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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: commodorejohn on March 27, 2012, 05:27:07 AM
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Well, I got a replacement Ethernet card (3COM 3C589-D) for my A1200, and there's some progress - now it can get an IP and ping the router without any trouble. However, it can't ping to outside IP addresses or resolve host names. (MiamiDX is set to use DHCP.) I tried plugging it directly into the DSL modem, but that doesn't work at all (don't know if the one Charter uses even supports 10Base-T.) There's no filtering on the router that should be causing any issues, and I don't see any immediately obvious problems with MiamiDX's settings - any idea what I can do to get this working?
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Sounds like its not getting the correct gateway from DHCP.
try miami:miaminetstat -r and see what you have for a gateway.
I'm not sure what to suggest to correct that, other than to set the IP manually as static.
also you probably need to add your DNS (or router IP) under Database/DNS
good luck
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Gateway for the router is listed as "link#3", and Flags is "UC".
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Gateway for the router is listed as "link#3", and Flags is "UC".
mine is
default DD-WRT UGSP 0 0 eth0
dunno about UG vs UGSP means
anyway try and look at Database/DNS and make sore you put something in there
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Did you use MiamiInit to make the configuration file? In my experience MiamiDX DHCP has worked with Every modern router i've tried..
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Okay, ran MiamiInit again. According to the log, it's talking to the DHCP server fine, and even gets IPs for the DNS servers - but it still can't resolve host names or ping to outside IPs :/
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If I were you, I'd just set it up manually - its the best sure fire way of verifying the settings are correct.
If you have a PC, open up a DOS prompt, and type:
c:\>ipconfig /all
you'll get an output that looks a bit like this (I've cut out most of the irrelevant stuff - you'll probably see more than just one adapter e.g. wi-fi, bluetooth, VPN etc etc, but you only need the settings from the adapter you actually use, in the example below, thats the ethernet adapter):
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 199.223.0.24
In Miami enter the gateway, subnet and DNS (there may be more than one DNS server) exactly as per the output you get from ipconfig. In the IP address box type in an address thats in the same range as the IP on you PC, but ensure the last number is not the same as any other device on your network. Using the above example, use an IP of 192.168.0.2 etc.
Hope that helps a bit
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No luck; it doesn't manage to connect via static IP, and I can't find where to put in a static DNS server in Miami...
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This thread may help:
http://www.amiga-club.de/faq/miami_rout.html
it's in German, BUT there are screenshots. The last one shows DNS info. The database section show any DNS that Miami has found, but it looks like you can manually add them.
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A wise man once told me...
> I also can`t seem to edit gateway settings as this is grayed out.
That might indicate that your ethernet card's initial setup went pear-shaped.
Remove all interface-related config entries and try again...
Remember: MiamiInit is your friend ;)
> The Amiga is online cus I can see it from this machine. Its just not
> online with the BTHomehub. I can`t help but feel I need to tell the
> Amiga somehow to use the BTHomehub as its internet gateway.
That's what the 'default gateway' setting's for...
... Which is unavailable if your interface has been set up for
a single-segment LAN initially.
And then....
I decided to give my head a very large bang on the table and
realised the obvious... why not use the MiamiInit facility to set
things up. I did this and worked first time. Had problems negotiating
DNS but as ever with Amiga software, wasn`t put off by this and
just went round it. The Amiga found the hub network address
and set that all up. And it works. The emails just flew in, my
goodness. A 1993 Amiga using broadband... whoo hoo.
I have now lossed the Amiga off the home network, but that I can
probably resolve. Worst case I can just load the old config ... There
really is always a way round things with the Miggy.
And so I can either have the ethernet online and use my Samba with my other PCs or use my other config for just using broadband with the Amiga. I have never been able to have both my internal network working and the broadband online. Once I tagged the default gateway all went fine.
This is assuming you are using the cardreset tool for the bug with the PCMCIA.
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Okay, coming back to this, this is the log file from MiamiInit when I connect via DHCP:
MiamiInit 3.0 Information Sheet
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Miami, MiamiInit Copyright © 1996-1998 Nordic Global Inc.
All rights reserved.
