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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Pyromania on September 25, 2012, 06:35:57 AM

Title: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: Pyromania on September 25, 2012, 06:35:57 AM
http://www.zdnet.com/hitachi-reveals-storage-medium-that-lasts-hundreds-of-millions-of-years-7000004714/
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: klx300r on September 25, 2012, 07:06:33 AM
funny how my old Vic20 and C64 datasette tapes and 5.25" floppies still work great after 29 years but CD's I made 9 years ago are 85% bad:pissed:

personally I don't trust any of the flash memory technology for long term storage. I sometimes get scared thinking that all my kids photos since birth are on digital media which will eventually go bad while my parents have cherished family photos from over 100 years ago still in decent shape:idea:
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: MiAmigo on September 25, 2012, 07:21:26 AM
Quote from: Pyromania;709318
http://www.zdnet.com/hitachi-reveals-storage-medium-that-lasts-hundreds-of-millions-of-years-7000004714/


Sounds like crystal skull technology to me! ;)
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: commodorejohn on September 25, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
Beats the hell out of "the cloud."
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: Megamig on September 25, 2012, 12:35:16 PM
Nice. But it will never be sold to the public. Why would all those media companies risk the billions they make to sell media that last this long?
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: runequester on September 25, 2012, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: Megamig;709340
Nice. But it will never be sold to the public. Why would all those media companies risk the billions they make to sell media that last this long?


And my wife keeps insisting that planned obsolescence isn't real
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: som99 on September 25, 2012, 03:32:10 PM
40MB per square inch is decent and in par with the CD media so for me to store all my Amiga related media, manual collections, books, games, software, magazines, video etc etc will require me to get 55000 square inches (inch², inch^2) of quartzglas and est weight of 265kg wow :O
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: Thorham on September 25, 2012, 03:58:10 PM
Quote from: klx300r;709321
funny how my old Vic20 and C64 datasette tapes and 5.25" floppies still work great after 29 years but CD's I made 9 years ago are 85% bad:pissed:

Funny how my 8 year old CDs are all 100%. Perhaps it has something to do with me keeping them in a completely dark environment.
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: klx300r on September 25, 2012, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: Thorham;709356
Funny how my 8 year old CDs are all 100%. Perhaps it has something to do with me keeping them in a completely dark environment.

well you might be lucky and reach the 10 year mark but I'd be making quite a few backups if the info on those CD's are important to you
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: orange on September 25, 2012, 07:26:01 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;709318
http://www.zdnet.com/hitachi-reveals-storage-medium-that-lasts-hundreds-of-millions-of-years-7000004714/


bah, its not rewritable! :)
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: paul1981 on September 25, 2012, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: orange;709373
bah, its not rewritable! :)

That's the whole idea! :laugh1:
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: Kawazu on September 25, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
Its about time, my last hitachi disk did not even last 2 years :pissed:
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: lassie on September 25, 2012, 11:31:24 PM
Quote from: klx300r;709321
funny how my old Vic20 and C64 datasette tapes and 5.25" floppies still work great after 29 years but CD's I made 9 years ago are 85% bad:pissed:

personally I don't trust any of the flash memory technology for long term storage. I sometimes get scared thinking that all my kids photos since birth are on digital media which will eventually go bad while my parents have cherished family photos from over 100 years ago still in decent shape:idea:


I have many tapes and 5.25 floppies for my Commodore and some are well over 20 years old and they almost all work now :) i find that quite amazing
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: lassie on September 25, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
Quote from: Kawazu;709396
Its about time, my last hitachi disk did not even last 2 years :pissed:


It strange but new hard disks fail fast i have 5 there are around 20 years old and they still work. but many new do not last more than 5 years. Do you think they are cutting corners now and use cheap material to make them these days. It is the same with Playstation 2 and DVD players, they rarely work more than 5 years before they break down
Title: Re: Save your Amiga software collection for millions of years!
Post by: paul1981 on September 26, 2012, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: lassie;709398
It strange but new hard disks fail fast i have 5 there are around 20 years old and they still work. but many new do not last more than 5 years. Do you think they are cutting corners now and use cheap material to make them these days. It is the same with Playstation 2 and DVD players, they rarely work more than 5 years before they break down

I think the disk thrashing of Windows and maybe other OS's too (can't speak for them) kills hard disks (VM etc). File fragmentation will also reduce the life just as much. And then you have to remember that they're packing 200GB on a disk that 20 years previous held just 20MB, so tolerences are thousands of times tighter now.