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Title: What was the point in donating?
Post by: AmmoJammo on July 06, 2012, 01:45:49 AM
I made a donation 2 weeks ago, got (I assume) an automated private message:

Quote from: Pyromania
Dear AmmoJammo,
       
        We have noticed that you haved used our PayPal Donation System on 06-21-12, 10:50.
        Your donation will be checked and you'll receive another PM if/when it's confirmed.
       
        Best Regards,
       
        The Forum Team

And then nothing? Never added to the monthly total, and it appears no one has donated since 2010 anyway... so what was the point?
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: AmmoJammo on July 17, 2012, 01:06:29 PM
And then?
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: SysAdmin on July 17, 2012, 01:53:01 PM
Donation reporting site broken, trying to fix.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: djos on July 17, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Transition;700405
Donation reporting site broken, trying to fix.
So what goodies do we get for donating? are there levels? :D
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: AmmoJammo on July 17, 2012, 02:16:30 PM
Wouldn't bother donating again, thats for sure.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: mongo on July 17, 2012, 05:34:52 PM
It's a donation. If you don't know what the point is then why did you do it?
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: outlawal2 on July 17, 2012, 09:05:36 PM
Hmmm. the usual point of donating is to support the folks that make things happen...  Clearly you donate for some other reason altogether such as a pat on the head or some kind of recognition..   I recommend donating to support the folks that make things happen rather than the receipt of some kind of "gift"...
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: SysAdmin on July 17, 2012, 09:09:01 PM
Ammo please do me a favor. Don't donate then be an ahole about it afterwords. No one tied you to a chair, beat you and forced you to donate. Thanks for supporting the site, it is appreciated.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: AmmoJammo on July 18, 2012, 12:54:16 AM
If you donate to something, a charity, forum, anything! you generally want to see your money has actually gone where you were expecting it to.

If you donated to a charity that provided school books to third world children, then heard nothing, of course you wouldn't be happy.

In this case, the only recognition that my donation has been received and put to use, is the "total" bar at the top of the forums, and yet, that hasn't changed? All I got was an automated PM, and then nothing for weeks, till I had to ask twice what was going on... even then, the word "sorry" would have gone a long way.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: CritAnime on July 18, 2012, 01:41:58 AM
I really don't get the issue. You donated to the site. You obviously thought it was gonna go towards stuff like hosting and such. If you wanted something else then why not subscribe?
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: mongo on July 18, 2012, 01:58:08 AM
Quote from: AmmoJammo;700483
If you donate to something, a charity, forum, anything! you generally want to see your money has actually gone where you were expecting it to.


Where were you expecting it to go?
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: djos on July 18, 2012, 02:06:37 AM
Quote from: AmmoJammo;700483
If you donate to something, a charity, forum, anything! you generally want to see your money has actually gone where you were expecting it to.

If you donated to a charity that provided school books to third world children, then heard nothing, of course you wouldn't be happy.

In this case, the only recognition that my donation has been received and put to use, is the "total" bar at the top of the forums, and yet, that hasn't changed? All I got was an automated PM, and then nothing for weeks, till I had to ask twice what was going on... even then, the word "sorry" would have gone a long way.


It is hard living in a world of instant gratification especially when one is a Gen Y'er, right AJ? ;)



PS, my wife is a Gen Y'er and I'm forever telling her to relax and not be so dammed impatient. (im a Gen X'er) :D
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: motrucker on July 18, 2012, 03:54:53 AM
Quote from: AmmoJammo;700483
If you donate to something, a charity, forum, anything! you generally want to see your money has actually gone where you were expecting it to.

If you donated to a charity that provided school books to third world children, then heard nothing, of course you wouldn't be happy.

In this case, the only recognition that my donation has been received and put to use, is the "total" bar at the top of the forums, and yet, that hasn't changed? All I got was an automated PM, and then nothing for weeks, till I had to ask twice what was going on... even then, the word "sorry" would have gone a long way.

Everyone now knows you donated something to the kitty. You can give it a rest....
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: ptek on July 18, 2012, 12:18:24 PM
Well, I removed my previous reply.

I think AJ concerns is about the transparency of the process.

If there is no visibility about the donations on public status, them people may start to wonder if it goes to the right place, even if there is absolutely nothing wrong.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: J-Golden on July 18, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
???  But you did get a message thanking you for the donation.  Sure the tracker is down, but that should have told you that it was received and by the right people.

FYI, The original owner of A.ORG, Wayne, was a web programming guru.  He put together all kinds of cool stuff for us that Pyro and others inherited.

The down side is that the new owners don't have the same intimate understanding of how A.ORG was assembled so when something breaks, it takes longer to find the issue and fix. It usually has a good amount of frustration thrown into the repair process as well...
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: djos on July 18, 2012, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: J-Golden;700535
???  But you did get a message thanking you for the donation.

I think that was the issue, AJ donated and received nothing, not even a PM.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: J-Golden on July 19, 2012, 01:11:46 AM
Quote from: djos;700588
I think that was the issue, AJ donated and received nothing, not even a PM.

Ah, got it.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: rvo_nl on July 19, 2012, 08:56:01 AM
I think I donated 2 years ago and received the same PM, then never got any reply either. Now I didnt mind that I wasnt 'thanked' or anything, its just that I didnt know if my donation actually came through. Would have been nice to know. So, it would be a good thing to fix the donation counter, thats for sure.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: cpfuture on July 19, 2012, 09:15:30 AM
I donated once or twice in the past (back when Wayne was still running the site) and as a result got the VIP/donor status. Maybe it's a good idea to reinstate that policy?
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: tribz on July 19, 2012, 09:43:48 AM
As ptek said, its about transparency.

With recent threads such as http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55969&page=4&highlight=aladdin and http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61682 I can understand why someone might think in such a way as the OP.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: rewlako on July 19, 2012, 10:26:23 AM
Quote from: AmmoJammo;699201
And then nothing? Never added to the monthly total, and it appears no one has donated since 2010 anyway... so what was the point?

What exactly do you want?

1) support the site
or
2) get recognition?

Hint: You already did #1.
Title: Re: What was the point in donating?
Post by: smerf on July 19, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
Quote from: outlawal2;700445
Hmmm. the usual point of donating is to support the folks that make things happen...  Clearly you donate for some other reason altogether such as a pat on the head or some kind of recognition..   I recommend donating to support the folks that make things happen rather than the receipt of some kind of "gift"...


Hi,

Boy did you get this wrong, "the folks that make things happen" on Amiga(oops MAC).org.

OH I get it, your trying to suck up to management, do a little brown nosing aren't we, wow you better mark the soles of your shoes with your name so we know who you are when you crawl up there.

smerf