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Title: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: trip6 on March 10, 2012, 01:04:14 AM
When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available? The anticipation is killing me... Has anyone heard anything from Mike J? Its looks like the amiga firmware core has been updated from previously... Are they ready for primetime?
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: mikej on March 10, 2012, 08:57:57 AM
Hi,
I have been a bit snowed under recently with the day job.
Most of the first batch are now assembled, about 20% have shipped. I am mailing out to people on the list as boards are ready, asking if they still want them, taking payment and shipping immediately.

I have been working on Jakub's code to make it a little bit more generic (to support other cores). I would like to ship boards with this new code which is nearly working.
I am going to send out to current board owners a beta release probably on Sunday.

I want to get this all done before I kick off batch 3 with the factory. They have sourced most of the components, but I don't want to get more PCBs made until I am happy with the new memory controller. (I have about 9 boards where the memory interface is not reliable so improving the memory timing is important)

The pace is picking up now though...
/Mike
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: trip6 on March 10, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
Thanks for the update Mike J... cant wait to get one in hand with the backplane cover for my mini itx case.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: Darrin on March 10, 2012, 04:27:32 PM
Quote from: mikej;683136
I am going to send out to current board owners a beta release probably on Sunday.

/Mike


Yes!!!  Great news Mike.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: wizard66 on March 10, 2012, 04:32:14 PM
Yes a core update sweet !!!!
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: amiman99 on March 10, 2012, 09:14:57 PM
What's the price? Did the 2nd batch sold out?

I have been watching this development for some time, spread over multiple forums.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: mfilos on March 10, 2012, 09:56:44 PM
I guess best option of information you can get is via emailing Mike.
Haven't got a reply since last April but hey... he's a busy man :)
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: DLH on March 11, 2012, 01:37:50 AM
Everybody says 'Email Mike', just don't expect a reply or you are going to be disappointed.
 
DLH
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: freqmax on March 11, 2012, 07:49:40 AM
@MikeJ, Is the current memory controller too optimisitic regardning timing etc?
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: Haranguer on March 11, 2012, 08:10:48 AM
Quote from: DLH;683208
Everybody says 'Email Mike', just don't expect a reply or you are going to be disappointed.
 
DLH


No, you won't be.  Mike is very, very busy, but he will reply.  Just be a little patient.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: mikej on March 11, 2012, 03:54:47 PM
Quote from: freqmax;683215
@MikeJ, Is the current memory controller too optimisitic regardning timing etc?


Well I may not get the new core out today, but soon.
The memory controller has very relaxed timing actually and the performance can be increased. It needs to be a little more flexible in the IO timing as I'm seeing some differences between boards. I do memory controllers for a living, so it's not an issue.

I do try to email everybody back, if I don't then mail me back, I've probably not got the mail.
Cheers,
MikeJ
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: freqmax on March 11, 2012, 10:40:36 PM
I don't think the code has to be "perfect". Likely better to provide firmware that can be upgraded in the field and ship more rapidly.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: digiflip on March 23, 2012, 09:02:33 PM
does any1 know when the new fpgarcade website be up & running and when orders can be done on mikes site?
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: digiflip on March 24, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
found my original email to mike, hoping to get my reply soon to buy fpga replay and daughterboard 060 too.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: pampers on March 25, 2012, 02:51:48 PM
Yesterday at one of Amiga Meetings (AmiWawa 4) in Poland we could see FPGArcade in action with 060 daughterboard. Such a little cute baby she is ;)
I'm attaching few pictures, there are few more taken by one of the amigans at party (Qkiz):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0MVWLA47Q0Q/T24VGbo52pI/AAAAAAAAImg/pGXFN8jBTTI/s802/DSC00281.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DKMkKqugHD8/T24YDUlKfMI/AAAAAAAAIm8/LuHn8qSKyxc/s802/DSC00283.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8L9QNsg8S6M/T24YFjdpZ4I/AAAAAAAAInM/vFIbsIolC4Y/s802/DSC00285.JPG
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: wawrzon on March 25, 2012, 03:09:42 PM
78mips.. does sys info gets only non scalar result or was 060 run at 50mhz?
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: wizard66 on March 25, 2012, 03:17:09 PM
@Pampers Thanks for sharing the nice pic's

Looks Like Yacube's personal FPGAArcade setup ;-)
If we only get are hands on the new core update, that RTG picture looks great..

