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Title: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems. - (SOLVED)
Post by: som99 on November 16, 2012, 10:30:51 PM
Hey all, I am in some trouble, I have now obtained a second drive for my A1200 and I have a 4xEIDE'99 interface.

After I installed the EIDE'99 software all connected drives show up in the software and I restart, then bam no boot, just stuck at grey/black-ish screen forever.

If I exclude (semicolon) the "C: 4xEIDE.driver QUIET" the miggy starts and loads WB but only on the primary port and no other drives are found.

If I put the CF card with the "C: 4xEIDE.driver QUIET" line intact in WinUAE WB loads without any problems and I get the "I can't find 4xEIDE Buffered Interface!" message and then it loads just fine.

So something is up with the software and I do not know why, ive tried to change a lot of things in the Startup-Sequence without success.

Im using ClassicWB ADVSP and this is my Startup-sequence.

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ACATune -maprom * -cache on -burst on >NIL:
;ClassicWB Startup-Sequence
;--------------------------
;FULL ADV ADVSP UAE 3.1

C:4xEIDE.driver QUIET

IF EXISTS DEVS:scsi.device
  C:LoadModule DEVS:scsi.device
EndIF

C:GetMouseInput LOCAL

IF $MouseInput EQ 1
  Unset MouseInput
  C:SetPatch QUIET
  C:Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:
  C:Assign >NIL: T: RAM:
  C:Execute S:Maxmem-Sequence
  EndCLI >NIL:
EndIF

IF $MouseInput EQ 2
  Unset MouseInput
  C:Execute S:Bootmenu-Sequence
  EndCLI >NIL:
EndIF

Unset MouseInput

C:SetPatch QUIET

IF EXISTS C:StackAttack
  C:StackAttack
EndIF

C:Version >NIL:
FailAt 21

IF EXISTS SYS:WBstartupD
  C:Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartup SYS:WBStartupM
  C:Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartupD SYS:WBStartup
EndIF

Resident >NIL: C:IconX PURE
Resident >NIL: C:WBRun PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE

IF EXISTS L:env-handler
  C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards
  L:env-handler
  C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC:Sys/def_kick.info ENV:Sys/def_kick.info
ELSE
  C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
  C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
  Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
EndIF

Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

IF EXISTS C:BlazeWCP
  C:BlazeWCP
EndIF

IF EXISTS SYS:System/FBlit/FBlit
  SYS:System/FBlit/FBlit
  SYS:System/FBlit/FText
ELSE
  C:Copy >NIL: SYS:Prefs/Presets/Newicons.prefs ENV:Newicons.prefs
EndIF

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
  IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
    DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
  EndIF

  C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
  Execute T:M
  C:Delete >NIL: T:M
EndIF

SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

IF EXISTS C:IconBeFast
  C:IconBeFast 0
EndIF

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
  Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

IF EXISTS C:StackAttack
  C:StackAttack AUTO
EndIF

C:CardReset TICKS 50
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID B2_private_0B KEY 8426464417

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:


Anyone have any input, I would love to see someones elses Startup-sequence with a 4xEIDE device and working WB.

I would love help sorting this out so I can start working on the second disks structure :)

Edit: Need this working as I was planning to start to work on my A1200 PATA DVD drive mod, so if someone solves this ill send them a 40 or 44-pin CF PATA adapter free of charge as a thanks :)
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: Thomas on November 16, 2012, 11:22:04 PM
Quote
IF EXISTS DEVS:scsi.device
  C:LoadModule DEVS:scsi.device
EndIF


Either delete scsi.device from Devs: or remove this section completely.
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 16, 2012, 11:28:10 PM
Quote from: Thomas;715224
Either delete scsi.device from Devs: or remove this section completely.


Ive already tried both but still no boot :/
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 17, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
Do no one here have a 4xEIDE and use EIDE'99 software?
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: ChaosLord on November 17, 2012, 05:32:13 PM
I have 1997 edition, sorry.
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 17, 2012, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;715328
I have 1997 edition, sorry.


Dang :( Well I hope someone can enlighten me since it seems ive tried everything :(
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: Marcel21674 on November 18, 2012, 09:37:42 AM
Stupid question maybe, but are the master and slave jumpers set correct on the drives?
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: browny on November 18, 2012, 11:03:57 AM
have you got the master on the 2.5" and one on port 0, these will conflict if not configured correctly best to either use either Port 0 (2.5") and port 1(3.5") both as master check your mountfiles in devs to make sure everthing is correct.
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 18, 2012, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: browny;715441
have you got the master on the 2.5" and one on port 0, these will conflict if not configured correctly best to either use either Port 0 (2.5") and port 1(3.5") both as master check your mountfiles in devs to make sure everthing is correct.


Master is set correctly and I can use the boot drive on either 2.5" port and port 1 3.5".
But as soon I install EIDE'99 my miggy stays at black screen when started, removing the EIDE lines from startup makes the machine boot but then I only see primary master drive on port 1.

Tell me what's supposed to be in devs and mountlist for EIDE'99 to work since I do not see anything missing, so if yopu tell me I can check if it's present or not.

