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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Middleman on March 25, 2012, 11:41:58 AM
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone here know about anyone still making games today for the original Amiga? ie. coding in 16-bit? Just a bit curious about this (as a gamer).....
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It is impossible to code Amigas in 16-bit as there is no such thing as a 16-bit Amiga.
All Amigas ever built can only be programmed in 32-bit because they have 32-bit CPUs.
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It is impossible to code Amigas in 16-bit as there is no such thing as a 16-bit Amiga.
All Amigas ever built can only be programmed in 32-bit because they have 32-bit CPUs.
Sorry for the confusion, I guess it's my habit as a Brit... :lol:
When I said '16-bit games I actually meant Amiga games. '16-bit' is a nickname I've always used to refer to Amiga period games. :)
You see back in my days, the earliest Amigas that we had were all 16-bit. All the magazines referred to the battles between the Amiga and Atari ST called it the '16-bit battles'. You can check this yourself on Wikipedia.....the earliest Amigas DID have 16-bit, only the later ones were changed to 32-bit.
So rephrasing the question what I was meant to ask was….'Is there anyone still making games for the Amiga today?' i.e. adventures/shootemups etc? a la Commando style, Defender of the Crown, Xenon etc? I know that on Lemon Amiga there's been a few out last year (like Prince of Persia for the C64) but nothing that I'm aware of that is new for the Amiga, hence I'm asking....
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That's ChaosLord's ever so subtle way of saying "yes, haven't you heard of my game Total Chaos AGA yet, look at the link in my sig"...
... er, the site is down for maintenance right now however but you can find all the info you need with a google search.
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The last game I can find from the lemon amiga database is from 2005 called desert racing of bardos.
There have probably been others.
I too would refer to the Amiga as 16 bit, especially the earlier ones.
In the UK we always called the C64, amstrad etc 8 bit and the amiga/st 16 bit.
I doubt the early amiga/st computers were truly 32 bit.
On the lemon amiga forums there is a thread from a guy who has released a game called downfall recently.
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You see back in my days, the earliest Amigas that we had were all 16-bit.
No you did not.
There are no 16-bit Amigas. There never have been and there never will be.
The earliest Amiga was the A1000. It can only run 32-bit software.
All the magazines referred to the battles between the Amiga and Atari ST called it the '16-bit battles'.
If your statement is true then "all the magazines" lied.
You can check this yourself on Wikipedia.....the earliest Amigas DID have 16-bit, only the later ones were changed to 32-bit.
1. Wikipedia lied.
2. Wikipedia has testified under oath that Wikipedia is never a reliable source of information.
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Wikipedia has testified under oath that Wikipedia is never a reliable source of information.
Damn it I'm putting that on a T-Shirt!
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That's ChaosLord's ever so subtle way of saying "yes, haven't you heard of my game Total Chaos AGA yet, look at the link in my sig"...
hehehehe I didn't even think of that.
I was so mad about the deragatory insulting accusation of the mighty Amiga running 16-bit games... that was all I could think about. :madashell:
Thank u for getting me back on track :)
... er, the site is down for maintenance right now however but you can find all the info you need with a google search.
Yeah that Total Chaos fansite has been down for months :confused:
@Middleman
Tripitaka is correct, Team Chaos still works on the Total Chaos series of games. As proof that the game really exists and is not 16-bit, you can look at this: http://us4.aminet.net/aminet/docs/rview/TotalChaosAGA-Review.jpg
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There are no 16-bit Amigas. There never have been and there never will be.
The earliest Amiga was the A1000. It can only run 32-bit software.
The 68000 only has 16-bit bus so it was not generally considered a full 32-bit CPU back in the day. The Atari ST's name alludes to this; it stands for Sixteen/Thirty-two (and perhaps also Sam Tramiel). The TT had an 030 so was Thirty-two/Thirty-two.
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hehehehe I didn't even think of that.
