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Title: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: lassie on August 10, 2012, 06:44:25 AM
Hi i have an Amiga 2000, with 2630 cpu, and i was thinking can i play AGA games on that setup? i also have 9 mb ram and 1 giga hard disk.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: LoadWB on August 10, 2012, 06:55:23 AM
No AGA chipset means no AGA-specific games.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: AndreasM on August 10, 2012, 06:55:48 AM
Quote from: lassie;702834
Hi i have an Amiga 2000, with 2630 cpu, and i was thinking can i play AGA games on that setup? i also have 9 mb ram and 1 giga hard disk.


No
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: zipper on August 10, 2012, 07:20:35 AM
...Alien F1 demo (AGA/RTG) did play on accelerated ECS A500 with 2 MB Chip...
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: Damion on August 10, 2012, 07:33:15 AM
Anyone here ever try it with a Retina Z2? :P
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: orange on August 10, 2012, 07:38:30 AM
Quote from: zipper;702837
...Alien F1 demo (AGA/RTG) did play on accelerated ECS A500 with 2 MB Chip...


most AGA games don't have ECS or RTG versions. so,  no.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: utri007 on August 10, 2012, 08:31:15 AM
Some AGA versions, aren't actually AGA versions ;) I mean that games like Jungle Strike AGA doesn't need AGA chipset actually, just 2mb chip
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: lassie on August 10, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: utri007;702845
Some AGA versions, aren't actually AGA versions ;) I mean that games like Jungle Strike AGA doesn't need AGA chipset actually, just 2mb chip


Thanks for your input :-)
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: amiman99 on August 10, 2012, 04:54:37 PM
Same for Primal Rage, it says AGA, but it works on A3000 (maybe A600, but I did not try) because it needs 2MB chip RAM.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: sim085 on August 10, 2012, 05:53:34 PM
I read on another thread that AGA should have been released in 1989 in order for it to make a real difference. In 1992 it was too late. Ideally the A3000 and A500+ should have been with AGA. Therefore wouldnt it be great if we could have our amihas as should have been? Is it really that hard to have/emulate AGA on pre 1992 amigas?
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: motrucker on August 10, 2012, 06:04:43 PM
Some will, some will not - depends on how the game was written. Some one really should create a data base of this topic.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: Lord Aga on August 10, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: amiman99;702889
Same for Primal Rage, it says AGA, but it works on A3000 (maybe A600, but I did not try) because it needs 2MB chip RAM.


It does indeed work on A600 with 2MB chip.
Also, some "AGA" games require 020+ CPU, but will work with ECS chipset.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: desiv on August 10, 2012, 06:55:27 PM
Quote from: Lord Aga;702906
It does indeed work on A600 with 2MB chip.
Hmm, I need to try that on my A500 with 2M Chip..
It's got no accelerator tho, so will be interesting..

I agree, a list of games and "actual" requirements would be awesome!!

desiv
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: paul1981 on August 10, 2012, 07:32:14 PM
Fightin' Spirit is another "AGA" game that runs on OCS/ECS. Very impressive game.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: runequester on August 10, 2012, 10:47:38 PM
1: Some games require AGA because they are AGA only titles (alien breed 3D f.x.)
 
2: Some games had both versions and would adjust to the chip set present (alien breed tower assault f.x.)
 
3: Some games were ECS games that required 2 MB RAM, so were sold as AGA to avoid A500 owners buying them (Dungeon Master 2 comes to mind)
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: gertsy on August 11, 2012, 05:22:28 PM
Never knew that.  Just assumed AGA meant you needed the Chipset.  But it makes sense.
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: gaula92 on August 11, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
Should "Dungeon Master 2" work on, let's say, a plain 68000 ECS + 2MB chip Amiga, then? Or does it contain 68020 code?
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: runequester on August 11, 2012, 05:40:51 PM
Quote from: gaula92;702999
Should "Dungeon Master 2" work on, let's say, a plain 68000 ECS + 2MB chip Amiga, then? Or does it contain 68020 code?


Im pretty certain I've read people running it on a 600 with 2 mb ram
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: Lord Aga on August 11, 2012, 05:47:36 PM
Quote from: desiv;702908
Hmm, I need to try that on my A500 with 2M Chip..
It's got no accelerator tho, so will be interesting..

I agree, a list of games and "actual" requirements would be awesome!!

desiv


Do try, it will be interesting to see for sure. But maybe it requires ECS.

Primal Rage on A600:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZA1nNBiCaA
Title: Re: AGA games on amiga 2000?
Post by: runequester on August 11, 2012, 06:00:57 PM
A decent list of games with minimum requirements would be cool.

Kickstart, RAM, chipset. NTSC/PAL. Maybe add WHDload RAM requirement to preload.

hmm