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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Digiman on April 15, 2012, 11:24:22 PM
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What I mean is there is AROS this and AROS that and it's not obvious what is the newest, most complete version. What do you tell a nostalgic friend to get?
Icaros desktop
Aros Broadway
included install with ARESone computers.
Aros homepage distribution a la 2010 found via google?
AROS needs one native version in one website and downloaded via one easy location/link.
It's confusing as all this Linux Mint/Ubuntu/[other distro] shamblesmaking people look away.
LESS IS MORE!
(native 32bit x86 version of AROS required)
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aros68k obviously!! ;P
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aros68k obviously!! ;P
*hands you your glasses* :)
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Nightly Build from aros.org for a quick test.
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IcarosDesktop for a more thorough test.
The other distributions out there i consider personal distros, people have personalised them to their own needs. Icaros is more a every man and his dog distro, it contains almost every piece of useful Aros software you can find.
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What I mean is there is AROS this and AROS that and it's not obvious what is the newest, most complete version. What do you tell a nostalgic friend to get?
Icaros desktop
Aros Broadway
included install with ARESone computers.
Aros homepage distribution a la 2010 found via google?
AROS needs one native version in one website and downloaded via one easy location/link.
It's confusing as all this Linux Mint/Ubuntu/[other distro] shamblesmaking people look away.
LESS IS MORE!
(native 32bit x86 version of AROS required)
The included install with AresOne computers IS registered Broadway. The nightly builds on the Aros homepage are experimental only and have no testing involved until after they are built.
Icaros is the most complete distro but has duplicate functionality in some places. Also, it comes mostly on DVD-ROM with only a cut-down version on CD-ROM.
Broadway is a more compact distro that fits on CD-ROM by cutting out some of the extra stuff such as some large ported games.
I personally use Icaros because it comes with the development environment pre-installed on the DVD version.
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The included install with AresOne computers IS registered Broadway. The nightly builds on the Aros homepage are experimental only and have no testing involved until after they are built.
Icaros is the most complete distro but has duplicate functionality in some places. Also, it comes mostly on DVD-ROM with only a cut-down version on CD-ROM.
Broadway is a more compact distro that fits on CD-ROM by cutting out some of the extra stuff such as some large ported games.
I personally use Icaros because it comes with the development environment pre-installed on the DVD version.
Need to install it to PC not run it from a DVD, presume Icaros can do this?
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Need to install it to PC not run it from a DVD, presume Icaros can do this?
Yes. There's an install script on the LiveDVD and CD-ROMs of Icaros.
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Yes. There's an install script on the LiveDVD and CD-ROMs of Icaros.
Thanks, will download 1.4.1 live DVD/ISO tonight.
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AROS and all distros are a constant work of progress. AROS is in Alpha stages, so unless your nostalgic friend is into beta testing, trouble shooting, and having his system negatively impacted by updates and what not, I would not advise it as a full time OS yet.
For those of you who would like to contribute, I'd say IcarOS is the most fully featured, but AspireOS is coming along well. I've not tried Broadway, nor the Classic Amiga stuff.
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AROS and all distros are a constant work of progress. AROS is in Alpha stages, so unless your nostalgic friend is into beta testing, trouble shooting, and having his system negatively impacted by updates and what not, I would not advise it as a full time OS yet.
For those of you who would like to contribute, I'd say IcarOS is the most fully featured, but AspireOS is coming along well. I've not tried Broadway, nor the Classic Amiga stuff.
Not as a replacement, he is an avid PC gamer. We were watching a webisode of some Linux show and they reviewed AROS Broadway and he asked me what should we try.
I haven't used AROS myself for years hence the question.
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Nightly Build from aros.org for a quick test.
Please don't recommend the nightlies to end users. They may not work and give a false impression.
For the average homemade-PC user, Icaros is the way to go.
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"AROS is in Alpha stages, so unless your nostalgic friend is into beta testing, trouble shooting, and having his system negatively impacted by updates and what not, I would not advise it as a full time OS yet"
The typical phrases from parts of MorphOS camp that I like so much...
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What I mean is there is AROS this and AROS that and it's not obvious what is the newest, most complete version. What do you tell a nostalgic friend to get?
Icaros desktop
Aros Broadway
included install with ARESone computers.
Aros homepage distribution a la 2010 found via google?
AROS needs one native version in one website and downloaded via one easy location/link.
It's confusing as all this Linux Mint/Ubuntu/[other distro] shamblesmaking people look away.
LESS IS MORE!
(native 32bit x86 version of AROS required)
Broadway is just more multimedia oriented. No problem with choices, there are also 68k, PPC and ARM builds.
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I am generally not of the opinion. The number of distributions are the result of the broad coverage of Aros with different options like hosted (Linux, Android) and processors (X86, ARM, 68k, PPC). Icaros has the biggest number of features, AspireOS is dedicated to netbooks and not the volume of Icaros (more "Amiga"), Broadway X is in future a combination with linux, I work on the 68k distribution that will be downloadable alone and will be integrated in the big Aros distributions. And competition means that all new features will be very fast integrated in the distributions. Or do all here prefer the "speed" that we know in "amigaland". I prefer change...
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Please don't recommend the nightlies to end users. They may not work and give a false impression.
For the average homemade-PC user, Icaros is the way to go.
I said Nightly Build for quick test, you think someone will want to download 1 GB file just to see if it boots correctly?
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I put a minimal install (no decoration, only core OS Apps, plus a few demos and games) on a 64meg USB stick to show a friend on his Laptop... He totally fell in love with it, he hadn't seen "AmigaOS" since '92 and was blown away with it!
I let him keep the memory stick :) he's happy and it works perfectly for him
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AROS needs one native version in one website and downloaded via one easy location/link.
LESS IS MORE!
No problem to me. Just give me € 5,000,000 and I promise I'll never do a Icaros Desktop version again! (I may help other distributors, though, between a trip around the world, a trial of a new sport-machine, a cup of Champagne, and the others) :D
Jokes apart, fragmentation is the other face of freedom. At least on AROS we have a commond ground - standardized by nightlies, mostly for system files - which makes writing software for AROS coherent and fully compatible between nighlties and distributions. X86 software even works both in native and hosted flavours. So the choice is up to the user: with 3 different x86 native distros, they will have the freedom to choose between each of them, according to their different feelings and area of interest.
Icaros Desktop tries to be faithful to the AmigaOS experience, while adding many features people are already accustomed to with other mainstream operating systems. Just imagine it as a "bridge" between Amiga and Win/Linux habits. That's why we ask users to "View -> All files" while offering remote desktop and ftp sharing facilities at the same time.
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Hi just to clear it up:
First was AresOne, than came Broadway.
Broadway is "preconfigured" to have sound and network out of the box when installed on an AresOne which is good for AresOne-customers.
Than IcAROS while it offer nearly everything it offers too much in my opinion.
Too much because you will find a lot stuff which is buggy. Paolo knows this and is trying hard to find buggy things.
So every bug report will help to make it better.
As you say: "less is more"
Than there is personal taste (look and feel)
Also i am free to use other systemfiles.. maybe older (if needed), newer if needed, alternative ones (if needed) to run other things and do some experiments.
That's all. Who knows..maybe there is coming already a complete new distro....
PS: My vision of Broadway is to be minimalistic. Basic. With Jack for example i can leave out nearly everything and the user can decide what to use.