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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: nscaleworld on July 21, 2012, 10:39:48 AM
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I soldered a CR2032 coin battery holder and a 1N60 diode in my Amiga 2500 motherboard. Poped in a new battery, and the RTC is not keeping the correct time or date. I unsoldered R803 and soldered the 1N60 diode in its place. Polarity on the battery holder and diode are correct.
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Anyone know why my RTC is not working?
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Battery voltage? Some are already weak when sold.
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I am wondering if R803 should be left in the circuit, because electricity takes the path of the least resistance.
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Is it losing time, or not saving? I have a few machines setup that way with no problem. My 2000 only lost an hour or so after being powered off a year.
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I am wondering if R803 should be left in the circuit, because electricity takes the path of the least resistance.
Where did you get that preposterous idea?? Electrical current flow takes *all* parallel paths, which is just as well because otherwise nothing electronic could ever work; these all contain multiple parallel paths of differing resistance. Besides, R803 is part of a series circuit with respect to battery current flow, so either way is part of the only current path. Its only purpose is to limit current flow into a NiCd/NiMH battery which is charged with a simple constant current concept. Replacing this resistor with a diode just means the current can only flow from the lithium cell to the RTC.
It's perfectly legitimate to replace R803 with a small signal diode.
Here's the schematic (http://amiga.serveftp.net/Schematics/A2000_schematics/A2000-Buster-RTC.jpg) of the A2000 RTC.
As I mentioned here (http://aoproxy.extropia.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=62141) you need to make sure the diode polarity is correct. If replacing R803 with a 1N60, you need to make sure anode side goes to battery + and cathode (stripe side) to U801 pin 18.
Use a DC voltmeter to check you have >2.5V between U801 pin 18 and ground (computer chassis) with the computer off and the battery fitted.
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Is it losing time, or not saving? I have a few machines setup that way with no problem. My 2000 only lost an hour or so after being powered off a year.
Not saving. I baught the CR2032 coin battery from Radio Shack. I noticed that many people use a 1N914 diode, I wonder if this would be a better diode to use instead of the 1N60.
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Not saving. I baught the CR2032 coin battery from Radio Shack. I noticed that many people use a 1N914 diode, I wonder if this would be a better diode to use instead of the 1N60.
I cannot recall why I selected the 1N914 for my project, but it's possible it was the only one available, or the only one which fit the form and design factor of the project.
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Not saving. I baught the CR2032 coin battery from Radio Shack. I noticed that many people use a 1N914 diode, I wonder if this would be a better diode to use instead of the 1N60.
The 1N60 diode you already have is fine. In fact it's a better choice over silicon diodes for reasons I've already explained here (http://aoproxy.extropia.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=62053&page=2).
You need to check that U801 has power (greater than about +2.5V) on pin 18 as supplied from the cell when the computer is powered off, else it's obviously not going to keep the time data.
If the save button on the time prefs program is ghosted, it means the system cannot see the RTC. Almost always, this is a result of battery corrosion damaging tracks, vias and ICs. I've written this repair guide (http://amiga.serveftp.net/RTCrepair.html) which is for the A4000D, but may be partly helpful for the A2000.