Daughterboard will come soon (I hope)
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: matthey on March 25, 2012, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;685302
78mips.. does sys info gets only non scalar result or was 060 run at 50mhz?

The SysInfo MIPS test does not know about superscaler. It's a pretty poor test anyway. SysSpeed is pretty close though.

CSMK3 68060@75MHz

SysSpeed
71764 DHRYSTONES
74.91 MIPS
50.33 MFLOPS  
1.40 CHIPRAM vs A3000

My MIPS are higher for some reason but the fpgaArcade 68060 has better DHRYSTONES for some reason. There must be some caches turned off on the fpgaArcade 68060? I like the chip ram speed of the fpga chip memory ;).

SysSpeed
99.15 MIPS
39.60 MFLOPS

You didn't go to AmiWawa? Isn't wawa a shortened version of your (Polish?) 1st name? Is AmiWawa just a coincidence?
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: wawrzon on March 25, 2012, 04:27:15 PM
i live in berlin, now visiting my parents in the south of germany so its a little far form me.

wawa is short ow wawrzyniec (laurent) i use it since childhood, and at that time none has referred to warsaw (warszawa) as wa-wa. y know you have supermarket in the states the same name of;).
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: Kremlar on March 25, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
So tiny!  Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: freqmax on July 09, 2013, 09:41:54 AM
Quote from: mikej;683244
The memory controller has very relaxed timing actually and the performance can be increased. It needs to be a little more flexible in the IO timing as I'm seeing some differences between boards. I do memory controllers for a living, so it's not an issue.


How much difference is it between the boards? I guess it's the memory chip itself that varies and not the FPGA etc.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: mikej on July 09, 2013, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: freqmax;740312
How much difference is it between the boards? I guess it's the memory chip itself that varies and not the FPGA etc.


Both actually, but only a little. This was an anticipated problem, it was just the entire first batch worked fine. With the new controller it is very solid.
/MikeJ
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: freqmax on July 09, 2013, 01:02:52 PM
Just trying to get a handle on how many % the timing differs within a batch of memory chips.
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: smartroad on July 10, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
I'd love to put my name down to get one of these. I'll 3D print a case to make it look somewhat like an old wedge Amiga :P

Is there a plan for the layout of the board (size and mounting holes?)
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: cunnpole on July 10, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: smartroad;740476
I'd love to put my name down to get one of these. I'll 3D print a case to make it look somewhat like an old wedge Amiga :P

Is there a plan for the layout of the board (size and mounting holes?)


Which 3d printer are you planning on using and would you mind releasing the 3d file if it all works out? I was tempted to try the same, but haven't got the printer yet :(

From here (http://www.fpgaarcade.com/dev/drupal/?q=node/5) "Tiny size of 140x100mm, fits any mini-ITX cabinet"
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: mikej on July 11, 2013, 07:16:18 AM
Quote from: smartroad;740476
I'd love to put my name down to get one of these. I'll 3D print a case to make it look somewhat like an old wedge Amiga :P

Is there a plan for the layout of the board (size and mounting holes?)


Yes, it's somewhere on the website but I'll put up a new page with all the resources.
/MikeJ
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: smartroad on July 11, 2013, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: cunnpole;740477
Which 3d printer are you planning on using and would you mind releasing the 3d file if it all works out? I was tempted to try the same, but haven't got the printer yet :(

From here (http://www.fpgaarcade.com/dev/drupal/?q=node/5) "Tiny size of 140x100mm, fits any mini-ITX cabinet"


I have a small eMaker Huxley, but have almost finished (just waiting to get the extruder parts that can't be printed) building a new one capable of a 200x200x160mm print envelope.

@Mike, could you pop on here the page once it is up, i'll keep looking myself but in case I miss it! :lol:
Title: Re: When will FPGA Arcade Replay Batch 2 be available?
Post by: mikej on July 11, 2013, 12:59:37 PM
Quote from: smartroad;740546
I have a small eMaker Huxley, but have almost finished (just waiting to get the extruder parts that can't be printed) building a new one capable of a 200x200x160mm print envelope.

@Mike, could you pop on here the page once it is up, i'll keep looking myself but in case I miss it! :lol:


Send me an email and I'll mail the dwg files to you.
/Mike