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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: MiAmigo on September 01, 2012, 06:52:37 AM
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Just completing repairs on one of my A2000's. Installed Workbench 3.1, and now contemplating re-installing 0S 3.9. I'm also thinking about installing it on my other newer (to me at least!) A2000, which is actually running WB 1.3 from a hard drive. (Got both from eBay, the newest one with the older version of WB was nabbed last week.)
My question is: Do I really need to install 3.9 or any GUI? I had it before, but all I really did was 'look' at it. I had even given it a NIC (X-Surf) for Internet and local network capability, a media player for my network stored media files, a graphics accelerator, and a bunch of other cool stuff. But, again, all I ever really did was look at it, and marvel at the fact that we (my Amiga and I!) were ever even able to do any of that cool stuff at all!
This time, I'm only planning on playing old Amiga games, and not much more than that, MAYBE network (so I can move files back and forth), that's about it, I guess.
So, do I really need a full GUI for that? Is there some cool 'other' GUI out there that I should know about, or consider trying? I wonder...
:idea:
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That's a heck of a system to just play games on.
You might as well just have an A500, and it'd be more compatible.
Swap you? :)
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That's a heck of a system to just play games on.
You might as well just have an A500, and it'd be more compatible.
Swap you? :)
Ha-ha! When I originally built it a few years ago, I was eager for all the bells and whistles, and it was pretty cool, and lots of fun to set up. But now, I don't know...
When I troll the Internet, I see tricked out systems that make me want to fully restore mine, and then sometimes I feel like I just want to play my floppy based games, and that's all. Since I actually have 2 A2000s now, I was thinking of keeping one as floppy-based, and leaving the other one (the one I'm referring to here) with all the goodies intact.
What I'm willing to bet I'll ACTUALLY do is convert BOTH of them to GUI-based systems (The second, newer one has a hard drive, but no CD). As Captain Picard would say, 'In for a penny, in for a pound!'
:afro:
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Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to upgrade old Amigas ... but since when has that mattered? :)
I have all sorts of Amigas (NG and Classic) but they all have their own uses, so I use whichever I want at a time. At the moment I'm playing with PowerPC MacOS 8.6 on my A4000 - just because I can. Not because I especially want to run MacOS, but because I like tinkering with it. There's a great sense of satisfaction from getting old machines to run stuff they were never designed to, and that's what you get from running AmigaOS - the ability to tinker and play around. Games are good but limiting; when you're messing around with the OS you can be creative and push boundaries. That's where the fun is for me.
So stick to AmigaOS; you can always install a Mac emulator or a PC bridgeboard if you want to run esoteric OSes, and it's still in your beloved A2000. Best of both worlds. :)
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I totally agree! I had a dog once (beagle) whom it used to amuse me to make him walk on his hind legs - on command! Not very practical for him, but provided endless hours of enjoyment for me, especially when I would send him into another room walking that way just to startle people!
Looks like I'll be installing an OS - on BOTH of them, after all!
Now, the only problem is, which OS?
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3.0 or 3.1 is probably a good spot, since a fair deal of applications will rely on it.
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Just completing repairs on one of my A2000's. Installed Workbench 3.1, and now contemplating re-installing 0S 3.9. I'm also thinking about installing it on my other newer (to me at least!) A2000, which is actually running WB 1.3 from a hard drive. (Got both from eBay, the newest one with the older version of WB was nabbed last week.)
My question is: Do I really need to install 3.9 or any GUI? I had it before, but all I really did was 'look' at it. I had even given it a NIC (X-Surf) for Internet and local network capability, a media player for my network stored media files, a graphics accelerator, and a bunch of other cool stuff. But, again, all I ever really did was look at it, and marvel at the fact that we (my Amiga and I!) were ever even able to do any of that cool stuff at all!
This time, I'm only planning on playing old Amiga games, and not much more than that, MAYBE network (so I can move files back and forth), that's about it, I guess.
So, do I really need a full GUI for that? Is there some cool 'other' GUI out there that I should know about, or consider trying? I wonder...
:idea:
Softkick 2.0 ROM and install at least 2.05
With softkicked 3.1 ROM you can install 3.1,3.5 or OS 3.9
depending on your CPU and FAST RAM.
3.1 with ScalOS is good balance.
DO NOT TRY AROS 68k it will not work!
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One machine has kick 3.1, the other still has an earlier version (1.3, I think) but I'm upgrading that one later. My accelerated processor (GVP G-Force 68030) is fast enough - I guess. If its not, I have a much faster accelerator card (detailed in my signature) with more RAM.
I have OS 3.9, but I've already been told that that version is only 3.1 with lots of extra 'stuff' added.
What's the deal with AROS 68k? Why won't it work? :nervous:
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Dont Need to Pay Attention to what VOX posts. he has a Habit to Post about what he has no Idea about. What concerns aros on your setup it should work, but will be currently Slow with anything that involves GUI operation. Running stuff from Shell is better usable. Loading programs is slower but execution will be of similar Speed as otherwise. Also Not all programs will work or work completely. Thats try and error at the Moment. Especially bootloader Games that Bang the Hardware. System conform Applications are better Off. I have Posted some links to Videos about aros68k on my a4k, but you will have to search for thrm yourself. Im on a Tablet just now.
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What's the deal with AROS 68k? Why won't it work? :nervous:
Yeah don't mind VOX, he has a thorn in the side to everything that is not "teh r33l"
To put it another way he's not exactly used to thinking "outside the box".
Of course you should try AROS, otherwise you wouldn't know what it is right ?
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Do I really need to install 3.9 or any GUI?
Considering that AmigaOS/Workbench 3.x is TINY, there's very little reason not to install it.
It's not like it's going to fill your HD and it makes launching some apps easier, even if that's all you ever do with it..
Now, I haven't used 3.5/3.9, so I'm not sure there..
3.1 does everything I need and ClassicWB does it purty like. ;-)
desiv
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If your Amiga still has Kick 1.3, have a look at Daves Jazzbench (on some fish disk). I loved it.
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Stick with 1.3 and get JazzBench http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/JazzBench
I loved this, before AmigaOS 2.0 came out.
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Harsh opinions about the 2000 considering that its a solid machine that greatly surpases the 1000.
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Harsh opinions about the 2000 considering that its a solid machine that greatly surpases the 1000.
Hi,
In which way does the A2000 surpass the A1000?
Expansion slots!!!! My A1000 had expansion out of the yin yang, with the side panel!!
smerf
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Hi,
In which way does the A2000 surpass the A1000?
Expansion slots!!!! My A1000 had expansion out of the yin yang, with the side panel!!
smerf
Clock, Zorro slots, Video slot, more RAM onboard ... even 020 model (2500?)
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Clock, Zorro slots, Video slot, more RAM onboard ... even 020 model (2500?)
Had a clock with my spirit board, didn't need zorro slots since I had the side expansion slot, the spirit ram board I believe came with a clock and 2 megs of ram, also had put in a mod to make it go to half brite mode. Man I wish my wife didn't accidently throw out my A1000 when we moved, it was my hottest machine. Also had a 68030 Accelerator that plugged right into the 68000 slot.
But you are right on the video slot, because come to think of it my A2000 had the video toaster.
smerf
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I like 3.1, never made it to 3.9, 3.5 convinced me it was just fluff and since I was on the cutting edge back then I was cut severely.