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Title: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: on December 19, 2002, 08:22:17 PM
I have an Amiga 4000 rev B. No Zorro cards, exept a GVP A2000-HC+8 card with no extra ram.
Some time ago the card made the computer crash all the time, within 30 seconds the system hang. I tried reconfiguring the jumpers, but nothing helped. Then I set a jumper wich was not documented (j3), next to the  ID-jumpers and the Boot-jumper. Since than the card is not even recognized anymore.
I read somewhere, that I might have burned a trace on the A4000's daughterboard. The document said I should check pin 12 from the plug the motherboard to pin 12 on the zorro connectors one by one. I did that, and found out there was a  connection.So I gues it's a different problem.

Can some one help me with this PROBLEM?
 :-? 2
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: Darmaster70 on December 19, 2002, 08:31:11 PM
Look here for some technical info on that card.

http://www.l8r.net/technical/t-gvp-seriesii-jumpers.shtml
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: Darmaster70 on December 19, 2002, 08:36:04 PM
This may also be of some help.

http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search.pl?product=impact2000mk2

Did you install the software for that card???
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: on December 19, 2002, 09:34:25 PM
Yes. Software is installed. But there is no card even in the early startup window.
Look, I have checked all the jumpers of the SCSI card.
I don't know about the undocumented jumpers on the A4000.

I think the main thing is, why doesn't the A4000 doesn't see the card at all. Maybe there is a way of checking some hardware with software?  Some really great system monitor or something? I've got AIBB.
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: Darmaster70 on December 19, 2002, 09:57:11 PM
So how does your amiga perform without the card in it. Did you try a different slot. I'm sorry but i don't know that much about hardware. Just thought I would give you some suggestions.
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: Darmaster70 on December 19, 2002, 10:02:54 PM
So how does your amiga perform without the card in it. Did you try a different slot. I'm sorry but i don't know that much about hardware. Just thought I would give you some suggestions.
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: on December 19, 2002, 10:30:12 PM
Without the card: No problem, but no SCSI
Different slot: Same ####, no recognition.
It's like the card is not there.

I realy think something is broken, some sort of identification routine or somthing.
I know the card has power, because the power connector on the card worked. The CD-ROM was on. I could open and close the drive, Yippie.  :-(
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: Markus_Bieler on December 20, 2002, 09:26:25 PM
what tells showconfig? (sys:tools/showconfig)
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: on December 21, 2002, 12:55:27 PM
It sais "NONE". What else? (sorry, just getting bored with this problem.)

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Markus_Bieler wrote:
what tells showconfig? (sys:tools/showconfig)
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: vortexau on December 21, 2002, 03:13:29 PM
robsie said (of showconfig):
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It sais "NONE". What else? (sorry, just getting bored with this problem.)


Something wrong there; my A2000 shows:
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BOARDS:
 
 Board + ROM (HD?) (Great Valley Products):   Prod=2017/11($7E1/$B) (@$E90000 64K)

Sounds like your ZorroIII is not initalizing that board on start-up!
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: on December 21, 2002, 04:11:55 PM
Guess you're right.
Does anybody know, what could make the Zorro 3' init routine to fail?
Or maybe the board failes to be 'visible for the init routine?

What I think I need to know, is how exactly does the initialisation routine work? :-?
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: on December 21, 2002, 06:01:49 PM
Hi,
I have been reading messages on Amiga.org for some time, but never got around to register. Until today.
But your problem.
Do you have another zorro board to try. That way we can see if there is problem with the Riser-Board or the GVP card.
Try removing the Riser-Board and clean the contacts. This might help.
Jumper 3  on the GVP board is an autoconfig jumper. Try to set it again and see what happens.
I hope this helps.

Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: on December 22, 2002, 10:06:53 AM
I wish I had an other card to try, but I don't.
I know someone with an A4000 and zorrocards, but he doesn't live in the neighbourhood.

Try Jumper 3?
The artical I read, wich told about a problem like this, tryed this jumper and burned a trace in his daughterboard. Now you say I should try it again?
I must say 'autoconfig jumper' sounds allright. May be you are right, and I misunderstood the article, but ARE YOU SURE????!!!!
 :-o
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: on December 22, 2002, 10:33:43 AM
You have gvpscsi in workbench:expansion   ???
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: on December 22, 2002, 11:42:37 AM
Yes.
But do you need it there for the A4000 to see the card, or just to use it?
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: Kronos on December 22, 2002, 11:48:53 AM
AFAIR the GVP did use Z2-DMA just like the A2091, which won't work
with Z3 (atleast not if you don't have any memory in the Z2-area).

There was a firmware-replacement (GURU-ROM) by Ralph Babel (?)
that fixed that problem.

So might I asked you to check whats printed on the ROMs in your card ?
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn
Post by: on December 22, 2002, 12:02:10 PM
Yes.
But do you need it there for the A4000 to see the card, or just to use it?
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: on December 22, 2002, 12:06:47 PM
The GVP ROM:
V4.5       1992
DF24

When I just got the card, second hand, It worked more or less. I used a zip drive on it.
Title: Re: Amiga 4000 doesn't recognize GVP A2000-HC+8
Post by: Kronos on December 22, 2002, 12:13:10 PM
Did you put that undocumented jumper back into it's original position ?

If yes: You fried your board !

If no: Do it, and if it is back to it's former behaviour, try to find someone
with an A2000. If it works there, get the new ROMs (or you fried your A4k).
Iif it doesn't work: You fried your card.