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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: lassie on August 06, 2012, 01:36:23 AM
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Hi guys do you know what is the rarest Amiga?
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Could you define "rarest?". That was a in production, a prototype, heavy modded?
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Hi an amiga there was in production
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The C= A4000T (not the Amiga Technologies one,) as far as I know.
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There are some oddball A2000s and A3000s(in Canada, at least) that have different numbers.
A1500 and A2500 models exist for sure, but I don't know if they're rare or not.
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Hi guys do you know what is the rarest Amiga?
Probably the UX models that came with AMIX operating system in addition to AmigaOS.
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I was gonna say the UX models. There was one, though it didn't work, at the college I went to. I have never seen one again in real life since.
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Were the unix models any different, hardware wise?
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Hi guys do you know what is the rarest Amiga?
The rarest Amiga models are:
Amiga 3000T-040 ( less then 1,000 were produced )
Amiga 4000T ( less then 1,000 were produced )
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The rarest Amiga models are:
Amiga 3000T-040 ( less then 1,000 were produced )
Amiga 4000T ( less then 1,000 were produced )
Are you sure it was a 1000? I think it was less than 80 for the A3000T. Even less for the A4000T.
Actually i think maybe 80 for the A3000T is a bit optimistic.
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Amiga UX Broshure
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Except for the tape drive it was a standard Amiga. The AMIX software is available as a 9 disk download. As I recall several colleges adopted the AMIX Amiga as a standard for teaching purposes. I used to have one of the tape drives as an external device and used BRU on it; she broke after a few years of use
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I think the rarest Amiga was the A2000 (Rev. 1 Produced in Germany) not to be confused with the B2000 (Rev. 4 Motherboard which was the Primary A2000 release).
The Initial A2000 had a unique CPU Slot and was more Similar to the A1000 Board than the Later A2000 Boards. I only ever saw 1 unit.
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This was probably pretty rare too.
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=555790
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The Initial A2000 had a unique CPU Slot and was more Similar to the A1000 Board than the Later A2000 Boards. I only ever saw 1 unit.
The cpu slot was pretty much the same, however it couldn't disable the 68000 so you had to physically remove the chip from the motherboard.
The video slot was different.
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There was also the A2200 ( a CD32 motherboard with an expansion board for Zorro cards etc. in a desktop box). It was more of a prototype, I remember seeing an ad for it in an Amiga magazine, but I don't know if any were actually sold to the public.
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Hi guys do you know what is the rarest Amiga?
It has to be the Walker prototype (http://www.blachford.info/computer/walker/walker.html).
Staf.
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What about the 2200? I remember seeing adds for it out of Canada, but am not sure if it ever was anything more than a prototype?
It sure looked like a great idea....
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I remember seeing the A2200 ads too and wanting to get one.
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It has to be the Walker prototype (http://www.blachford.info/computer/walker/walker.html).
Staf.
Or the CDTV CR (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/prototypes/cdtvcr.html)
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There was someone here a number of years ago who claimed to have a 2200. He never did post pictures of it...
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Except for the tape drive it was a standard Amiga. The AMIX software is available as a 9 disk download. As I recall several colleges adopted the AMIX Amiga as a standard for teaching purposes. I used to have one of the tape drives as an external device and used BRU on it; she broke after a few years of use
Didn't the A3000UX come with an A2410 as well as the tape drive?
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Didn't the A3000UX come with an A2410 as well as the tape drive?
Some models. I think you could configure it with any or all of 2410, 2232, and 2065. At any rate, I think those are the few boards that Amix supports out of the box.
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Are you sure it was a 1000? I think it was less than 80 for the A3000T. Even less for the A4000T.
Actually i think maybe 80 for the A3000T is a bit optimistic.
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/sales.html (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/sales.html)
If you look at Germany you can see 6000 A3000T's and 80 A3000T040.
But an A3000T040 isn't that rare, I got 1, not the best looking 3000T040, but hey, I got it for a nice price.
Still remains guess work for both in the past and now.
But I agree with Tone007, the 4000T Commodore is the rarest.
