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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: lassie on August 14, 2012, 11:28:53 AM
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Hi what do you think is the best Amiga monitor
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I've always liked the C= 1942. Handles all the AGA modes nicely, built-in speakers, easy to adjust the image to fit both the PAL and doublescan frequencies. If you're just going to play games or watch demos the C= 1084S is also a good choice.
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lassie, did you have problem with your LCD-TV and Amiga?
Last weekend I tried one LG TV with my A1200 and noticed that it doesn't have true scart. To connect them, I needed to use scart adapter and A1200 composite (not tv-tuner, that yellow one wich is left from it) to get picture to TV. That TV doesn't have RGB connected, only composite.
I used Nintendo Wii scart adapter.
Like this
http://www.preisvergleich.org/pimages/Cinch-Scart-Adapter_164__hm-00034389_40.jpg
Picture is useable, but not that good as with a real scart
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lassie, did you have problem with your LCD-TV and Amiga?
Last weekend I tried one LG TV with my A1200 and noticed that it doesn't have true scart. To connect them, I needed to use scart adapter and A1200 composite (not tv-tuner, that yellow one wich is left from it) to get picture to TV. That TV doesn't have RGB connected, only composite.
That is true scart. Someone told me the "composite sync" signal is "not bufferred", and the sync in the "composite" signal is, so tvs use a sync splitter internally with the "composite" signal in combination with the RGB signals. I did the same with my 1084s, combined with an LM1881 to make a "true SCART" connection so every console/home computer will work with it.
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lassie, did you have problem with your LCD-TV and Amiga?
Last weekend I tried one LG TV with my A1200 and noticed that it doesn't have true scart. To connect them, I needed to use scart adapter and A1200 composite (not tv-tuner, that yellow one wich is left from it) to get picture to TV. That TV doesn't have RGB connected, only composite.
I used Nintendo Wii scart adapter.
Like this
http://www.preisvergleich.org/pimages/Cinch-Scart-Adapter_164__hm-00034389_40.jpg
Picture is useable, but not that good as with a real scart
Hi many thanks i will try that :-) i think i have a scart adapter around somewhere
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Hi what do you think is the best Amiga monitor
i have to say the best amiga monitor is a indivision aga connected to a vga monitor ..since i upgraded to the indivision it just looks better ..
only my opinion ..
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There was a monitor called the Toshiba TIMM, which was great for amiga. 20" tube, all the way from 15khz up to a 1024x768. Hard to find, but I still have mine. Good for native modes and Dbl modes in AGA. input is VGA style but you just use the adapter.
In the day I had that plus a PC monitor for Picasso IV to do greater than 1024.
Nowadays I guess my opinion would change given the indivision and various other solutions. I'm a big fan of the original screenmodes though, and this monitor strikes a good balance between old school and modern.
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Never had one, but I know people who swore by the Nec Multisync 3D monitors...
I always wanted one of those..
desiv
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Nec 3D actual max resolution is 800x600, good reputation is because it was one of few monitors that supports native amiga modes.
I have had one, but with my current samsung tv I'm more than pleased to it. Picture quality is much better.
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I had a Nec 3D as well, but it was limited to 640x400 NTSC display via the Amber flickerfixer on my A2000. Its native 1024 x 768 was interlace only. The 800x600 might indeed have worked om some 1200/4000 modes
Tom UK
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Hi what do you think is the best Amiga monitor
Multisync, nowadays LCD
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Even the old commodore 1084's were quite good. Razor sharp image and all. That being said, between shipping costs and the fact that they are 20-30 year old CRT monitors, you might end up spending a lot of money for a monitor that can die at any moment.
These days, I'd get one of the LCD's that support the NTSC input and be done with it. Picture quality isn't quite as sharp, but it'll be cheaper in the long run.
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Even the old commodore 1084's were quite good. Razor sharp image and all. That being said, between shipping costs and the fact that they are 20-30 year old CRT monitors, you might end up spending a lot of money for a monitor that can die at any moment.
These days, I'd get one of the LCD's that support the NTSC input and be done with it. Picture quality isn't quite as sharp, but it'll be cheaper in the long run.
Yes you are right :-) it can be quite expensive to send a monitor, if i could find one local i would buy it but otherwise not
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I think the best depends on what you primarily want to do. These are my main monitors:
Sony PVM-20M2U: Pure 15kHz RGB monitor. Outstanding for WHDLoad gaming. No ghosting or perceptible lag, like a 20" 1084 only much better.
Eizo L367: 15" TN LCD from mid-2000's era. This one connects to my A2000 with a Picasso IV. Despite its small size, this is the absolute best monitor I've used for a Workbench display on a non-emulated Amiga. 1024x768 is razor sharp perfection, due in part to the very high quality output of the PIV. The panel handles 50Hz just fine, so games look reasonably good thanks to plenty of adjustment range via the OSD (no banding), and vibrant colors with only minor smearing.
Iiyama VisionMaster Pro 17: Diamondtron CRT PC monitor from 1998. This one is connected to an A4000 also with a Picasso IV, and is simply the all-around nicest CRT I've ever used with any Amiga. Sharp text (for a CRT), nice color, both games and Workbench look phenomenal. I have the PIV programmed for a 75Hz PAL display, which gives an almost synced output for long-haul gaming, without burning your retinas at the default 50Hz.
