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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: lassie on August 23, 2012, 06:17:05 PM
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Hey i been thinking what does a Graphics card in Amiga do? Do it give games better picture and more colour? or is it more for special made progarms.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=amiga+rtg+graphics+card
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=amiga+rtg+graphics+card
Thanks :)
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Hey Lassie,
You seem like a new Amiga user. I only say that because you've posted a lot of questions lately with some fairly legitimate fundamental questions.
There's an awful lot of great resources out there already that may already have the exact answers you are seeking. For instance, the Big Book of Amiga Hardware, AmigaWiki, etc.
Google can help you find many of these answers:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=amiga+rtg+graphics+card
Also, the "search" function here at Amiga.org can return a treasure trove of past threads on many of these fundamental topics. I'm sure we've discussed a lot of these probably a half a dozen times or more over the years.
Good luck with your Amiga exploration! Have fun!
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Hey Lassie,
You seem like a new Amiga user. I only say that because you've posted a lot of questions lately with some fairly legitimate fundamental questions.
There's an awful lot of great resources out there already that may already have the exact answers you are seeking. For instance, the Big Book of Amiga Hardware, AmigaWiki, etc.
Google can help you find many of these answers:
Also, the "search" function here at Amiga.org can return a treasure trove of past threads on many of these fundamental topics. I'm sure we've discussed a lot of these probably a half a dozen times or more over the years.
Good luck with your Amiga exploration! Have fun!
Hi i have a lot of Amigas, but i must admit i do not know much about them. But i will search some more here on amiga.org and see if i can find some answers and i will try that Big book of Amiga hardware also :)
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Don't let them put you off from asking questions, that is what a forum is all about. You have to start somewhere. Before there was the Internet there were magazines, user groups, and BBS's. Now almost no magazines, damn few user groups, rare BBS's, and only the net for many of us with questions
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If you have a ZIII based Amiga (Amiga 3000's or 4000's), you should look at a Retina Z3, Cybervision 64, Cybervision 64/3d, or a Picasso IV. They are the fastest cards.
If you have a ZII bus (2000) - A Picasso II is a good choice. Others may have other ones as well.
If your into games the video card will be of very little use, very few games actually use the video cards and use OCS,ECS, or AGA.
If you want to make a really nice workbench, enjoy productivity software, surf the web, etc. You really need a video card for the best results.
Have fun...
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For gaming, it's mostly not worth it. There were some games that will use it (Napalm, Quake and a few others) and a few games had RTG patches, but they are generally all "late" amiga games.
For general day to day use, it can be cool, if you find a cheap one. If you want a high resolution, 256+ colour workbench, it's generally the way to go (AGA can do 256 but it isn't fast)
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RuneQ ~ like your Avatar
Even if you get an RTG video card for "Productivity" (graphics, word processing, desktop publishing, etc), you can always fall back to a native Amiga graphic mode for "gaming." I use my Amiga mostly for the former, but I have the software for the latter when I'm inclined.
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For gaming, it's mostly not worth it. There were some games that will use it (Napalm, Quake and a few others) and a few games had RTG patches, but they are generally all "late" amiga games.
For general day to day use, it can be cool, if you find a cheap one. If you want a high resolution, 256+ colour workbench, it's generally the way to go (AGA can do 256 but it isn't fast)
Hi thanks for your answer :) i have been looking on ebay and such ,they are quite expensive around 200 dollars for a merlin graphics card and picasso
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Hi thanks for your answer :) i have been looking on ebay and such ,they are quite expensive around 200 dollars for a merlin graphics card and picasso
Indivision Flicker Fixer is more worth it for games that a graphics card which is really just a PC graphics chip on the amiga bus.
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Get an Indivison ECS, there are even Picasso96 drivers for it. :)
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With Picasso96 fakenative mode I could get some 30 - 40% of my games to play on PicassoIV screen. Not F1GP which I hoped most.
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Hi i found out that i have Indivison ECS in my amiga 600 i purchased a month ago :) what settings should i use for best picture? i have it connected to a 43 inch plasma screen and how about colours, i can see i can change that to. I dont know much about it i must admit
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Get an Indivison ECS, there are even Picasso96 drivers for it. :)
Not worth the $106.00 plus shipping that you would have to pay for one.
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With Picasso96 fakenative mode I could get some 30 - 40% of my games to play on PicassoIV screen. Not F1GP which I hoped most.
Interesting. How can I get fakenative to display through Mediator/Voodoo?
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Don't know if it works on Voodoo, principally you have to set a tooltype (was it fakenative=yes) and remove PAL/NTSC from the Monitors . Check the docs.
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RuneQ ~ like your Avatar
Even if you get an RTG video card for "Productivity" (graphics, word processing, desktop publishing, etc), you can always fall back to a native Amiga graphic mode for "gaming." I use my Amiga mostly for the former, but I have the software for the latter when I'm inclined.
Thanks :) It's our big cat "Scruffy".
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All you have to do is download this package, move the monitor driver to devs/monitors
http://aminet.net/package/driver/moni/HighGFX40_6
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Uh Dude, don't forget the RTGMaster system. It even works for OS 4.1 with a small fix.
[RuneQ, is Scruffy a Maine Coon?]
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Uh Dude, don't forget the RTGMaster system. It even works for OS 4.1 with a small fix.
The RTGMaster is really, really buggy...
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Uh Dude, don't forget the RTGMaster system. It even works for OS 4.1 with a small fix.
[RuneQ, is Scruffy a Maine Coon?]
He is maine Coon, or at least mostly :)
He's got a weird stubby tail but otherwise he's a giant cat-beast.
Maybe we need a cat thread on here.
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Hi thanks for your answer :) i have been looking on ebay and such ,they are quite expensive around 200 dollars for a merlin graphics card and picasso
Amiga graphics cards are very rare these days. Dont bother with it if you mainly play games and you are satisfied with low color (less than 64) Workbench. On the other hand if you want to do something more serious stuff on Amiga then graphics cards are must. They dont offer only more colours and better resolutions but graphics also is much faster than using native Amiga display modes.
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The RTGMaster is really, really buggy...
RTGMaster has never been buggy on my two A4000T's and A2500HD; I use it in OS 3.9 & OS 4.1 without problems.
[RuneQ, I've had 2 black male Maine Coons in the past 32 years and they were great!]
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To be slightly more on topic, are there any benchmarks out there comparing something like Doom in AGA versus RTG ? Same processor and RAM obviously
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All you have to do is download this package, move the monitor driver to devs/monitors
http://aminet.net/package/driver/moni/HighGFX40_6
Thanks i will try that :)
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I've seen quotes of Frame Per Second, but there are a lot of factors that play into those numbers and it comes down to what you consider playable on your system
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I've seen quotes of Frame Per Second, but there are a lot of factors that play into those numbers and it comes down to what you consider playable on your system
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yeah definately. It'd be nice to have something that was tested on the exact same system ,once under AGA and once under RTG, and see what we're actually dealing with though.
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I think there were some numbers on doom on an a600 with aca630 and indi ECS, can't remember where though.