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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: maverich on March 12, 2012, 02:31:42 PM
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I am the curator of a museum of computers, I have an Amiga 500 and Amiga 2000 without an operating system, only with two game discs. I would like to know how to recreate the disks via a PC, I'd like to use them not as gaming machines.
I'm completely unskilled about amiga.
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Unfortunately you cant natively make Amiga OS disks using a PC. Once you have the Amiga operating, and if you have a way to get Amiga Disk images from the PC to the Amiga (one way is the fact that Amigas running OS 2.0 or later can read PC formatted disks) then you can use the PC to get the images, transfer them to the Amiga, and have the Amiga write out the disk in the Amiga format.
I will send you a PM to get in touch with me, I can get some Amiga OS disks to you to get you started.
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That's not completely true, if you get an addon like Kryoflux (http://www.kryoflux.com/) for the pc/mac, you can write ADF images on a pc.
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True, and you can with a Catweasel ($120) also, but that isn't quite native since you need to go get hardware to do it and in the case of Kryoflux have to get something that is out of stock (though pretty good looking I may have to get in on that next production run).
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@Maverich
Where are you located?
I am sure there are many friendly Amiga users in your neighborhood who could drop by and sort you out.
p.s. Amiga500 was primarily used as a gaming machine. So it would be proper for it to be running games on display.
Yes I know that the Amiga 500 ran many powerful business programs but a majority of users spent a majority of their time playing games on it, as it was the ultimate game machine of that era. Far surpassing the competition.
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@Maverich
Where are you located?
I am sure there are many friendly Amiga users in your neighborhood who could drop by and sort you out.
p.s. Amiga500 was primarily used as a gaming machine. So it would be proper for it to be running games on display.
Yes I know that the Amiga 500 ran many powerful business programs but a majority of users spent a majority of their time playing games on it, as it was the ultimate game machine of that era. Far surpassing the competition.
I do agree with you that the amiga was used primarily used for playing games. Although for historical purposes AmigaOS is a fine example of an early "window" based environment and while maybe not the first in the hands of consumers it was certainly the cream of the crop at the time, pipped Microsoft to the mark and most likely the first experience many people had of a WIMP based system. As such i think the Amiga Operating system is all too often ignored historically a key player in the industry at the time. The AmigaOS was almost certainly influential in future iterations of MacOS and windows.
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@Polyp2000
He has an A2000 that can demonstrate Workbench, CLI, Multitasking, ProWrite 3.3, CygnusEd Professional, PageStream, etc. etc. ad infinitum.
The Amiga was a revolutionary machine, it has a lot to show.
If I would have known about this museum a long long time ago I would have donated it an Amiga 4000, which I gave away for free (because I do everything on my Amiga 1200, which is better).
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there was a hack that allowed reading if one has two PC floppy drives, too bad it couldn't write? also another one used a wire from parallel port (iirc) to fdd, but that one couldn't write too (I think)
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I am the curator of a museum of computers, I have an Amiga 500 and Amiga 2000 without an operating system, only with two game discs. I would like to know how to recreate the disks via a PC, I'd like to use them not as gaming machines.
I'm completely unskilled about amiga.
There are means and ways to getting disks but this may mean tracking them down either through Ebay or communicating with an Amiga user that may help. Given that you are a curator of a museum maybe you could tell us a bit more about the museum and how many machines you have. I have like hundreds of computers and all my stuff is online to see. I also have many many disks with the information on. When you collect computers seriously you do get the disks with what you collect. Just intrigued by the size of you museum.
By the way I never would copy disks for anyone but in the interests of maintaining the Amiga legacy I would certainly help with originals if I knew the request was genuine.
You also may want to check this link out... not me I should add.
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/
All the best.
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@Maverich
Where are you located?
I am sure there are many friendly Amiga users in your neighborhood who could drop by and sort you out.
I live in Italy.
but found anyone who could help me till now...
