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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Ben3000 on August 24, 2012, 09:23:25 AM
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I've recently been lucky enough to aquire an Amiga 500 through freecycle. I originally wanted to run OctaMED on it, but after doing a bit of research I've been lead to believe that the 500 simply isn't up to it.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some music creation software that's known to run on the 500. I'm not specifically looking for a tracker, just something I can use as a tool to squeeze some nice tones out of Paula. I've seen a dodgy Youtube video that suggests Music-X might be what I'm looking for?
Thanks in advance!
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For using just samples and Paula an earlier version of OctaMED is probably your best bet on an unexpanded 500. V4 was the last version to work on Wb1.3 I think. For chip tunes there is also MusicLineEditor (which needs less memory than OctaMED)
Music X is purely MIDI I think but I've never seen it because it is quite rare.
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Thanks for steering me away from Music-X! You might saved me a lot of time finding that out the hard way.
Sorry, I should of said I've got WB 1.2. Is that going to limit my compatibility with OctaMED v4? Also I have got something plugged in the trap door. I *think* it's RAM (it's not labelled in any way) but not sure how much. MusicLineEditor sounds interesting.
Does OctaMED have a built-in sampler or does it just work with pre-recorded samples off a disk?
Thanks,
N00b
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Thanks for steering me away from Music-X! You might saved me a lot of time finding that out the hard way.
Sorry, I should of said I've got WB 1.2. Is that going to limit my compatibility with OctaMED v4? Also I have got something plugged in the trap door. I *think* it's RAM (it's not labelled in any way) but not sure how much. MusicLineEditor sounds interesting.
Does OctaMED have a built-in sampler or does it just work with pre-recorded samples off a disk?
Thanks,
N00b
OctaMED has everything you need, I used to use Music-X sometimes for MIDI... But eventually just used OctaMED for that too...
You will need a sampler harware device to use with OctaMED, to make your own samples... Otherwise just download samples from Internet or your PC/Mac/etc
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You will need a sampler harware device to use with OctaMED, to make your own samples... Otherwise just download samples from Internet or your PC/Mac/etc
This is my other problem.. Getting software/samples onto the machine. I'm very happy to sample via an audio input onto the 500 forever more, but I have no way of getting the software from my Mac/PC onto the right format of floppy for the Amiga to run. From what I've read I'm starting to wish I'd just bought an A600 (for the internal HDD trick).
If OctaMED v4 will work with WB 1.2 on my 500, is someone willing to copy and mail me a disk of it? For a price obviously ;) I have quite a few Amiga disks that came with the machine that I can send to copy the software onto if need be.
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Personal message me your address and I can send you the last compatible version to work with 1.2 if I can find it in my old disks.
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Personal message me your address and I can send you the last compatible version to work with 1.2 if I can find it in my old disks.
I'd include a copy of crossdos (or whatever it was called) too so he can then move data to/from the Amiga himself using DOS formatted floppies :)
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I'd include a copy of crossdos (or whatever it was called) too so he can then move data to/from the Amiga himself using DOS formatted floppies :)
Oh yes please! 4000 Amiga points to that man! It would stop me nagging the forum every time I wanted a new bit of software.
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I've recently been lucky enough to aquire an Amiga 500 through freecycle. I originally wanted to run OctaMED on it, but after doing a bit of research I've been lead to believe that the 500 simply isn't up to it.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some music creation software that's known to run on the 500. I'm not specifically looking for a tracker, just something I can use as a tool to squeeze some nice tones out of Paula. I've seen a dodgy Youtube video that suggests Music-X might be what I'm looking for?
Thanks in advance!
These are THE best music programs for an Amiga 500 computer:
- ProTracker
- Aegis Sonix
- Deluxe Music
- Bars & Pipes Professional
OctaMED sucks.
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For file transfer from PC->Amiga 2000 I did the following:
"Good 'ol DOS-2-DOS will do the trick coupled with TransDisk. Compress (with LHA)
and copy compressed ADF to DD-disk on PC, use DOS-2-DOS to make Amiga recognise PC floppy, uncompress the LHA-archive to RAM: and use TransDisk to write it to a Amiga DD floppy."
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From PC to Amiga is easy. Just burn the Amiga files to a CD. Attach a SCSI CD-Rom drive to the Amiga 500. Insert CD from PC and away you go.
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Yes but you'll need a cd-rom drive and interface for that...
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From PC to Amiga is easy. Just burn the Amiga files to a CD. Attach a SCSI CD-Rom drive to the Amiga 500. Insert CD from PC and away you go.
Then he need an external SCSI cd-drive first. Easier just doing it over null modem cable.
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Then he need an external SCSI cd-drive first. Easier just doing it over null modem cable.
For your average person (myself included), dos-2-dos/crossdos is by far the easier method for moving individual files. Sure, they may then want to investigate adf's, file compression or alternative methods (null modem etc) but none of these are as simple as just inserting a floppy.
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A CD-ROM would be a nice, but if I'm gonna spend any money I might as well just get a 600 for about the same price which would make everything a lot easier.
I have thought about the nullmodem route, but am I right in thinking I need a PC with a serial or parallel port on it to get it to work? Neither of which I have.
Enabling it to read MSDOS floppies sounds like it suits my needs. Hopefully someone can sort me out with crossdos or similar..? :D
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Yes but you'll need a cd-rom drive and interface for that...
All Amiga computer users should already have one. I personally would not use an Amiga computer without a ZIP drive and a CD-Rom drive.
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I've recently been lucky enough to aquire an Amiga 500 through freecycle. I originally wanted to run OctaMED on it, but after doing a bit of research I've been lead to believe that the 500 simply isn't up to it.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some music creation software that's known to run on the 500. I'm not specifically looking for a tracker, just something I can use as a tool to squeeze some nice tones out of Paula. I've seen a dodgy Youtube video that suggests Music-X might be what I'm looking for?
Thanks in advance!
A 1.2/1.3 based Amiga is more difficult to get stuff working on simply because the majority of software in use requires 2.0. Your A500 is up to it yes, but things would be easier with an A600.
There is this ADF transfer kit on ebay, which you may be interested in:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMIGA-PC-READY-TO-GO-ADF-TRANSFER-KIT-EASIEST-FASTEST-CHEAPEST-WAY-TO-DO-IT-/120968578852?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item1c2a4a0724
You'd need a pc with a compatible parallel port though, so you may want to seek advise about this before buying.
If you got this working though, you could easily write sound sample disks and Protracker/Octamed and any games you want etc all from your pc (if you have one that is).
If you had an A600 though and an internal hard drive, you could store all your samples on hard disk, and you'd never use a floppy again. You wouldn't need floppys because you could use a CF pcmcia card adapter (amigakit sell them, and plenty on ebay as well) for all your transfers from your laptop to your A600.
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For your average person (myself included), dos-2-dos/crossdos is by far the easier method for moving individual files. Sure, they may then want to investigate adf's, file compression or alternative methods (null modem etc) but none of these are as simple as just inserting a floppy.
Agree, tho im giving other options, using amiga explorer (you can get it free) then it's as simple as connect the cable start amiga explorer, insert a floppy in the Amiga then select an ADF and swoosh it's on floppy.
So it's quite simple and a great way for non HD equiped Amigas :)