I was so mad about the deragatory insulting accusation of the mighty Amiga running 16-bit games... that was all I could think about. :madashell:
Thank u for getting me back on track :)
Yeah that Total Chaos fansite has been down for months :confused:
@Middleman
Tripitaka is correct, Team Chaos still works on the Total Chaos series of games. As proof that the game really exists and is not 16-bit, you can look at this: http://us4.aminet.net/aminet/docs/rview/TotalChaosAGA-Review.jpg
OH....so THAT'S what it was all about! (hehehe)
Thanks for that...I'll have a look! :)
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The 68000 only has 16-bit bus so it was not generally considered a full 32-bit CPU back in the day. The Atari ST's name alludes to this; it stands for Sixteen/Thirty-two (and perhaps also Sam Tramiel). The TT had an 030 so was Thirty-two/Thirty-two.
if they had gotten to 64 would have been the Atari SS
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if they had gotten to 64 would have been the Atari SS
Given Jack Tramiel's history, I think he might have skipped the SS tag ;)
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Given Jack Tramiel's history, I think he might have skipped the SS tag ;)
I think you might be right on that one, :D
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone here know about anyone still making games today for the original Amiga? ie. coding in 16-bit? Just a bit curious about this (as a gamer).....
Nobody, the current games are made for little teams or snipers, the software houses now work for markets with moneys movements.
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The 68000 only has 16-bit bus so it was not generally considered a full 32-bit CPU back in the day. The Atari ST's name alludes to this; it stands for Sixteen/Thirty-two (and perhaps also Sam Tramiel). The TT had an 030 so was Thirty-two/Thirty-two.
The 68000 only has a 16 bit DATA bus. The address bus is 23 bits. The general purpose registers are 32 bits.
Data bus: 16 bits
Address bus: 23 bits
Address Register Size: 32 bits
Data Register size: 32 bits
Instruction size: variable (multiple of 16 bits)
As far as programming goes, it looks and acts like 32 bits. You are right that it is generally considered a 16/32 bit hybrid CPU.
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It is impossible to code Amigas in 16-bit as there is no such thing as a 16-bit Amiga.
All Amigas ever built can only be programmed in 32-bit because they have 32-bit CPUs.
Hi,
Check your specs, all amigas that use the 68000 series motorola are 16/32.
I know I am being picky.
smerf
I am now listening to Amiga MODS with VLC on Ubuntu 11.10, funny how you can make Linux act like an Amiga without a EUAE.
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OCS and ECS are 16bit and so is the DMA bus architecture for chipset<->CPU<->RAM. As you are programming the 16bit OCS/ECS and all chip/fast memory access is 16bit so your games are running on a 16bit computer ergo they're 16bit games.
Calling Amiga 500/600/1000/1500/2000 32bit systems is as wrong as calling the Atari Jaguar a 64bit console.
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OCS and ECS are 16bit and so is the DMA bus architecture for chipset<->CPU<->RAM. As you are programming the 16bit OCS/ECS and all chip/fast memory access is 16bit so your games are running on a 16bit computer ergo they're 16bit games.
Calling Amiga 500/600/1000/1500/2000 32bit systems is as wrong as calling the Atari Jaguar a 64bit console.
Thanks for that Digiman..... :)
@ChaosLord
Actually that review you gave me was really fun to read, I really enjoyed it! Cos I've never ever seen a games review that gave a game a complete 100%. And it was so honest to boot....best review ever! :D
@Tripitaka
I had a look at Desert Racing of BarDos...it doesn't look bad at all! Read the comments too...some felt it needed more memory to run or have it ported to PowerPC. But it looks good! :)
Generally speaking though, I'm REALLY REALLY surprised no one is coding 16-bit games anymore, not even as a hobby or small project. It would be great if somebody did it for the Amiga a la Prince of Persia C64, like Mr Sid has > http://popc64.blogspot.com (http://popc64.blogspot.com)