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Title: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: AAACHIPSET on July 22, 2012, 11:42:54 AM
my  1200  is  pretty much setup to run whdownload  games  or installed harddrive games ..im aware of adf  games  but  havent  tried to run or download  etc  any ...my  copy of sim city 2000 is  corrupt  an id like to find a whdownload  copy  of it if it exists ..i have  sim city 500  version ..but not 2000  ..an now  with my  indivision  it will prob  look  pretty good ..
anyone  seen a whdownload  version?? or a original  version  online ?
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: Leffmann on July 22, 2012, 01:17:33 PM
There is no WHDLoad install for it, probably because it's well-behaved and already comes with an HD installer. If you're looking for a WHDLoad installer just check the official whdload.de, if you can't find it there then one has obviously never been made.

You can find complete and downloadable installs of other games on whdownload.com, and there are cracked versions of Sim City 2000 in the TOSEC which you can download from f.ex planetemu.net.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: utri007 on July 22, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
SimCity 2000 is one of the games that gain lots of speed fron correctly setuped FBlit. Need to promote it to use FBlit with FBlit GUI
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: Pentad on July 22, 2012, 03:23:05 PM
Back in the day, I bought Sim City 2000 for Emplant (Mac Version) and a friend who actually own a Mac couldn't believe how well it played on my Amiga/Mac.

The AGA version came a bit later but I thought it was a decent port.

I still play it on Windows.


I always felt that Maxis had the ability to take a limited about of colors but make it look like there was many more.  Jim Sachs had that ability as well.


-P
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: cv643d on July 22, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
Quote from: utri007;700994
SimCity 2000 is one of the games that gain lots of speed fron correctly setuped FBlit. Need to promote it to use FBlit with FBlit GUI


Can u explain how this works? I thought it was enough to have fblit in startup-sequence?
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: utri007 on July 23, 2012, 08:00:50 AM
You haven't read manual ;) You need to promote program with FBlit preferances to use fast memory.

FBlit has a default setup with some programs that is already promoted, but with gui you can add/remove/edit them
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: paul1981 on July 23, 2012, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: utri007;701031
You haven't read manual ;) You need to promote program with FBlit preferances to use fast memory.

FBlit has a default setup with some programs that is already promoted, but with gui you can add/remove/edit them

I could never get FBlit to include or exclude particular programs (except for those that exist already in the list). So I just use it in "Exclude" mode. If you have managed to get it to work with the include or exclude list correctly then I'd like to know how you did it, because I gave up. Yes, things added to the list but it has no effect, or at least not on my setup.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: Damion on July 23, 2012, 08:43:16 PM
Quote from: paul1981;701056
I could never get FBlit to include or exclude particular programs (except for those that exist already in the list). So I just use it in "Exclude" mode. If you have managed to get it to work with the include or exclude list correctly then I'd like to know how you did it, because I gave up. Yes, things added to the list but it has no effect, or at least not on my setup.


Same here, always ran FBlit in "Exclude" mode.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: utri007 on July 23, 2012, 08:44:35 PM
How much you have free chip memory after boot? You should have 1900kb at least.

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/compatibility.html#9

I used solution 2

Don't forget setup FText

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/FText_v18

It is shame that FBlit isn't developed anymore
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: AAACHIPSET on July 24, 2012, 01:45:13 PM
actually  found  a installed  version  ..but the install  log  refers to a drive called wbo..so i guess ill have to give up  ..an learn how to do adf  files ..oh well
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: paul1981 on July 24, 2012, 08:41:37 PM
Quote from: utri007;701059
How much you have free chip memory after boot? You should have 1900kb at least.

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/compatibility.html#9

I used solution 2

Don't forget setup FText

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/FText_v18

It is shame that FBlit isn't developed anymore

I'm running 3.1. Maybe that aspect of the program just doesn't work correctly with 3.1. Everything seems to work though when running in "Exclude" mode (everything promoted)...well except some non whdload games but that's hardly an issue as I use everything WHDLoad now.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: utri007 on July 24, 2012, 10:27:37 PM
Do you notice big difference games like SimCity 2000, Napalm, Foundation etc games that allow choose hires modes??? Screen scrollin is smooth, game feels much faster than without FBlit.

Just curious, I'ven't ever tried to promote everythin, didn't even know that it is possible.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: KimmoK on July 25, 2012, 08:04:53 AM
"SimCity 2000...Screen scrollin is smooth, game feels much faster than without FBlit."