I also have a small hoard of NOS CRTs, and keep a few 1084's around since they still come in handy from time to time. Keep in mind I live in the US, so it's a little harder to find a decent monitor thanks to no SCART and general lack of 50Hz capable displays.
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Mitsubishi 1431 multisync (Or one of many other Mitsubishis). The Commodore monitors were junk. Well ok... the old style 1084's were decent (the rest bad). I made a fair gain repairing all models over 10 years time. Still have my trusty Mitsubishi 22 years later.
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Mitsubishi 1431 multisync (Or one of many other Mitsubishis). The Commodore monitors were junk. Well ok... the old style 1084's were decent (the rest bad). I made a fair gain repairing all models over 10 years time. Still have my trusty Mitsubishi 22 years later.
The early 1084's with the Japanese tubes were definitely the best ones...
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not that hard to get good dotpitch on a 13-14" monitor. If you are into the warm fuzzy Amiga 15khz image and want something the works up up to SVGA modes, Toshiba TIMM is the best I've come across. NEC Multisync has a cold 15khz, better off using a TV.
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The first 1080's (Phillips) were also excellent Monitors.
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The Commodore 1960 is the best all-around Amiga monitor, handling all Amiga modes from all Amiga configurations while looking the part of an Amiga monitor. But useless today as most of them have failed.
Other than not working, it also lacks speakers.
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I have all the C= Commodore Monitors, and for my taste, the best is the C=1942, followed by C=1960 nice screen (the problem with this is no Audio). Later, the C=1084s. the Amiga 1080 its nice too, but is audio mono.
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Hi what do you think is the best Amiga monitor
The Commodore 1080 Amiga monitor is THE best monitor ever produced for the Amiga computers. This is not my opinion, it is a fact. The Commodore 1080 Amiga monitor was made in Japan and is extremely high quality. Many are still in use today, with the same bright, clear picture they had back in 1985. I have one sitting on my Amiga 2500 and it looks really nice.
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The Commodore 1960
The 1950 and 1960 were two of the poorest made monitors I'd ever meet in my repair career. They did handle all the Amiga modes, but what good is that if it's dead. The quality of all components including the flyback transformer were so poor that even after one was repaired it would not last long. IMHO, "shotgunning" the mother board and replacing most of the hundreds of components with higher quality stuff would make these monitors useful.
Not worth your money or trouble buying one unless you just want it for the collectors value. Trying to use one as a daily monitor will just bring you heart break one day. Can't recall total how many I eventually worked on, but there are maybe half a dozen out there in the wild that I repaired by upgrading several components including the flybacks. They *might* still be running. BTW the later model 1084S was almost as bad as the 19xx's (not the earlier 1084S, it was ok)
Plaz
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I would get one of the Indivision products (ECS or AGA) depending on what you have, then use a modern monitor. No special monitors, and if you are like me, you have several lying around. Or, you could get one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ARCADE-GAME-CONVERTER-CGA-RGB-YUV-EGA-to-VGA-GBS-8220-Promotion-/250899701935?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3a6ac9a0af I use one on my A500, and a regular VGA monitor. They work good for the price, but, the Indivision option is cleaner, and all internal to the Amiga.
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The 1950 and 1960 were two of the poorest made monitors I'd ever meet in my repair career. They did handle all the Amiga modes, but what good is that if it's dead. The quality of all components including the flyback transformer were so poor that even after one was repaired it would not last long. IMHO, "shotgunning" the mother board and replacing most of the hundreds of components with higher quality stuff would make these monitors useful.
Not worth your money or trouble buying one unless you just want it for the collectors value. Trying to use one as a daily monitor will just bring you heart break one day. Can't recall total how many I eventually worked on, but there are maybe half a dozen out there in the wild that I repaired by upgrading several components including the flybacks. They *might* still be running. BTW the later model 1084S was almost as bad as the 19xx's (not the earlier 1084S, it was ok)
Plaz
As I said, other than not working, these are fantasic monitors.
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The Commodore 1080 Amiga monitor is THE best monitor ever produced for the Amiga computers. This is not my opinion, it is a fact. The Commodore 1080 Amiga monitor was made in Japan and is extremely high quality. Many are still in use today, with the same bright, clear picture they had back in 1985. I have one sitting on my Amiga 2500 and it looks really nice.
Doomy - do you believe that there is a difference between your opinion and fact?
For what it's worth, I tend to agree that those 1080 monitors are very nice. If they have one downfall, it might be that they cannot always reach the Euro36 scan rates offered by the ECS chipset, so NTSC flicker in interlaced mode is about as bad as it can get.
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Hi what do you think is the best Amiga monitor
i'm not into retro enough to use a 13" fishbowl. so.. Dell
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58860
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The Commodore 1080 Amiga monitor is THE best monitor ever produced for the Amiga computers. This is not my opinion, it is a fact. The Commodore 1080 Amiga monitor was made in Japan and is extremely high quality. Many are still in use today, with the same bright, clear picture they had back in 1985. I have one sitting on my Amiga 2500 and it looks really nice.
Ok, if the question is in terms of quality, sure, the C=Amiga 1080 is the best. But if the question is in terms of practicality, for my taste, the Best is the C=1942.
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17" Nokia Valuegraph 417 TV
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You could always get an RGB-to-component transcoder and use a modern television.