a Mediator user I can highly recommend the Mediator with a 256MB Radeon card, Soundblaster and Spider USB. They're worth the money.
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for classic i wouldnt necessarily reccomend radeon as it has no warp3d support. the only card with 3d support is voodoo, and elbox cannot do anything on this subject, since they dont own the code. here could aros68k/gallium/wazp3d come into the game.
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Nice news!