One day also I should try FBlit. On my A4000+060/50+CV64-3D SimCity2000 was a liittle bit slow all the time. They say that Mac version is a lot faster in shapeshifter.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: paul1981 on July 25, 2012, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: utri007;701134
Do you notice big difference games like SimCity 2000, Napalm, Foundation etc games that allow choose hires modes??? Screen scrollin is smooth, game feels much faster than without FBlit.

Just curious, I'ven't ever tried to promote everythin, didn't even know that it is possible.

I'm sorry to say I don't play those particular games, although I do have a copy of Napalm...I just haven't played it in years (I don't use my cd-rom anymore). If it's HD installable I could give it a whirl I suppose.

But in answer to your question, yes, all new screens are super fast...OctamedSS, IBrowse, Deluxe Paint, Dopus, FileMaster etc. It even speeds Quake and Doom up a tad as well. Even 256 colour/HAM8 Deluxe Paint screens are very usable with FBlit (and I run DBL modes)...standard PAL/NTSC is even better (as is HighGFX). I need to get a flickerfixer...but HighGFX 256 colour mode 1024x768 is very impressive with FBlit.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: utri007 on July 25, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
Guide says that don't try to promote Quake/doom style games, so I'ven't tried that.

Can you do timedemo with and without fblit? Need to check that myself when I'm home again. I'm curious :)
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: paul1981 on July 25, 2012, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: utri007;701217
Guide says that don't try to promote Quake/doom style games, so I'ven't tried that.

Can you do timedemo with and without fblit? Need to check that myself when I'm home again. I'm curious :)

I'm afraid I can't right now as my A1200 is not connected! I'm in the process of upgrading the hard drive from 3.25GB to 80GB. The 80GB has lots of my personal data on it and I need to go through it all to back it up (it's out of my old laptop which died...well actually I punched the screen). I'm going to try a different cooling fan as well in the case. If you're desperate to know I could hook it up again, but wasn't going to until I was ready to put the new drive in.

I remember comparing it myself with and without FBlit (doom and quake), and with FBlit it was (very) marginally faster. My main area of concern was "would it make it slower?" and the answer was a definite "No", which was good...because I can continue to use FBlit in Exclude mode  without having to manually keep turning it into Include mode and back again.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: AAACHIPSET on August 05, 2012, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: AAACHIPSET;700986
my  1200  is  pretty much setup to run whdownload  games  or installed harddrive games ..im aware of adf  games  but  havent  tried to run or download  etc  any ...my  copy of sim city 2000 is  corrupt  an id like to find a whdownload  copy  of it if it exists ..i have  sim city 500  version ..but not 2000  ..an now  with my  indivision  it will prob  look  pretty good ..
anyone  seen a whdownload  version?? or a original  version  online ?

ok  so worked out adf files  ..got  simcity2000  installed  only to get a out of memory error ..i have standard 2 meg chip an lots  fast  ram ..managed to get chip up to almost all free  of 2 meg  ..nothing  still out memory ..ran installed fblit ..havent played with config file though  ..still out memory ..
any ideas?? ..help!
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: Cammy on August 05, 2012, 09:53:44 PM
Did you install any patches to SimCity 2000?
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: AAACHIPSET on August 06, 2012, 09:54:33 AM
Quote from: Cammy;702362
Did you install any patches to SimCity 2000?

patches  ??  in fblit?  or?
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: Cammy on August 08, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
There were some patches to fix some bugs and speed up Sim City 2000. Have a look on Aminet and the Amiga Future website. I'm unsure which of the patches is the newest at the moment, I looked into it a long time ago but forgot the details.

I even compared the speed of the game running in MacOS on the same Amiga and the Amiga version was quite snappy with the patches applied and FBlit running.
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: Etho on August 08, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
Simcity 2000 patch:

http://aminet.net/package/game/patch/SimCity2000pch
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: AAACHIPSET on September 08, 2012, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: AAACHIPSET;702283
ok  so worked out adf files  ..got  simcity2000  installed  only to get a out of memory error ..i have standard 2 meg chip an lots  fast  ram ..managed to get chip up to almost all free  of 2 meg  ..nothing  still out memory ..ran installed fblit ..havent played with config file though  ..still out memory ..
any ideas?? ..help!

i gave up ..tried  everything  ..disable  the cdrom drive  etc etc ..got  all my chip mem an fast ram ..still out of  memory  error  ...i think it is a problem with the whdownload install itself..
bum
ill wait  till i see a installable  copy ..non  whd
Title: Re: sim city 2000 an whdownload
Post by: Cammy on September 09, 2012, 03:19:08 PM
I guess you could try this and see if it works  http://home.exetel.com.au/amiga/SimCity2000.lha