Device settings
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Type: SANA-II bus/ring
Name: 3c589.device
Unit: 0
IP packet type: 2048
Arp packet type: 2054
RArp packet type: 32821
Wire type: 1
Address bits: 48
MTU: 1500
User settings
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User name: commodorejohn
Real name: commodorejohn
Protocol settings
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Local IP address: 192.168.1.102 <dynamically obtained from DHCP server>
Subnet address: 255.255.255.0 <dynamically obtained from DHCP server>
Gateway address: 192.168.1.1 <dynamically obtained from DHCP server>
ICMP is functional with the network setup
DNS settings
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Type of network connecting to: Internet
Host name: amiga1 <specified by user>
DNS is enabled
DNS servers: 68.115.71.53
68.113.206.10
66.189.0.100
(determined from DHCP)All the addresses match what my laptop's got, including the DNS servers, and the IP address is in the router's normal range. Yet it can't resolve domain names or ping outside IPs. Any idea what could be going wrong here, when everything is reported as being right?
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All right, finally got this thing working (there were some things in MiamiDX that hadn't gotten configured, I went through the guide and got everything set up properly.) Took some doing to get a download tool that actually worked (wget just barfed out cryptic "unknown error" messages, but GrabURL worked once I got rexxdossupport.library installed,) but my Amiga is now online at a whopping 10 Mbps :)
So the next question is, what's the best setup for Internet software for a moderately-expanded A1200? (40MHz 030, 32MB RAM, AGA, 4GB CF-over-IDE, ClassicWB 3.1.) Currently I've got Voyager, which is nice and responsive, but wastes a hell of a lot of screen space even with button icons turned off; is there a better browser that can get along pretty well on this setup? Also, is there a mail client for AOS 3.1 that supports SSL/TLS?
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I use IBrowse on my 030/56 and that works decently, if rather pokey. Disabling images can help a lot. I found that redirecting cache to RAM instead of the hard drive helped a little.
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You could try IBrowse 2.4 that works pretty well :)
http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/
(you'll need to Google for a Key as they do not sell them anymore)
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Yeah, I usually use iBrowse for most of my browsing, although I use AWeb sometimes too.
Mostly I connect to m68k.aminet.net. ;-)
AmiIRC works well.
I use AmiTradeCenter for FTP.
If you have AmigaExplorer (by itself or from AmigaForever), that works REALLY WELL for transferring files from the PC.
Basically, I use AmiTradeCenter to pull files if I'm on the Amiga and I use AmigaExplorer to push files if I'm on the laptop.
For a final bit of fun, since I have a MAS Player Evolved from Amigakit for playing MP3s, I can use AmigaAMP and stream audio (shoutcast sites).
One thing I usually do when browsing, I look for mobile versions of sites.
Like eabmobile.abime.net for English Amiga Board, etc...
Not as purty, but works well..
desiv
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iBrowse is running pretty well and is quite responsive, but there's an issue with the Settings window: whenever I direct it to open or display the GUI, HTML, Security, or Network sections, it disappears and won't come up again. And the prefs file is some kind of binary format, so I can't just tweak it in a text editor. Any idea how to resolve this?
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Resolution problem maybe? I've run into that with some "advanced" app's, when I was running in straight up PAL mode.
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Okay, the settings issue was indeed a resolution problem; I put it into interlaced mode, and it switched to the other sections without issue. Annoying, but at least I got it open and got the massive toolbar space trimmed down to a reasonable amount. It's impressively responsive even on the reply page with all the animated emoticons; kudos to any iBrowse developers that might ever happen to wander into this thread. I'm not sure if it'll work with GMail or not, currently it's complaining about the lack of SSL.
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Sweet :)
I accessed Gmail without too much fuss, though it kept suggesting me to upgrade my browser :D
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Okay, the settings issue was indeed a resolution problem; I put it into interlaced mode, and it switched to the other sections without issue. Annoying, but at least I got it open and got the massive toolbar space trimmed down to a reasonable amount. It's impressively responsive even on the reply page with all the animated emoticons; kudos to any iBrowse developers that might ever happen to wander into this thread. I'm not sure if it'll work with GMail or not, currently it's complaining about the lack of SSL.
Yam works fine with gmail and many others, i use it daily.
http://www.yam.ch . you need to install amissl or miamissl to have working SSL.
Amissl is probabaly the easiest route.
Mech
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Yam works fine with gmail and many others, i use it daily.
www.yam.ch (http://www.yam.ch) . you need to install amissl or miamissl to have working SSL.
Amissl is probabaly the easiest route.
Thanx,
I haven't even tried SSL on my A1200 TBH...
One of these days. But for what I use my Amiga for online, I'm not sure it's a priority.
desiv