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Title: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: yell0w_lantern on November 19, 2012, 06:29:29 PM
I have found a number of tutorials for using a large hard drives and one tutorial for using a gb SD card in a real Amiga 1200. I have been unable to get either a 4gb or a 16 gb SD card to work using the tutorials. Both are Sandisk.
 
I can get them to show up in Win UAE but not on my A1200. In fact, it won't boot at all using the SD cards.
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: browny on November 19, 2012, 06:36:37 PM
Try another IDE to cf card adapter because there a lot of bad ones about,how are you prepping the card?
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: Matt_H on November 19, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
Technically, cards of that size aren't "SD", but "SDHC". The IDE adapter you're using might not support SDHC.
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: browny on November 19, 2012, 07:49:55 PM
Yes try compact flash much better option
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: yell0w_lantern on November 19, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
I used diskpart to clean the MBR off the card.
 
On WinUAE with Classic Workbench, I replaced the SCSI.device, renamed the SCSI device name to uaehf.device and enable Smart File Format. I made the first partition below 600mb then made the other partitions and set them all up for SFS and deleted FFS. Then I formatted using SFSformat. Finally, I copied the system files of Classic workbench over to the first partition of the card.
 
Do I need to snip a pin somewhere. I've seen that mentioned.
 
Also, I heard CF cards were pretty finnicky.
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: browny on November 19, 2012, 09:06:35 PM
Quote from: yell0w_lantern;715755
I used diskpart to clean the MBR off the card.
 
On WinUAE with Classic Workbench, I replaced the SCSI.device, renamed the SCSI device name to uaehf.device and enable Smart File Format. I made the first partition below 600mb then made the other partitions and set them all up for SFS and deleted FFS. Then I formatted using SFSformat. Finally, I copied the system files of Classic workbench over to the first partition of the card.
 
Do I need to snip a pin somewhere. I've seen that mentioned.
 
Also, I heard CF cards were pretty finnicky.

trust me compact flash are the best no mucking about with uncompatible adapters and snipping pins(not needed) I see you have seen some youtube tuts some are good but to be honest it gets complicated when start renaming stuff you dont need to do that when partitioning SD or cf problems easily arise when trying to boot on a Amiga.
And download easeus partition home(free one) then you dont have to muck about with diskpart much simpler and all with the mouse, any help just ask.
And use Dopus to copy your winuae system to cf its bullet proof !
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: mechy on November 20, 2012, 12:58:37 AM
Quote from: yell0w_lantern;715731
I have found a number of tutorials for using a large hard drives and one tutorial for using a gb SD card in a real Amiga 1200. I have been unable to get either a 4gb or a 16 gb SD card to work using the tutorials. Both are Sandisk.
 
I can get them to show up in Win UAE but not on my A1200. In fact, it won't boot at all using the SD cards.
 
Did you set max transfer correctly on the sd?

If that is not the problem i would suspect the ide to sd adapter. They are not all created equal,wired correctly or even made well. If you are using a SDHC card your adapter must support SDHC also.

Its not so much a case of cf or sd being picky,some cards simply do not follow the standards correct. sandisk is usually a good bet to work if you didn't buy fake ones off ebay or somewhere.
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: yell0w_lantern on November 20, 2012, 03:36:56 AM
Quote from: mechy;715789
Did you set max transfer correctly on the sd?

If that is not the problem i would suspect the ide to sd adapter. They are not all created equal,wired correctly or even made well. If you are using a SDHC card your adapter must support SDHC also.

Its not so much a case of cf or sd being picky,some cards simply do not follow the standards correct. sandisk is usually a good bet to work if you didn't buy fake ones off ebay or somewhere.

Max Transfer rate 0x1fe00
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: kronuz on November 20, 2012, 07:24:25 AM
I took a hammer to all my CF cards earlier this year...yeah that's right - Back to le olde spinning pleasure.

Never had so little trouble or effortless fun with the amiga.
If your cards work, then great !

.. If not: You know what to do :destroy:
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: browny on November 20, 2012, 07:27:59 AM
Quote from: kronuz;715834
I took a hammer to all my CF cards earlier this year...yeah that's right - Back to le olde spinning pleasure.

Never had so little trouble or effortless fun with the amiga.
If your cards work, then great !

.. If not: You know what to do :destroy:


I hope you have brushed them gnashers this morning kronuz !!:)
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: kronuz on November 20, 2012, 08:37:05 AM
Quote from: browny;715835
I hope you have brushed them gnashers this morning kronuz !!:)

yah...but oh so gentle. Still bleeding from yesterday:laughing:
If I only had crowns, I would dare to chew up all the dodgy CF-adaptors in the world ! gnarlgnarlrnrnrlnlnr.
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: som99 on November 20, 2012, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: kronuz;715834
I took a hammer to all my CF cards earlier this year...yeah that's right - Back to le olde spinning pleasure.

Never had so little trouble or effortless fun with the amiga.
If your cards work, then great !

.. If not: You know what to do :destroy:


Id rather use decent Flash based PATA devices due to access time (I also hate spinup time).
So ill keep buying those damn PATA SSD's, but boy are they expensive sometimes :/
Next im getting a 128GB PATA SSD for my MorphOS Mac mini :D

It's getting more and more uncommon with PATA SSD (or any kind of PATA drive in general)
So im thinking of stocking up next year :)
Title: Re: Help Using a Large SD Card
Post by: lionstorm on November 20, 2012, 09:23:01 PM
I bought the pcmcia + CFCARD and the IDE adapter + CFCARD from Amikit and got zero problem (and the bundles even include EasyADF software).
both CFCARD are Sandisk Ultra 4 Gb (labelled 30MB/s)...