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Title: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 20, 2012, 07:23:08 PM
Hey guys,

I have just one question to ask you. If I buy this simple cable http://www.vesalia.de/e_amiga1541kabel.htm and obtain a commodore 1541-II, upgrade my Amiga from 68030 to 68060 @ 50 Mhz or even 66 Mhz with 64 MB of RAM or even 128 MB of RAM and use the software magic64 and instead of having it emulate the 1541-II disk drive which would slow things down horribly, instead it uses the real disk drive to play C64 games...can I have my Amiga 1200 turn into a c64 by software emulation and play C64 games on my A1200 with FAST emulation much like AmiMSX and still be 98% compatible to Commodore 64 games? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: sledge on March 20, 2012, 07:42:19 PM
You will be able to use Magic64 if you get a 060-card indeed. It gives you a pretty good emulation. But using a real 1541-II instead of d64-files won't give that much boost I think.

Magic64 was good, and perhaps still is on the Amiga. VICE is available for the 68k Amigas aswell, and eventhough I have never used VICE on the Amiga, but VICE is damn much better than Magic64 nowdays.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 20, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
Quote from: sledge;684521
You will be able to use Magic64 if you get a 060-card indeed. It gives you a pretty good emulation. But using a real 1541-II instead of d64-files won't give that much boost I think.

Magic64 was good, and perhaps still is on the Amiga. VICE is available for the 68k Amigas aswell, and eventhough I have never used VICE on the Amiga, but VICE is damn much better than Magic64 nowdays.

But VICE IS IMPOSSIBLE to run on a 68060, vice needs a video card and at least like 200 Mhz or more to run it smoothly. This will not work on my 68060 with AGA custom chipset, so VICE is out of my ball game.

So would Magic64 run like at 30 fps smoothly with 68060 and can you put a percentage to how much compatibility magic64 have on my A1200 and in terms of graphics etc, can you put a percentage? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: foleyjo on March 20, 2012, 08:23:36 PM
Without the addition of a video card the Magic 64 is the fastest with an 060 but you won't get full speed without using some workbench patches (fblit, blazewcp etc) and you will need frameskip too. Real sid won't work too well either.

It's also not 100% compatible and some games will suffer with glitches and others just won't work.

Frodo V2 can run at a decent speed with the right patches and settings with a frameskip but again it's not 100% compatible.

Your best option is to get a C64
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 20, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
if I am going to get a c64 I better get a Commodore 128D, only just because I do not have enough space for C64 with it's separate power supplies, disk drive's, etc. With a commodore 128D it is compact and space friendly..but that is in the future.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: CritAnime on March 20, 2012, 08:33:26 PM
I would love a 128d. But I have a C64c so I don't need another lol.

Been reading this thread with interest. Shame I wouldn't be able to do this on my little 030.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 20, 2012, 08:37:43 PM
Quote from: CritAnime;684536
I would love a 128d. But I have a C64c so I don't need another lol.

Been reading this thread with interest. Shame I wouldn't be able to do this on my little 030.


Yes but the insane prices that Commodore 128D is being sold in eBay is HORRENDOUSLY crazy! I am not paying 3000 dollars for a Commodore 128D nor am I am going to spend 6000 to 8000 dollars USA for a Commodore 128D. I will also wait for these CRAZY prices to drop down to a more rational price like say 200 maximum for a Commodore 128D even then that is crazy price...maybe 80 dollars for a Commodore 128D seems more appropriate price.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: CritAnime on March 20, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
I love my C64c. Fits in nicely with the asthetics of the 600 and 1200 I already have :)
 
But I would love to get emulation running properly on my 600. I know it's never gonna happen though :(
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 20, 2012, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: CritAnime;684552
I love my C64c. Fits in nicely with the asthetics of the 600 and 1200 I already have :)
 
But I would love to get emulation running properly on my 600. I know it's never gonna happen though :(

HAVE THE WORLD WENT CRAZY!!!??


http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMMODORE-64-TEST-PILOT-BUNDLE-TESTED-WORKING-64C-1541-II-/260984260595?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc3dfc7f3
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: amiman99 on March 20, 2012, 11:13:55 PM
I used to have that "Test Pilot" package with C64C and floppy drive.
I payed $299 in Toys'R'Us in 1990, my first computer.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: amiman99 on March 20, 2012, 11:41:05 PM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;684538
Yes but the insane prices that Commodore 128D is being sold in eBay is HORRENDOUSLY crazy! I am not paying 3000 dollars for a Commodore 128D nor am I am going to spend 6000 to 8000 dollars USA for a Commodore 128D. I will also wait for these CRAZY prices to drop down to a more rational price like say 200 maximum for a Commodore 128D even then that is crazy price...maybe 80 dollars for a Commodore 128D seems more appropriate price.
Someone made one 128D "Buy It Now" for couple $1000s and most followed. When you look at completed items, most C128Ds sell for $200-$300, so that's the more realistic price.
Still kinda high, but someone is willing to pay that much.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: magnetic on March 20, 2012, 11:45:27 PM
The thread is how to run C64 stuff on an A1200. Not how and where to buy used c64 and c128!  I'm interested in c64 emu on my a1200 too. Are there any tutorials on this?
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: CritAnime on March 21, 2012, 12:30:56 AM
Sorry didn't realise discussing alternatives wasn't an option O_O In any case I have only ever had Vice working correctly twice and both times was using AmiKit. Even then it didn't run exactly smooth and it was a little hit and miss over what it wouldn't and would play. Don't know if it's down to emulating an amiga which is emulating a C64.
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 21, 2012, 02:10:06 AM
Wow!  I can't believe the number of C128s and C128ds I passed up buying in Thrift stores for a few bucks in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

I never thought they'd go up to a regular 200-300 dollars a piece!
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 21, 2012, 02:12:55 AM
Quote from: ral-clan;684582
Wow!  I can't believe the number of C128s and C128ds I passed up buying in Thrift stores for a few bucks in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

I never thought they'd go up to a regular 200-300 dollars a piece!





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---> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-COMMODORE-1571-vintage-computer-disk-drive-for-C64-C128-/260973914340?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc341e8e4 <--- :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :hammer: :hammer::hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
Title: Re: Turn my A1200 into C64?
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 21, 2012, 02:25:42 AM
TPUG (Toronto, Canada) may have some C128s for sale at a reasonable price.

http://www.tpug.ca/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73&Itemid=70

By the way, I did use Magic64 back in the day on my 68040 Amiga2000.  It ran pretty well, although it couldn't play everything.  I did have to use frameskip to bring it close to normal C64 speed.  I also tried FRODO but while it was more accurate it was too slow on a 68040.