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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: adolescent on January 19, 2004, 05:41:16 PM

Title: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: adolescent on January 19, 2004, 05:41:16 PM
Well, my original plans have changed and instead of updating the computers any more I am really in a position to sell one off (it's taken all of my will power, and the weak US dollar, to withstand the special offers from Elbox really...).  

A4000D/2M CHIP/16M FAST
Cyberstorm Mk2/060-66MHz/128M FAST
HD Floppy
DKB A4091
ACard SCSIDE w/IBM 40GB HD (not installed yet but waiting)
Yamaha 12x IDE CD-RW
ScanMagic Internal SD/FF
A2065

A1200/2M CHIP
Blizzard 060-50MHz/SCSI/128M FAST
HD Floppy
20GB Hitachi/IBM 2.5" IDE
ScanMagic Internal SD/FF
PCMCIA NIC
Bigfoot P/S

So, what do you think?
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: R2D2 on January 19, 2004, 05:44:31 PM
Nice machines! I'd keep both of them..
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: patrik on January 19, 2004, 06:00:02 PM
@adolescent:

Keep the A4000, its rarer, a better machine and you have better stuff in that one.


/Patrik
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Argo on January 19, 2004, 06:01:19 PM
I'd say the A1200, if you plan to tower should you keep it.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Jope on January 19, 2004, 06:15:27 PM
Keep the A4000.. It's less hacky to upgrade (if you need to) than the A1200.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: HopperJF on January 19, 2004, 06:17:09 PM
i'd agree, keep the A4000, and dont even think about towering it  ;-)
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: amigamad on January 19, 2004, 06:36:41 PM
I would say the a4000 although the a1200 is a nice spec .Hope the battery in the a4000 is not leaking.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2004, 06:38:28 PM
I think you should keep both but if you realy nead the $ then sell of parts from the A1200 so you still have a machine to play old games on which wont work on 060 or need to be downgraded to ROM1.3.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Methuselas on January 19, 2004, 07:41:09 PM
Whichever one you DON'T want, lemme know and I'll take it off your hands, free of charge (to me, that is).  :-P
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: itix on January 19, 2004, 07:50:55 PM
I would sell both :-D
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: that_punk_guy on January 19, 2004, 07:54:41 PM
There's not too much you can do with an A1200 that you can't with the A4000, so I'd say definitely keep the A4k. Also, A1200s are easier to find if you ever decide you want one again.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: xeron on January 19, 2004, 07:55:38 PM
Definately definately keep the A4000. If you get a Mediator, the 4000 is better than the 1200, but even if you don't I much prefer 4000s to 1200s (although I have both too :-).

BUT... make sure it doesn't have the original battery. If it does, replace it.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: adolescent on January 19, 2004, 08:37:10 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not really hurting for money.  It's just that I'm going to be a father in less that 90 days. :-o  So, I'm just clearing out the things that I don't or can't use regularly.   (I also have an A3000/040, A600, and an A1200 that I built out of spares...  All except the A3000 will probably be on the chopping block some day)

Looks like the A4000 is wining.  I've never considered towering the A1200.  Maybe I'd tower the A4000 or get a 4000Di.  The thing that drew me to A1200 was the form factor, portableness (is that a word?) and the fact that I can plug it into the TV if needed.  The only reason I got the A4000 was to get PCI.  And, well you guys know how it goes...

I've already removed the battery from the A4000.  Some day I'll get around to adding it back.

Oh well, keep the opinions coming.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Cyberus on January 19, 2004, 09:03:36 PM
'portability' is the word you were looking for

I have the same dilemma
I think I'm going to keep a basic desktop A1200 and my high spec A4000, and build a couple of towered A1200s to give to my dad. I've decided to keep the A4000 cos they're harder to come by.

Regards
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: McNorris on January 20, 2004, 01:30:03 AM
Keep the A4000. If you ditch it you may never find that killer of a setup again (or at least be able to justify the price of procuring one:( ). Maybe sell the goodies in the A1200 and keep it cherry! Oh, hell! Just keep both. I can't even sell my A600 and it ain't nothing to either of your babies. The one time I thought I would my wife talked me out of it and I ended up setting it up again.  :-D Damn!

@amigamad
I'm liking your avatar!
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Cyberus on January 20, 2004, 01:34:48 AM
@McNorris
Heh, your wife sounds more understanding than most, to say the least. Usually it'd be a case of someone selling their Amiga cos the wife said it had to go, rather than her persuading them to keep it, lol.
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: McNorris on January 20, 2004, 01:42:09 AM
Yeah, she's pretty cool (most of the time).

Besides the Mac I use often I still have an A600 and an Apple][c+ (w/ 1MB RAM board), but they are out in my garage with my Iron Maiden posters and the like. :-D

A long time ago we lived in a little apartment with no storage space and she convinced me to throw out all my Apple ][s except my ][c+ and some assorted Amiga parts (and a couple of 68K Macs). She was right, we needed the space. To make up for it she got us (or me?) a Gamecube.

I married the right gal.

Beautiful, geek-symbathetic, a great cook, independent, and only sometimes mean as a pissed off snake. :-D  :-o  :-D
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Jeff on January 20, 2004, 02:37:51 AM
I would keep the A4000, in fact I am.  I may be crazy though, I still have 10 fuctioning Amiga systems  :-D

Jeff
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Ilwrath on January 20, 2004, 05:24:44 AM
I have to agree with most everyone else, and say keep the 4000.  I have one similiar to yours, and if it came down to me only keeping one Amiga, that would be it, no doubt in my mind.  (Fortunatly, it hasn't come to that point, and I have several functional machines, and a couple more collectibles tucked away.  :-)  )
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: adolescent on January 21, 2004, 11:49:19 PM
Ok, I decided to keep the A4000.  And, since it was the last day of Elbox's sale, I decided to take advantage and get the 4000Di.  This will give me an excuse to use the Voodoo 5500 and SB128 I've been hanging onto for a few years.

I'm debating what to do with the A1200, but for sure the A600 and my backup A1200 (standard) will be up for grabs.  PM me if interested.  I still don't know wether I will sell the A3000.  It's not the fastest of the bunch anymore, but I bought it new so it's got some sentimental value.

 
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: on January 26, 2004, 04:10:01 AM
Hi adolescent,

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Just to clarify, I'm not really hurting for money. It's just that I'm going to be a father in less that 90 days.


Oh, you poor thing.  If I were you, I would dump the woman and kid and keep both of your Amiga computers.  Women and children cost too much and what do men actually get out of it?  Yes, keep both of your computers and dump the woman and kid.     :-D
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Dalamar on January 26, 2004, 07:02:15 AM
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Yes, keep both of your computers and dump the woman and kid.     :-D


I shouldn't be, but I'm laughing. :-o
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: MaDDuck on January 26, 2004, 07:07:16 AM
that's right!!!
Add Amiga ONE
and
ZERO population growth!
Every generation has it's equation....
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: adolescent on January 26, 2004, 04:44:52 PM
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LongDongWong wrote:

Oh, you poor thing.  If I were you, I would dump the woman and kid and keep both of your Amiga computers.  Women and children cost too much and what do men actually get out of it?  Yes, keep both of your computers and dump the woman and kid.     :-D


Heh, finally a good option.  Unfortunately, she gets half...   :-D
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Invisix on January 27, 2004, 04:53:42 PM
@adolescent 1st off, congratulations on being a father.

To help with your dilemma, the Amiga 1200 are very easy to find anymore, the Amiga 4000 is more difficult to find however, the Amiga 4000 is worth alot more $$$ than the Amiga 1200 also.

Also, KEEP the Amiga 3000... those are getting rare as well, and you said you bought it new... bottom line is: DON'T GET RID OF IT!  :-D
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: CRL on January 27, 2004, 09:32:40 PM
Hi All-
 Nobody is willing to defend keeping the A1200?  Well, all geared up as the two systems are maybe the A4000 is the keeper, but if you had stock systems and wanted a few years of good hobby time expanding your Ami the A1200 could be the good choice.  There are more ways to expand (trap door, clock port, pcmcia port) and more ways to output (video out).  Also more fellow hobbyists with similar equipment to share insights, create market strength (ha ha) etc.  
Just a thought
CRL
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: iamaboringperson on January 28, 2004, 01:04:26 AM
@adolescent

I can't believe you would actually ask that!!!!!!!


The A4000 is by far the best. It's so much more expandable, and it's just more practiable

Plus it has the advantage of looking like a real computer




McNorris
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I married the right gal.

Beautiful, geek-symbathetic, a great cook, independent, and only sometimes mean as a pissed off snake.


She seems like one hell of a chick!  But one that lets you keep all of the hardware would be much better, it would also be nice if they helped collect some old computers too! :-D ;-)


Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: Cyberus on January 28, 2004, 01:13:36 AM
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iamaboringperson wrote:

Plus it has the advantage of looking like a real computer


Hmm, that reminds me of someone.....

You do NOT know what you are talking about :-D
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: iamaboringperson on January 28, 2004, 01:23:58 AM
:lol:

--Edit: (and OT)

"I am the ArseMaster2000!! You do NOT know what you are talking about!! My Arkanoid levels are world famous!!!! :-D"
Title: Re: Which should I keep? (A1200 vs A4000D)
Post by: on January 28, 2004, 03:06:07 AM
Hi iamaboringperson,

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"I am the ArseMaster2000!! You do NOT know what you are talking about!! My Arkanoid levels are world famous!!!!


If you are talking about the famous DoomMaster, he did not create any levels for Arkanoid, but he did create some of the world's best maps for Doom 2, Blood, Duke Nukem, and Shadow Warrior.  I have played the DoomMaster on the Kali game server and I must say that I really do like his Duke Nukem maps.  They are awesome!  He is on Kali almost every day.  You should try playing him sometimes.  He also goes by the names: Fly, Jasper, TheBitchMaker, and BigDickSlick.     :-D