However it's just a 4000T board in a pc case, the last design was the PC III 60 / 3000T case, if my memory is right.
Same goes for the Amiga Technologies 4000T, that is just another pc case.
If you include the A3500, that is even more rare (I have it in my wishlist, but I think it's impossible), but that is more an early A3000T prototype.
But it's just a 3000T board, slapped in a PC III 60 case.
I think it would look like this:
- Commodore 4000T
- A2500 UX
- A3000 UX
- A2500/30
- A3000T040
- A3000T
- Amiga Technologies A4000T (Escom)
- A2500
- A1500
The 2500/30 is a special labeled 2500, just like the UX, but not that different from normal 2500's, the whole range is A2000.
Same goes for the 1500, UK edition with only 2 FDD's, but no HDD or accelerator card.
However the 2500UX is the rarest one of the whole 2000 series, only a few of those around the world, less than 10 is estimated.
Again, it's all still guess work, if everyone enters all Amiga's in http://www.amigamap.com, we could have a real overview.
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Were the unix models any different, hardware wise?
Not really. If you got the full-blown Amiga 300UX it came with the Lowell Board (A2024?) and of course the External SCSI Tape Drive.
The Lowell Board was pretty nice for X-Windows at the time.
Cheers!
-P
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The rarest working Amiga is the A3000+, good luck finding one;)
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There was also the A2200 ( a CD32 motherboard with an expansion board for Zorro cards etc. in a desktop box). It was more of a prototype, I remember seeing an ad for it in an Amiga magazine, but I don't know if any were actually sold to the public.
There are two A2200's. The official one that were designed by commodore but never produced, http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/a2200.html
And something that could have been a CD32 motherboard in a case with an expansion board http://www.thecryptmag.com/Online/29/TheForgottenAmiga.html http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=19, the twice the speed of an a1200 claim is probably because it came with some fast ram. The 7 other slots probably zorro ii/iii is wrong, there are 7 slots, 4 PC ISA slots, 1 a1200 cpu slot, a slot for a 486 card and a future expansion slot. Whether you could use the ISA slots without the 486 card is anyones guess. It's no more an Amiga than the checkmate digital 1500 or the bodega bay.
An NTSC CD32 or a commodore badged A4000T is probably the rarest machine that went into production.
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The rarest working Amiga is the A3000+, good luck finding one;)
Dave Haynie is the only one I think.
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Dave Haynie is the only one I think.
I believe SCALA (remember them?) had one. Not sure if it was 100% "working" though.
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Be, Inc. BeBox!
I'll get me coat.
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Be, Inc. BeBox!
I'll get me coat.
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Rabblerabblerabble!
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I believe SCALA (remember them?) had one. Not sure if it was 100% "working" though.
Well they are long gone, so I don't think that Amiga still exists.
Else we would have seen it here.
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Actually, no, Scala still exists today and acknowledge their Amiga heritage: http://www.scala.com/about/history
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This from my collection, of which I have two and why is this odd ?
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_mar14/a_scuzz_march26_02.jpg
Strangely my most desired piece of Amiga hardware is still an Amiga 1060
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=327
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UX A1500/2500 etc are just A2000 machines so don't count.
A1000s are very thin on the ground for sure, probably because nobody wants to sell them at their undervalued sale price.
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Rabblerabblerabble!
Sorry, should I have said "Mac with ToasterController"? :D
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Dave Haynie is the only one I think.
Softhut had one for sale some 10+ years ago! Not sure whose it was or where it came from, but it sold.
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UX A1500/2500 etc are just A2000 machines so don't count.
A1000s are very thin on the ground for sure, probably because nobody wants to sell them at their undervalued sale price.
They do count if they vary in any way in appearance or build, and that could also mean in the form of dedicated peripherals and or even the box. Collectors of stamps want the mint, fine used, gutter pairs, traffic light gutter pairs, sheet, presentation pack etc and yet technically all the same stamp. That's what collecting is all about. I spent like an eternity trying to get the cheese for the modulator for the 500 and the stick end for the Enterprise. The sellers were amazed that I didn't want the computer and I just wanted the packaging. Interestingly the box is worth way more than the machine sometimes. Cus people throw the boxes away.
