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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: blakespot on August 19, 2012, 11:25:43 PM

Title: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: blakespot on August 19, 2012, 11:25:43 PM
I'll pay for the damned thing, but it seems I can't. I want to go that route for getting my '060 A2000 w/ Picasso II and 3.1 looking better. So what do I do?

Where can I get MagicWB and who can I (legitimately) pay for it, if need be?

Thanks.



bp
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: motrucker on August 20, 2012, 01:21:25 AM
Look at the dates on the thing. It's ancient, to be kind. I guess that's the problem.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: RMK305 on August 20, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
Search over on EAB as I'm sure I remember reading a post there about this very thing.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: Bamiga2002 on August 20, 2012, 06:25:59 AM
MagicWB 2.0r (http://www.fatcat.vispa.com/keyring/) it's the full version.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: nscaleworld on August 20, 2012, 10:44:36 AM
Remember: As soon as you install a graphics board, you can nolonger use Deluxe Paint. Also, you do not need a graphics board for MagicWB. It looks great at 640 X 400 resolution. You do need a Commodore A2320 Amber board, more important then a graphics board in an Amiga 2000. MagicWB only uses the standard 8 colors of Workbench.
 
Save your graphics board for Workbench 3.9.
 
THE most important board to get for an Amiga 2000 is a Commodore A2320 Amber board. This is a MUST-HAVE upgrade. It allows you to use standard VGA monitors, and it passes thru all of the Amiga 2000 computers native screen modes. The A2320 Amber board is such an important upgrade, that I have two of them for each of my Amiga 2000s. One is installed in each computer and one is a spare for each Amiga 2000.
 
If you use the Picasso II graphics board, use a Commodore A2320 FF/SD board and use the cable to hook it up to the Picasso II board. Then hook up your VGA monitor to the Picasso II. The A2320 is the best FF/SD board available for the Amiga 2000, nothing else even comes close.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: kolla on August 20, 2012, 12:59:37 PM
Quote from: nscaleworld;704381
Remember: As soon as you install a graphics board, you can nolonger use Deluxe Paint.


Sure you can, a graphics board does not prevent the native chipset from being used, just hook a video monitor to the native output. Deluxe Paint 5 also has an RTG mode, which is far from perfect, but it helps a little if you want to run it on RTG display.

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Also, you do not need a graphics board for MagicWB. It looks great at 640 X 400 resolution. You do need a Commodore A2320 Amber board, more important then a graphics board in an Amiga 2000. MagicWB only uses the standard 8 colors of Workbench.


Eh, and? There's no problem using MagicWB on graphics board, people even use MagicWB icons on MorphOS and OS4.

Amber is only important if you want to use OCS/ECS with a VGA monitor, nothing that blakespot has posted suggests that he has that need, he just want MagicWB on his PicassoII from what I can read.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: wawrzon on August 20, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
if someone manages to contact original autor, there is a plan to use this icon set for real hardware aros68k distribution, by olaf schoenweiss. please any hints either to him or to me. thanks!
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: cv643d on August 20, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: nscaleworld;704381
The A2320 is the best FF/SD board available for the Amiga 2000, nothing else even comes close.


Not really now that Indivision ECS is available.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: blakespot on August 20, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: nscaleworld;704381
THE most important board to get for an Amiga 2000 is a Commodore A2320 Amber board. This is a MUST-HAVE upgrade. It allows you to use standard VGA monitors, and it passes thru all of the Amiga 2000 computers native screen modes. The A2320 Amber board is such an important upgrade, that I have two of them for each of my Amiga 2000s. One is installed in each computer and one is a spare for each Amiga 2000.
 
If you use the Picasso II graphics board, use a Commodore A2320 FF/SD board and use the cable to hook it up to the Picasso II board. Then hook up your VGA monitor to the Picasso II. The A2320 is the best FF/SD board available for the Amiga 2000, nothing else even comes close.

Thanks, but I have an Indivision ECS, with its feed passing through the Picasso II into my 19" Sony G420 CRT. Works great.

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4122/4816469191_ef27a97fc4_n.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/4816469191/)

I keep the 1084S tied on as well, and use both screens for more fun with gaming and demos. :-)



bp
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: lionstorm on August 21, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
out of curiosity, can this A2320 board be plugged into a zorro4 slot in a towerized-A1200 ?
AFAIK my zorro4 has a video slot.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: zipper on August 21, 2012, 06:02:57 PM
There is actually no Zorro4, it's ZIV, which can be used to get PCI slots via Mediator PCI ZIV. So, for PCI hardware only. And Fast ATA ZIV connects to ZIV, too.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: lionstorm on August 22, 2012, 09:20:42 PM
well not exactly.
before the Mediator came in, Elbox released the winner Z4 board which has a video slot and that is why I am asking whether the A2320 could be plugged in...
see http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/eboxz4

and yes, I have this baby in my winner tower with a BPPC240/060+ with BVPPC !
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: zipper on August 22, 2012, 09:27:05 PM
You need the video slot enabler thingy.
Title: Re: So what's the deal with MagicWB?
Post by: slaapliedje on August 23, 2012, 01:11:13 AM
Back in the day, I ended up buying both MagicWB and MUI at the same time for a friend of mine.  I had it registered in my name, since I did buy it.  Didn't even have an Amiga to run it on.  So my friend used it for a while, but now he no longer has an Amiga, and I do (funny how that turned out) and lo and behold, I still had it burned to a backup CD of mine, so I still have my licensed version of MUI and MagicWB.

Sadly, I still don't really use MagicWB, since the A4000D had OS3.9 on it.  

But at one point in time I had been looking pretty long and hard at finding a MagicWB iconset for Gnome.  I always loved the icons, and the fact that they used 8 colors was amazing.

slaapliedje

Oops, forgot why I was replying.  Check out grafx2.  http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/downloads/list?can=2&q=label%3AOpSys-Amiga68k  Basically an open source version of Dpaint, and yes it does run natively on the Amiga 3.x even under RTG (at least I recall it working when I tried it).