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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: lassie on September 30, 2012, 10:03:46 PM

Title: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on September 30, 2012, 10:03:46 PM
Hi i was thinking putting this in my Amiga 4000. i have a couple of them for my Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200. Can i put them directly in the 4000 or do i need a cable or something to get it to work? I have seen them who sells them that there are the 1200 version and 4000 version Compact flash drive.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: Darrin on September 30, 2012, 10:08:41 PM
It should connect to your A4000 internal IDE connector in the same way it connects to your A1200.  I use one on my A4000, but I have it connected to Zorro IDE card and I've disabled the motherboard IDE connector.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on September 30, 2012, 10:13:28 PM
Quote from: Darrin;709927
It should connect to your A4000 internal IDE connector in the same way it connects to your A1200.  I use one on my A4000, but I have it connected to Zorro IDE card and I've disabled the motherboard IDE connector.


Okay many thanks i will try it then :) i was just wondering about does who sell them, says you must choose either the 4000 version or 1200 version
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: LoadWB on September 30, 2012, 10:14:37 PM
Check this out.

Amiga 4000 Desktop CompactFlash Modification
http://alan2.me/a4000flash/
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: Darrin on September 30, 2012, 10:31:00 PM
Quote from: lassie;709929
Okay many thanks i will try it then :) i was just wondering about does who sell them, says you must choose either the 4000 version or 1200 version


LoadWB has already posted on a SCSI version if you have a CPU card with a SCSI controller.  If you want to attach one to your existing IDE controller and you don't fancy tracking down one that works and then installing your OS onto it then check out AmigaKit:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=883

They'll supply the adapter, a card and pre-format it for you.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on September 30, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
Quote from: Darrin;709931
LoadWB has already posted on a SCSI version if you have a CPU card with a SCSI controller.  If you want to attach one to your existing IDE controller and you don't fancy tracking down one that works and then installing your OS onto it then check out AmigaKit:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=883

They'll supply the adapter, a card and pre-format it for you.


Many thanks :) and a very fair price at AmigaKit i must say
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on September 30, 2012, 10:43:17 PM
Quote from: LoadWB;709930
Check this out.

Amiga 4000 Desktop CompactFlash Modification
http://alan2.me/a4000flash/


Thanks mate :)
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: LoadWB on September 30, 2012, 10:55:49 PM
Quote from: Darrin;709931
LoadWB has already posted on a SCSI version


Actually that is IDE.  None the less, AmigaKit does have pre-made setups for you.  That guide was done years ago when people were just experimenting with CF cards in "classic" systems.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on September 30, 2012, 11:00:15 PM
Quote from: LoadWB;709935
Actually that is IDE.  None the less, AmigaKit does have pre-made setups for you.  That guide was done years ago when people were just experimenting with CF cards in "classic" systems.


Okay but it was nice to see how it was done. My Amiga 4000 is the only Amiga i have, i have not taken apart, so cool to see some inside pic :)
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: LoadWB on September 30, 2012, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: lassie;709936
Okay but it was nice to see how it was done. My Amiga 4000 is the only Amiga i have, i have not taken apart, so cool to see some inside pic :)


Glad it was informative.  Now that SSDs are coming down in price and I can get working IDE->SATA adapters, I've considered going to SSD.  However, to take full advantage of such a setup the standard on-board IDE would have to be upgraded using the PIO2 update or an IDEFix,

I found a good SCSI->SATA adapter for around $150.  While that adds a hefty price tag to a hobby project, using an SSD with an accelerator's SCSI interface would be the better performance option versus the on-board IDE.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: djos on October 01, 2012, 01:55:46 AM
Quote from: lassie;709926
Hi i was thinking putting this in my Amiga 4000. i have a couple of them for my Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200. Can i put them directly in the 4000 or do i need a cable or something to get it to work? I have seen them who sells them that there are the 1200 version and 4000 version Compact flash drive.
Amigakit have one specifically for the 4000:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24_94&products_id=883

It has the large CD-Rom style molex connector and a 40pin IDE connector.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on October 05, 2012, 02:02:15 PM
Hi i have now tried to get my CF cards to work on my Amiga 4000. but i can not get it to work at all, there is only black screen when i try. But when i put my old seagate hard disk  back in it works fine. i have bought a CF STARTER KIT for AMIGA 600/1200/4000/CD32 ATARI FALCON and tried that but i did not help.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on October 05, 2012, 03:26:03 PM
Hi guys do you know what a 40pin IDE to CF adapter with external power connector at the bottom looks like? I been told i need that for connect it to my 4000
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: Thomas on October 05, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
This one replaces a harddrive, i.e. you need an IDE cable and it mounts somewhere internally: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_intern_91645/merkmale.html

This one mounts directly on the IDE controller (don't know if it fits into an A4000): http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_intern_91647/merkmale.html

This one is like the first one (needs a cable) but mounts into a free expansion slot so that you can change the CF card from the outside: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_intern_91624/merkmale.html

All of them have a power connector similar to that of a floppy drive. You might need an adapter like this one: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_726_Stromkabel_82111/merkmale.html
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on October 05, 2012, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: Thomas;710399
This one replaces a harddrive, i.e. you need an IDE cable and it mounts somewhere internally: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_intern_91645/merkmale.html

This one mounts directly on the IDE controller (don't know if it fits into an A4000): http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_intern_91647/merkmale.html

This one is like the first one (needs a cable) but mounts into a free expansion slot so that you can change the CF card from the outside: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_intern_91624/merkmale.html

All of them have a power connector similar to that of a floppy drive. You might need an adapter like this one: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_726_Stromkabel_82111/merkmale.html


Hi many thanks :) i have the first one you put out. were do i get the power from the Amiga. from the motherboard
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: Thomas on October 05, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
Power comes from the power supply, not from the motherboard. If you replace the harddrive you can use the power connector which was plugged into the harddrive with the adapter mentioned above.
Title: Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000
Post by: lassie on October 05, 2012, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: Thomas;710415
Power comes from the power supply, not from the motherboard. If you replace the harddrive you can use the power connector which was plugged into the harddrive with the adapter mentioned above.


Thanks for your help :-) i got it to work, it is quite cool with OS 3.9