Here are three computers that I was given ' GIVEN ' last year. You can pick up the common makes no problem, though the lesser known models are tricky.
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0410/car_0410_075.jpg
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The rarest working Amiga is the A3000+, good luck finding one;)
I bought the only one I ever saw from Software Hut several years ago. Its still working and sealed away currently. Its got an 040 card from an A4000 in it, no Amber chip or the ability to have one, AGA and no working DSP chip, but the rest is there and its in a standard A3000 case.
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ts still working and sealed away currently..
If it's sealed away, how do you know it's still working....
Hmmm...
:-)
desiv
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If it's sealed away, how do you know it's still working....
Hmmm...
:-)
desiv
Schrodinger's Computer. :D
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Dave Haynie is the only one I think.
Unfinished prototypes are tricky, if you include those then the rarest amiga will be one we don't know about.
The A2000 revision 5 is very rare, estimated as 5 boards produced.
"While there are many Amiga 2000s in the world, the Rev 5 is extremely rare. As far as I know, only about five boards were made. The purpose of the Rev 5 board was simply to add higher density memory to the Amiga 2000. The original design used sixteen memories for a bank of memory, this design used four (there are two banks). This was the last Amiga 2000 motherboard I had all that much to do with..
At the time, the Rev 4.x was in production, and the new board was desired for new production, as the price crossover from the 256K x 1 to the 256K x 4 memories had been reached. However, the Rev 5 board was completed ahead of the need for it. So the PCB guys did some additional cleanup work on the design, and I think the FCC people got involved, too. Regardless, the resulting Rev 6 motherboards were plagued with problems (in fairness, some were due to the switchover to a 68000 with faster signals, that was also noisier). - Dave Haynie"
While A3000+ was estimated as 50 produced, however the majority were revision 2 boards (renamed AA3000). How many revision 0 & 1 boards were produced is unknown & how many of each remain is another thing altogether.
"Rev 0 (A3000+, Most components were socketed)
Rev 1 (A3000+, Completed audio sub-system, most components surface mounted)
Rev 2 (AA300)"
Revision 0, 1, 2, 4 & 7 of the A500 are unknown but they probably existed
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Rare Amigas? This reminds me: Does anyone remember DraCo?
In 1995 (the year I lost track of everything Amiga - starting a dark decade of Linux and Mac) there was some talk about DraCo being the future of Amiga. It ran some Amiga Software, but lacked the typical Amiga Chipset. Some company that was famous for Amiga graphics boards made them. I guess they are pretty rare now ....
Wait, let`s try to google it:
http://amiga.resource.cx/mod/draco.html
I remember reading about a guy of MTV fame, who was quite fond of his DraCo.
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Hi guys do you know what is the rarest Amiga?
I think there may have been cost reduced CDTV, but i'm not sure it was ever released.
There was also the original German A2000 with the original DIP socket Agnus. Not sure if you would want to collect that one though :) Bet you could get one for cheap....
OOPS: those were already mentioned.
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I bought the only one I ever saw from Software Hut several years ago. Its still working and sealed away currently. Its got an 040 card from an A4000 in it, no Amber chip or the ability to have one, AGA and no working DSP chip, but the rest is there and its in a standard A3000 case.
So you bought it! Well, mystery solved. Glad it went to a good home!
(Hope you checked the battery!)
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Hi guys what does an Amiga 4000 Tower cost? they are quite rare so i guess they cant be cheep
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I bought the only one I ever saw from Software Hut several years ago. Its still working and sealed away currently. Its got an 040 card from an A4000 in it, no Amber chip or the ability to have one, AGA and no working DSP chip, but the rest is there and its in a standard A3000 case.
Do you have any pictures or videos of this rare gem that you could put up? I'll never own one but I would love to see it.
Congrats!
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Do you have any pictures or videos of this rare gem that you could put up? I'll never own one but I would love to see it.
Congrats!
I posted some for the big book of Amiga not long ago. It's got all socketed chips and most came out of an A4000 to get it working. I booted it up last summer and it was fine, sealed it air tight and put it away.