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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: timsutton on October 01, 2012, 03:08:20 PM

Title: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: timsutton on October 01, 2012, 03:08:20 PM
Hi forum,

In a past life I hoped I'd be an Amiga enthusiast, and came upon a 4000 being put out to the trash by a university AV lab.

Years later, I never got together the proper hardware to play with it and am trying to reduce my possessions, and so I'm selling it AS-IS on eBay. I've never been able to test the hardware or verify a working OS on the drive. But, I thought this forum might be interested to know about it.

PM me if you want to make an offer outside of eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-4000-040-with-Video-Toaster-4000-341mb-disk-and-2x-DPS-TBC-Rev-4-cards-/261106226380
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: LoadWB on October 01, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
hehehe from the auction:

"A4000:
s/n 000667"

667 - the neighbor of the Beast.

It's a pretty looking unit.  I suspect you'll have no trouble getting it into a good home.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: esc on October 01, 2012, 05:12:41 PM
Aw man, I was hoping this would stay under the radar since I'm the highest bidder :)

If you want to sell it without the toaster or dbs par cards, and make some sort of a deal with that, let me know.  I already have a toaster and am not sure what the dbs par cards are really for anyway.  :)
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: Ami_GFX on October 01, 2012, 05:31:13 PM
The DPS cards are Time Base correctors. The clean up the video signal input into them and output it with a rock solid time base which the toaster requires. The DPS IV are among the best made. Now that analog SD video is going out of fashion, they are not worth so much these days but you will need at least one for working with the toaster. A lot of the the newer HD video equipment doesn't do that good a job of scaling the HD video to the composite out and I find that I need a TBC for most of my satellite and DVD video sources these days to get the the toaster to sync to it.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: esc on October 01, 2012, 06:11:36 PM
Ah, that's interesting.  Thanks :)  Maybe, in that case, we could work out a deal where I take the a4000 and 1 of the dbs cards, and you can sell the other card and the toaster card separately?

Otherwise I may or may not continue to bid on eBay.  :lol:
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: esc on October 01, 2012, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: Ami_GFX;709997
The DPS cards are Time Base correctors. The clean up the video signal input into them and output it with a rock solid time base which the toaster requires. The DPS IV are among the best made. Now that analog SD video is going out of fashion, they are not worth so much these days but you will need at least one for working with the toaster. A lot of the the newer HD video equipment doesn't do that good a job of scaling the HD video to the composite out and I find that I need a TBC for most of my satellite and DVD video sources these days to get the the toaster to sync to it.

This is awesome help by the way.  I wonder, is there some sort of a guide out there for how to use a Video Toaster with devices available today?  I love the videos that the toaster makes but I have no idea how to use it.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: whiteb on October 01, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
To the OP,

Looking at the pictures, chances are it has the full 16MB of Fast ram, and 2MB of Chip.  That was all the 4000's were capable of addressing from the Motherboard slots, no matter what you put in the slots.  

If you put 5x32MB in the slots (5 slots, one for chip ram, 4 for Fast), all that is addressed, is 4x4MB and 1x 2MB.

Nice machine, is quite the find.

My guess would be the machine sat in the corner, and people came and went, and ultimately they had a clear out, and someone said, what is this "Amiga" thing ?  And all they got was a Shrug and a "I dunno", and it got tossed.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: whiteb on October 01, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: esc;709999
This is awesome help by the way.  I wonder, is there some sort of a guide out there for how to use a Video Toaster with devices available today?  I love the videos that the toaster makes but I have no idea how to use it.


Well, You need a copy of Lightwave, and it went hand in hand with the Video Toaster.

It was no secret, that The Pilot and parts of the First season of Babylon 5 used a network of A4000's with the full suite of Video Toaster Hardware (Which the DPS TBC was part of), or it was at least used in conjunction with.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: persia on October 02, 2012, 01:57:35 AM
The main issues with Video Toaster are that it's analogue 3 by 4 at an extremely low res 480i....
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: BartmaNBrowN on October 04, 2012, 05:54:00 AM
Hey, why did you end the listing? I would have bought the whole "kit and Kabutle" from ya :-)
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: timsutton on October 05, 2012, 02:30:07 AM
Quote from: BartmaNBrowN;710227
Hey, why did you end the listing? I would have bought the whole "kit and Kabutle" from ya :-)


Sorry! I sold it off-auction.

I still have the toaster and one TBC card if anyone would like to PM me offers.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: Darth_X on October 08, 2012, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: timsutton;709987
Hi forum,

In a past life I hoped I'd be an Amiga enthusiast, and came upon a 4000 being put out to the trash by a university AV lab.

Years later, I never got together the proper hardware to play with it and am trying to reduce my possessions, and so I'm selling it AS-IS on eBay. I've never been able to test the hardware or verify a working OS on the drive. But, I thought this forum might be interested to know about it.

PM me if you want to make an offer outside of eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-4000-040-with-Video-Toaster-4000-341mb-disk-and-2x-DPS-TBC-Rev-4-cards-/261106226380



Aww Man.. I just noticed this was for sale in Canada. You NEVER see A4000s for sale in Canada, at any price! argh! And I was looking on ebay for stuff like this all last week and nothing!
Title: Re: FS: Toaster and DPS TBC card
Post by: timsutton on December 04, 2012, 04:47:53 PM
The A4000 and one TBC card has been sold, but I've still got the Toaster card and one TBC card left. Anyone interested?
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: nevergone on May 26, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Hello, I would like to know if you still have the Toaster and the TBC (and how much are yo asking for them and if we could do it inside ebay). I need to work in PAL mode, but think it is possible to get some NTSC-PAL converters out there. Please let me know if you have any suggestions about that.

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: danbeaver on May 26, 2013, 05:11:21 PM
As noted prior, analog video editing is not much in vogue. This means Toasters and TBC's are very inexpensive. The manual can be downloaded, and a full CDROM install of software is not much either. I know of an A2000 with 68040+32MB,  Toaster, TBC IV, Indivision ECS, 1 GB HDD, and Retina RTG card for sale around 550 USD. Full 4.2 software and manuals.   The whole system is all working.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: amiman99 on May 26, 2013, 07:09:56 PM
Quote from: nevergone;736023
Hello, I would like to know if you still have the Toaster and the TBC (and how much are yo asking for them and if we could do it inside ebay). I need to work in PAL mode, but think it is possible to get some NTSC-PAL converters out there. Please let me know if you have any suggestions about that.

Thank you very much.
Video Toaster is NTSC only, I don't think converters would work with it.
# of lines is different, refresh rate is different and color frequency is different.
Title: Re: FS: Amiga 4000/040 with Toaster and 2 DPS TBC cards
Post by: direktorn on May 26, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
So the "The A4000 and one TBC card has been sold" and the one year old post did not draw any attention? :banana: