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Title: Retina MacBook
Post by: dreamcast270mhz on July 24, 2012, 05:16:35 PM
So I have ordered a Retina MacBook Pro, against my better judgement it cost me about 2.5k. I opted for a lower end models with upgraded RAM, as I am getting a Terabyte HDD for schoolwork storage. It should be at my house by August 9th. In the mean time I am ecstatic, but I seriously hope it was worth the extra dough. Anyone else here have one?
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: commodorejohn on July 24, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
I wouldn't pay that much for something that's designed to be disposable, even if I liked modern Macs...
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: Hattig on July 24, 2012, 06:06:16 PM
From the reviews I've read, it is a great machine, and the display will make you drool.

From my personal experience of Mac OS X Lion, it's not that great in my opinion, it doesn't feel right. Earlier versions (Tiger, Snow Leopard) felt great to use. Lion is just a bit juddery. Hopefully Mountain Lion will fix these issues.

The guys at iFixIt are less impressed however - very difficult to repair, and terrible to recycle because of the glue and fused glass/aluminium. However in my experience Macs can last a very long time compared to a PC which surely should be factored into the equation.
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: billt on July 24, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;701116
I wouldn't pay that much for something that's designed to be disposable, even if I liked modern Macs...


I thought about it, but the Macs were missing some other things I needed, too expensive for the wrong thing. I recently bought a PC laptop for $2000. Depends on what you need and want and if you can pull it off. For a Windows PC I would not go for an equivalent of Retina display. I got a 1080P screen, and have trouble seeing the default fonts, too small. Trying to make the fonts larger kindof helps, btu it makes a lot of things get rendered incorrectly and so I can't see text anyway. Some website menu bars in Firefox don't get drawn at all, dialog boxes are wonky and missing some text that should be there, just not well done scaling. Hopefully OSX is better about that.
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: Duce on July 24, 2012, 06:37:05 PM
Used one for a fair amount of time, but didn't buy one.

Real nice machine, the display is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: AmiKit on July 24, 2012, 06:53:48 PM
Let me know how AmiKit (http://amikit.amiga.sk) runs on such a dream machine :)
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: jj on July 24, 2012, 07:56:02 PM
Dont see the point for cheaper, you can get a much much more powerful alienware.
 
Retina display is too much for a screen that size. HD is more than enough.
 
But I hope you enjoy your choice.  Hours for courses as we say
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: dreamcast270mhz on July 30, 2012, 05:04:15 PM
UPDATE: It is now going to be here by thursday.

In response to what has been said:

I do not like PCs anymore, and I would rather pay for my Macbook Pro any day than deal with the nightmare that windows is.

On Upgradeability, it is a drawback but an esata to thunderbolt adapter and my external drive should negate any drawbacks, plus 16GB of RAM is a lot to have. I also paid with my credit card so I get two years of accidental coverage, courtesy of AMEX. Luckily the balance will be paid off as soon as my bill comes in.

I'm just sick of all the prep work a cheaper PC involves, plus the retina macbook was exactly what I was waiting for: A revolutionary, sleek system that can kick window's behind. Anyone can see that OS X has inherently better management than ANY windows computer,heck, when XP was still the norm, Tiger was pioneering new OS features. Plus, I get a free upgrade to ML :P
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: Hattig on July 30, 2012, 05:17:05 PM
Mountain Lion is a lot better than Lion, btw (in reference to my comment above).

Also, to be fair, Windows 7 is by far the best Windows so far, but I'd hate to have to use it for real work still.
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: commodorejohn on July 30, 2012, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: dreamcast270mhz;701589
I do not like PCs anymore, and I would rather pay for my Macbook Pro any day than deal with the nightmare that windows is.
You could save an ***load, have upgradability, and still not have to deal with Windows by going the Hackintosh route, y'know.

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Anyone can see that OS X has inherently better management than ANY windows computer,heck, when XP was still the norm, Tiger was pioneering new OS features. Plus, I get a free upgrade to ML :P
Not to get into OS wars or anything, but does OSX have arbitrary selection of files via keyboard (like Windows's Ctrl+arrows and Ctrl+space) yet? They love to put in fancy new features, but they seem to overlook or skimp on a lot of basic groundwork stuff...
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: Hattig on July 30, 2012, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;701592
You could save an assload, have upgradability, and still not have to deal with Windows by going the Hackintosh route, y'know.


Windows laptops with similar specs, design and battery life aren't that much cheaper though.

You may have the option of skimping out on CPU, GPU, RAM, Battery Lift, size, design, etc with a Windows laptop, but you may not wish to.
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: danwood on July 30, 2012, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;701592
You could save an ***load, have upgradability, and still not have to deal with Windows by going the Hackintosh route, y'know.


Hackintosh is fine if you don't mind a LOT of messing around, software updates, driver updates and especially OS updates can all render it broken, it takes a lot of maintenance to keep it running smoothly in comparison to a real Mac.
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: nyteschayde on July 30, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;701592
Not to get into OS wars or anything, but does OSX have arbitrary selection of files via keyboard (like Windows's Ctrl+arrows and Ctrl+space) yet? They love to put in fancy new features, but they seem to overlook or skimp on a lot of basic groundwork stuff...

Lion at least has the ability to hold down the option key (alt) and select things with the arrow keys. I am not sure what ctrl-space does under Windows, but you can do at least that much with Mac OS. You can also cherry pick selected icons using option-click. That has been around since MacOS Classic
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: takemehomegrandma on July 30, 2012, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: dreamcast270mhz;701113
So I have ordered a Retina MacBook Pro, against my better judgement it cost me about 2.5k. I opted for a lower end models with upgraded RAM, as I am getting a Terabyte HDD for schoolwork storage. It should be at my house by August 9th. In the mean time I am ecstatic, but I seriously hope it was worth the extra dough. Anyone else here have one?


I have no experience of that new MacBook, but it has really cool specs. I have one of those new iPad's ("3") with Retina display, and I can assure you that you'll love it! :) Once you have experienced a Retina, you won't go back to those low-res displays with pixels visible. On Retina you simply don't see the individual pixels, everything is totally ultra-smooth! It's simply a wonderful experience! :)
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: AltRN8 on July 30, 2012, 06:19:08 PM
Having used my retina for about a month I think you will quite enjoy it. I am running Mountain Lion on it currently along with Windows 7 through VMware.

The screen is phenomenal, everything is smoking fast and it is relatively light.

I did get caught by the USB 3 snafu but the latest firmware supposedly fixes that issue.

If there is anything you want to know ask away.
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: bloodline on July 30, 2012, 06:37:02 PM
As soon as Apple bring out a retina displayed 11" MacBook Air... I'm getting one!!
Title: Re: Retina MacBook
Post by: dreamcast270mhz on July 31, 2012, 01:12:15 AM
Quote from: commodorejohn;701592
You could save an ***load, have upgradability, and still not have to deal with Windows by going the Hackintosh route, y'know.



The hackintosh route has many freaking obstacles, including but not limited to:

Arseload of prep work, t/e and frustration, hair pulling, beers etc.
Alienation of helpful Mac users, as most fora disallow the discussion of hackintosh
Lack of support from Apple or the OEM

In retrospective, I could have chosen a more affordable or upgradable Mac, but I did not, and if I truly ever need To upgrade, I can imagine I could recoup a fair bit of investment as I doubt the cost of these babies is gonna go down anytime soon. Just got a magic mouse for it and using it on my mini. Fun fun fun