Thanks for your input
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: browny on November 18, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
I have a clean install on cf will go and check and get to you
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 18, 2012, 02:20:10 PM
Quote from: browny;715459
I have a clean install on cf will go and check and get to you


Thank you, and you havet the same 4xIDE adapter with EIDE'99?
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: browny on November 18, 2012, 03:06:51 PM
Hi yes I have 4xEIDE99 same as you with have you read the HD setup part in the readme on the disk cos there is a set procedure for adding a second disk.
Also regarding the devs folder you would prob have a CD0, PIPE, CCO ect but the EIDE99 software automatically configures Hard drives so long as you have setup correctly on the Hardware but will crash if not
regarding the SSequ if you open up ED and check the EIDE99 is at the top of the startup-sequence which is correct, and as you prob already know you wont be able to run the 4xEIDEprefs if there is other software collidiing with it like. eg IDEfix,Also have you tried it without the ACA tune maprom lines removed?
Also where is the{ sys:Prefs/4ExIDEprefs} in your SS ? its in mine
And also I lost count of the number of times I had non booting probs, and all it was is the Adapter on the adapter IDE pins/port not seated down correctly, bad design:(
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 18, 2012, 05:34:13 PM
Quote from: browny;715468
Hi yes I have 4xEIDE99 same as you with have you read the HD setup part in the readme on the disk cos there is a set procedure for adding a second disk.
Also regarding the devs folder you would prob have a CD0, PIPE, CCO ect but the EIDE99 software automatically configures Hard drives so long as you have setup correctly on the Hardware but will crash if not
regarding the SSequ if you open up ED and check the EIDE99 is at the top of the startup-sequence which is correct, and as you prob already know you wont be able to run the 4xEIDEprefs if there is other software collidiing with it like. eg IDEfix,Also have you tried it without the ACA tune maprom lines removed?
Also where is the{ sys:Prefs/4ExIDEprefs} in your SS ? its in mine
And also I lost count of the number of times I had non booting probs, and all it was is the Adapter on the adapter IDE pins/port not seated down correctly, bad design:(


Thank you for your response, everything is seated properly,  I have to have the aca line in top of the ssequence tho I have not tried to remove the maprom function, I will try that when I get home from work.
I do not have IDEfix and EIDEpress do not collide with anything when I run it before restart.

I have not gotten the sys:~ line in ssequence ever when installing, I will also try to add that when I get home.

I hope the maprom function is not the problem tho since it speeds up quite a bit.

You have been most helpful, thanks a lot I will get back to you when I have tried all.
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: browny on November 18, 2012, 05:43:16 PM
Also IDEmax will work with this adapter and the prefences prog is excellent for configuring your drives,and I dont unerstand why it does not install EIDE99 prefs ? surely this is required
good luck
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 18, 2012, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: browny;715488
Also IDEmax will work with this adapter and the prefences prog is excellent for configuring your drives,and I dont unerstand why it does not install EIDE99 prefs ? surely this is required
good luck


I don't understand it either, I will try to install all manually and see if it works.
If all fails I will try IDEmax.
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 18, 2012, 09:33:44 PM
Wohoo problem solved!
Thanks a bunch browny, the thing that was missing was the "sys:4xEIDEprefs" from s-sequence.

That I could never have guessed since the installation never ever made that line, also the documentation do not even mention it when doing manual install... Strange since I had to have that line there to get it to work!

Many hours looking for errors for a simple line in Startup-sequence and fixed!

PM me what adress you want a CF to PATA/IDE adapter shiped to as a thanks for your help!
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: browny on November 18, 2012, 10:57:07 PM
Thats great news bud been there done that with probs lol
Nah thanks for the cable offer but dont need one give to a amigan who does bud :)
all the best
browny
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on November 18, 2012, 11:25:22 PM
Quote from: browny;715554
Thats great news bud been there done that with probs lol
Nah thanks for the cable offer but dont need one give to a amigan who does bud :)
all the best
browny


Thanks again browny, ill keep an eye out for anyone needing the adapter :)
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: zoranari on January 01, 2017, 11:02:08 AM
Hello,

I have a question.

i have 4xEIDE'99 interface and
Im using ClassicWB ADVSP,and the thing that is missing is the "sys:4xEIDEprefs" same as you

Can you please show your Startup-sequence?

I do not know where to place it.:confused::confused::confused:

Thank you
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: Pat the Cat on January 01, 2017, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: zoranari;818607
Hello,

I have a question.

i have 4xEIDE'99 interface and
Im using ClassicWB ADVSP,and the thing that is missing is the "sys:4xEIDEprefs" same as you

Can you please show your Startup-sequence?

I do not know where to place it.:confused::confused::confused:

Thank you

I am guessing, just after the IDE99 software driver is run...

C:4xEIDE.driver QUIET
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: zoranari on January 01, 2017, 07:20:22 PM
Thanks that was the problem :laugh1:

This is what i did,

C:4xEIDE.driver QUIET
sys:Prefs/4xEIDEprefs



Thanks
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on January 01, 2017, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: zoranari;818607
Hello,

I have a question.

i have 4xEIDE'99 interface and
Im using ClassicWB ADVSP,and the thing that is missing is the "sys:4xEIDEprefs" same as you

Can you please show your Startup-sequence?

I do not know where to place it.:confused::confused::confused:

Thank you


Just put C:4xEIDE.driver QUIET in the beginning of the Startup sequence :)
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: zoranari on January 02, 2017, 08:11:45 AM
That was not the problem i have the line

C:4xEIDE.driver QUIET

but not the

sys:Prefs/4xEIDEprefs

to start my cd

Thanks:)
Title: Re: 4xEIDE'99 interface problems.
Post by: som99 on January 02, 2017, 08:26:56 AM
Quote from: zoranari;818689
That was not the problem i have the line

C:4xEIDE.driver QUIET

but not the

sys:Prefs/4xEIDEprefs

to start my cd

Thanks:)


Haha sorry was a bit tired when I wrote so I copied the wrong line and missed there where new posts :)