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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Desktop Audio and Video => Topic started by: rednova on June 16, 2012, 11:04:24 PM
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Dear Friends:
Can amiga 500 be expanded to 18 mb ram ?
Can amiga 500 be used for 'moviesetter' and to make
amiga cartoons ?
What is the minimum setup for amiga 500 to run moviesetter ?
Pls help !!!
rednova
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Think that moviesetter needs 6mb minimum. I can't think of a way to get an A500 past 18mb (somebody may say otherwise) but why would you want to? Surely the way forward is to pick up an A2000 and expand it.
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Of course it can be expanded - usind a suitable accelerator; my towerized A500 had at best 2 MB Chip and 132 MB Fast via Megachip2, Blizzard 2060 and Oktagon 2008.
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sticking with the default 68k cpu, the absolute max would be 1mb chip, 8mb fast and 0.5mb slow... maybe a bit more...(my own mem not being 100%)
But as the 68k cpu has a 16mb total range (including io etc) ... 18m is out
ta
Tom UK
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HI !!!
Thank you for helping me !!!
After i read your posts, I think it'll be on my best interest to buy
an amiga 2000, this way I can expand and it'll be a better system
for using moviesetter.
I mainly want an amiga for moviesetter, the rest don't matter.
Seems an amiga 2000 be a better system than all for moviesetter.
Thank you !!!
rednova
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Might as well get A3000, comes with 2meg chip and 16Mb RAM if you are lucky, 68030 25Mhz, SCSI controller and VGA out. On A2000 you need to spend a lot of effort and money to get the machine on par with A3000.
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Might as well get A3000, comes with 2meg chip and 16Mb RAM if you are lucky, 68030 25Mhz, SCSI controller and VGA out. On A2000 you need to spend a lot of effort and money to get the machine on par with A3000.
Would agree, first choice would be a 3000. 2MB chip RAM and up to 16MB RAM on the motherboard (even if it doesnt come with the full 16MB you can still find ZIP RAM on eBAy from time to time in the $30 range for 4MB), SCSI built in and Flicker Fixer built in to hook up a VGA monitor.
For all that in a 2000 would usually cost more with having to get boards for SCSI, accelerator, RAM.
A native 2000 is little better than a 500 though the boards to accelerate it are a bit more plentifull and an accelerator is the only way you wil get over 8MB. So make sure to factor in the price for that when deciding and comparing to the 3000
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Having owned all three systems in question, I'll say that I probably spent about the same amount of money on each, but didn't get as much for the cash from some. The A500 is pretty easy to achieve some basic acceleration on, but 020+ accelerators (needed for more than 8MB fast RAM) are harder to come by than 68000 accelerators, and sidecar expansions are a pain in the ass. The 2000's an absolute monster on a desk, but eminently expandable, with a wide variety of cards available cheaply, and it's much easier to get an 020 or 030 board that will take a lot of RAM. The 3000 has some major advantages (up to 16MB onboard and an 030 and flicker-fixer built right in,) and has the best accelerators out of the three, but they're harder to come by and the case is an absolute bitch to work inside (why oh why did people think sub-desktops were a good idea?)
I'd say, if you don't mind hefting a 50lb. tank onto your desk and don't need the sheer horsepower a tricked-out 3000 can offer, go with the 2000.
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sticking with the default 68k cpu, the absolute max would be 1mb chip, 8mb fast and 0.5mb slow... maybe a bit more...(my own mem not being 100%)
I've got a DKB MinimegaChip in my 500 and have done the motherboard fix, so I have 2M CHIP and 8M FAST. (one of tomthul's 8M under CPU boards)
I've never tried to use it all, but the OS sees it.
If you need an Amiga 500 to get more than that (in the standard case), I think you're looking at something like the DCE/E-Matrix Viper 530.
68030 CPU and up to 128M RAM. (And other goodies)
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=67
Looks awesome, but to be honest, I've never seen one in the wild...
desiv
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I think you're looking at something like the DCE/E-Matrix Viper 530.
68030 CPU and up to 128M RAM. (And other goodies)
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=67
Looks awesome, but to be honest, I've never seen one in the wild...
desiv
There was one for sale on Ebay last week-it was £900 though!
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Would agree, first choice would be a 3000. 2MB chip RAM and up to 16MB RAM on the motherboard (even if it doesnt come with the full 16MB you can still find ZIP RAM on eBAy from time to time in the $30 range for 4MB), SCSI built in and Flicker Fixer built in to hook up a VGA monitor.
For all that in a 2000 would usually cost more with having to get boards for SCSI, accelerator, RAM.
A native 2000 is little better than a 500 though the boards to accelerate it are a bit more plentifull and an accelerator is the only way you wil get over 8MB. So make sure to factor in the price for that when deciding and comparing to the 3000
+1. I have all 3, also. For the money spent, I think you'll reach your goal faster with a 3000. I don't know what is magical about the 18 Megs of ram, but, if you ever need more, Amigakit sells an inexpensive 128Meg ram board for Zorro III Amigas (3000 and 4000). ;)
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There was one for sale on Ebay last week-it was £900 though!
Yes, sold for £900
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170847182289&orig_cvip=true
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Hi:
I am watching this thread with much interest.
Pls keep posting !!!
rednova
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The other option is that Jens (Individual Computers) who made the recent accelerators for the 1200 and 600 is supposedly working on one for the A500.
I don't remember the stats totally, but I think it was to be a 68020 with 16M of RAM.
Of course, Jens is really busy, but that will be pretty awesome....
desiv
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I also agree, an A3000 is the way to go, but always take a look at the battery area in a 3000 before buying
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I also agree, an A3000 is the way to go, but always take a look at the battery area in a 3000 before buying
I always find it funny that (at least for me), I would have trouble spending $xxx for an Amiga 3000, but I will pay $xx for a 500, and then $xxx to expand it to the point where I would have spent less on an Amiga 3000 in the first place.. :-)
But its still fun this way..
desiv
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sometimes the fun is to go where things were never meant or imagined to go :)