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There are means and ways to getting disks but this may mean tracking them down either through Ebay or communicating with an Amiga user that may help. Given that you are a curator of a museum maybe you could tell us a bit more about the museum and how many machines you have. I have like hundreds of computers and all my stuff is online to see. I also have many many disks with the information on. When you collect computers seriously you do get the disks with what you collect. Just intrigued by the size of you museum.
By the way I never would copy disks for anyone but in the interests of maintaining the Amiga legacy I would certainly help with originals if I knew the request was genuine.
You also may want to check this link out... not me I should add.
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/
All the best.
Yes you're right, but the amiga donor wasn't an amiga user, he only collected hardware!
My museum is very very tiny, it has academic purposes and... no funds!!!
you can visit it virtually at
http://museo.dagomari.prato.it
or coming here in Prato, Tuscany, Italy.
I thank you all for all your advices, but noone giving me a (cheap) solution: will I ever see Amiga OS in action?
regards
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That's not completely true, if you get an addon like Kryoflux (http://www.kryoflux.com/) for the pc/mac, you can write ADF images on a pc.
Well, in the future that is. The maker of the Kryoflux is working hard on it atm. With enough donations, he can take days off to work full-time on it.
As the topic submitter states, he/she runs a computer museum. In that case he/she should really look closely at the development of the kryoflux, because software development of the catweasel is stalled AFAIK. Meanwhile, I personally use AmigaExplorer for all my Amiga backup/restore needs. But then again I do have workbench.
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Well, in the future that is. The maker of the Kryoflux is working hard on it atm. With enough donations, he can take days off to work full-time on it.
As the topic submitter states, he/she runs a computer museum. In that case he/she should really look closely at the development of the kryoflux, because software development of the catweasel is stalled AFAIK. Meanwhile, I personally use AmigaExplorer for all my Amiga backup/restore needs. But then again I do have workbench.
The latest software version v2.0 Beta 9 supports adf writing. This was just released in the last 1-2 weeks.
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Yes you're right, but the amiga donor wasn't an amiga user, he only collected hardware!
My museum is very very tiny, it has academic purposes and... no funds!!!
you can visit it virtually at
http://museo.dagomari.prato.it
or coming here in Prato, Tuscany, Italy.
I thank you all for all your advices, but noone giving me a (cheap) solution: will I ever see Amiga OS in action?
regards
There are lots of Italian users here who will be able to send you the correct Workbench Disks. Be patient :)
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@Maverich
Where are you located?
I am sure there are many friendly Amiga users in your neighborhood who could drop by and sort you out.
Just out of curiosity how many Amiga users are in your neighborhood, friendly or otherwise? I think if I expand my definition of "neighborhood" to include half the Eastern seaboard, there are about six...
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@Jorkany
There are 21 Texans here:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/group.php?groupid=57
And those are only the ones crazy enough be a member of Amiga.org and then track down and join the Texas social group.
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There are means and ways to getting disks but this may mean tracking them down either through Ebay or communicating with an Amiga user that may help. Given that you are a curator of a museum maybe you could tell us a bit more about the museum and how many machines you have. I have like hundreds of computers and all my stuff is online to see. I also have many many disks with the information on. When you collect computers seriously you do get the disks with what you collect. Just intrigued by the size of you museum.
By the way I never would copy disks for anyone but in the interests of maintaining the Amiga legacy I would certainly help with originals if I knew the request was genuine.
You also may want to check this link out... not me I should add.
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/
All the best.
Hi Greg,
no one helped me till now, you are the only that showed me something we could do.
so, can you send me the disk?
regards,
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Hi Greg,
no one helped me till now, you are the only that showed me something we could do.
so, can you send me the disk?
regards,
Salve!
You might check http://amiga.ikirsector.it/forum/viewforum.php?f=47 - it is a rather vivid Italian Amiga forum. I am more than sure you will get disks delivered personally and quickly by some of our Italian Amiga fellows.