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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: MiAmigo on September 12, 2012, 06:48:00 AM

Title: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: MiAmigo on September 12, 2012, 06:48:00 AM
Out of all of the companies still making Amiga hardware, why is it that no one is making a new, replacement Amiga floppy drive? Don't they know that there's a fortune to be made? "They" could basically set their own price for a fully functional error free Amiga floppy! I personally would pay ANY price to have a few for my three Amigas!

(Now, if there IS someone making such a floppy drive - please tell me now so I can hold back this month's mortgage!)
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: Dr.Bongo on September 12, 2012, 08:44:15 AM
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=106
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: MiAmigo on September 12, 2012, 08:56:32 AM
Thanks! I'm on it, Red 2!
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: MiAmigo on September 12, 2012, 09:19:51 AM
Now, as to the stack of non-functioning ones I have: Should I keep them, sell them, toss them, or give them away? At last count I think at had at least 4, maybe 5.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: psxphill on September 12, 2012, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: Dr.Bongo;707791
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=106

drive bay ones are trivial to convert yourself. it's the lack of compatible eject switches for a500/a600/a1200 that is the problem.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: CritAnime on September 12, 2012, 03:50:24 PM
There was someone on ebay selling refurbished drives. If he still is or not I don't know. Might be worth a check. In the end I never bothered replacing my old drive after the second one.  I just went to emulated drives. However this means I now have games that are essentially useless.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: freqmax on September 12, 2012, 03:53:15 PM
Why are the games useless?
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: Mrs Beanbag on September 12, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
I managed to hack an A500 drive into an A1200 case once.  Required trimming the case a little bit because the eject button is in a slightly different place.

One day I will go back to it and replace it with a converted PC drive, by cutting the case up some more to allow a standard 3.5" drive bezel to poke through.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: psxphill on September 12, 2012, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Mrs Beanbag;707835
One day I will go back to it and replace it with a converted PC drive, by cutting the case up some more to allow a standard 3.5" drive bezel to poke through.

I was thinking about getting a model made so the eject buttons for various drives could be 3d printed.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: runequester on September 12, 2012, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: MiAmigo;707794
Now, as to the stack of non-functioning ones I have: Should I keep them, sell them, toss them, or give them away? At last count I think at had at least 4, maybe 5.


Forgive me if this is a stupid suggestion but have you tried cleaning them? Old floppy drives have a habit of getting gunked up.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: nyteschayde on September 12, 2012, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: psxphill;707864
I was thinking about getting a model made so the eject buttons for various drives could be 3d printed.

You mean like this one for the A3000?
http://www.shapeways.com/model/310385/amiga-3000-disk-drive-eject-button.html
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: MiAmigo on September 12, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: runequester;707866
Forgive me if this is a stupid suggestion but have you tried cleaning them? Old floppy drives have a habit of getting gunked up.

There's an idea - and something I actually had n considered. What would be the best method to clean them?
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: CritAnime on September 12, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: freqmax;707830
Why are the games useless?

Well they are not useless. It's the wrong word to use. Should I say the aren't useful for my Amiga 600 as the emulated drive runs off a sd card. I can still play them on the 1200 but I don't get it out regular enough.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: MiAmigo on September 12, 2012, 10:46:42 PM
While we're on the subject of the floppy drives, what about the floppies themselves?

Age, time, and electromagnetic fields have also made them fickle!

Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. And just when you've given them up for being dead, voila! - they start working again!

The person who can come up with a way of fixing these - at home - could make millions!
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: CritAnime on September 13, 2012, 04:25:14 AM
I have had to throw loads of floppies away as they refused to work. And this is after trying them numerous times. Most failed to load at all a couple worked for a little while then refused to load when trying to load a second level for example.

Much like my c64 tapes age and environmental conditions get the better of them eventually.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: danbeaver on September 13, 2012, 08:55:44 AM
The floppy drives can be cleaned and aligned at home, although the ability of the heads to read and write may go bad.

The floppies themselves are not affected by household magnetic fields, but over time the magnetic coating becomes less adherent to the plastic disk, with double density faring the worse than high density.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: k4lmp on September 13, 2012, 01:36:35 PM
I had one just yesterday, which was new (NOS) I guess, that I had put data on, in the last month.  Put it in the drive, UNREADABLE.  Did a format, put the data back, it is fine.  I just wonder how long it will last this time.  I may look at one of the virtual floppies when funds are available.  They look complicated, though.
Title: Re: The Ubiquitous & Fickle Amiga Floppy!
Post by: danbeaver on September 13, 2012, 06:31:53 PM
Check the floppy box for the date of manufacture. If it is greater than ten years start anticipating problems. Disks exposed to prolong heat and cold (garage) will fare much more poorly.