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Title: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: SysAdmin on February 26, 2012, 08:26:17 PM
For Immediate Release - That Means Now Dammitt!

http://www.discreetfx.com/Aladeen4D.html

Aladdin 4D has been renamed Aladeen 4D

:(

We were conquered and had no choice!

On February 26th, 2012 DiscreetFX surrendered all inventory, source code and intellectual property rights to his Holiness and Excellency Admiral General Aladeen. Aladeen 4D is one of his many conquests and he will be updating and releasing a new 6.0 version for OS X Lion, AmigaOS 4.x, MorphOS 2.x, AROS, and Linux. Admiral General Aladeen said the Windows version of Aladdin 4D is cancelled because Megan Fox does not like that OS. We hope it will not take another 1000 years for version 6.0 to be finished!

Oscars 48 Hour Sale! (http://www.discreetfx.com/Aladeen4D.html)

When the Oscar's Start You Are Allowed to Buy it!

Unbest regards

DiscreetFX Team
(Captured and being help prisoner in the Mighty Nation of Wadiya)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: bitman on February 26, 2012, 08:50:18 PM
??? Seriously, what are you talking about?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Hans_ on February 26, 2012, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: bitman;681614
??? Seriously, what are you talking about?


You might understand this a bit better if you knew who Admiral General Aladeen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AAvRyro6_Y) is.

Hans
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 26, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
Sexy Time!

:)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Methuselas on February 27, 2012, 12:26:46 AM
LOL! Good one. You got me. My mouth was open on this one.....
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 27, 2012, 12:28:57 AM
Quote from: Methuselas;681628
LOL! Good one. You got me. My mouth was open on this one.....


Thanx, we try hard.


:)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Methuselas on February 27, 2012, 03:10:16 AM
Quote from: Pyromania;681629
Thanx, we try hard.


:)


Yeah, I'm not an easy mark, either. :lol:
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: hooligan on February 27, 2012, 05:40:37 AM
I deleted your newsitem at Morphzone. I just don't feel an advertisement wrapped as a joke belongs to our frontpage, sorry.

I have a feeling many won't like your sense of humour on this :)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: SysAdmin on February 27, 2012, 05:49:18 AM
Quote from: hooligan;681634
I deleted your newsitem at Morphzone. I just don't feel an advertisement wrapped as a joke belongs to our frontpage, sorry.

I have a feeling many won't like your sense of humour on this :)

You just might be right about that.

:)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: hooligan on February 27, 2012, 06:53:55 AM
Talking of The Dictator, I look forward to this movie. Huge fan of Borat, Bruno and Ali G chracters. One of the most talented comedians alive thats for sure.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: magnetic on February 27, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
Cool look forward to ALADDIN 6 on Amiga NG systems
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: eliyahu on February 27, 2012, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: magnetic;681643
Cool look forward to ALADDIN 6 on Amiga NG systems
hey, magnetic, welcome back! at least one good thing has come from the debacle that was this promotion on AWN. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: SysAdmin on February 27, 2012, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;681675
hey, magnetic, welcome back! at least one good thing has come from the debacle that was this promotion on AWN. :)

-- eliyahu


The humorless scoundrels at AWN have banned this news item so now you will have to read it here or on EAB. Of course you also have the option of annihilating  it with extreme prejudice or not reading it at all.

:)


Silly Rabbit (AWN) Trix are for kids!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trix_(cereal)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: number6 on February 27, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: Transition;681676
The humorless scoundrels at AWN have banned this news item so now you will have to read it here or on EAB. Of course you also have the option of annihilating  it with extreme prejudice or not reading it at all.

:)


Silly Rabbit (AWN) Trix are for kids!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trix_(cereal)



It's not about how -you- read your own news story. It's about how others read it. Obviously (since the thread has been deleted) it was not seen in the same light by the users. Perhaps next time try out your approach on a few people and ask them how it reads?

#6
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 27, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
@number6

Yes perhaps, we briefed one person about the news item before posting it but in the future we should allow a few people from several countries to check it out ahead of time.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: persia on February 27, 2012, 06:37:01 PM
You do realise that Aladdin Systems was force to change it's name to Allume Systems because of a Trademark dispute with Aladdin Knowledge Systems (which is now known as SafeNet).

(http://www.seeklogo.com/images/A/Aladdin_Knowledge_Systems-logo-586E3A3AA0-seeklogo.com.gif)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 27, 2012, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: persia;681691
You do realise that Aladdin Systems was force to change it's name to Allume Systems because of a Trademark dispute with Aladdin Knowledge Systems (which is now known as SafeNet).

(http://www.seeklogo.com/images/A/Aladdin_Knowledge_Systems-logo-586E3A3AA0-seeklogo.com.gif)


We have documented proof of the name Aladdin 4D going way way way back. This is in many forms including but not limited to published magazine articles & Ads.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: orb85750 on February 28, 2012, 04:24:12 AM
We're too far away from April 1st for this crap.  I hate to see what you'll come up with then. :-)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Darrin on February 28, 2012, 04:26:26 AM
Well I thought it was funny :)

Borat had me in stitches too.  Didn't think too much of Bruno and I've never seen any Ali G sketches.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: magnetic on February 28, 2012, 05:19:22 AM
Quote from: persia;681691
You do realise that Aladdin Systems was force to change it's name to Allume Systems because of a Trademark dispute with Aladdin Knowledge Systems (which is now known as SafeNet).

(http://www.seeklogo.com/images/A/Aladdin_Knowledge_Systems-logo-586E3A3AA0-seeklogo.com.gif)

IF that doesnt look some Illumanti BS nothing does...

Notice how that "ring" circles the entire pyramid (which represents the globe and all of us) and naturally the "capstone" where the "all seeing eye" usually goes is once again above the ring of control.. amazing. Once you know symbology the whole planet starts to resemble "They Live!"
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: takemehomegrandma on February 28, 2012, 09:12:44 AM
Quote from: magnetic;681746
IF that doesnt look some Illumanti BS nothing does...

Notice how that "ring" circles the entire pyramid (which represents the globe and all of us) and naturally the "capstone" where the "all seeing eye" usually goes is once again above the ring of control.. amazing. Once you know symbology the whole planet starts to resemble "They Live!"


Well, even a paranoid can be persecuted...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: SysAdmin on February 28, 2012, 12:13:11 PM
Less than 12 hours left for this 50% off sale.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: takemehomegrandma on February 28, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: Transition;681758
Less than 12 hours left for this 50% off sale.


"We hope it will not take another 1000 years for version 6.0 to be finished!"

Until the MorphOS (or others) version is released, even a 100% off sale would be worthless...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 28, 2012, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;681760
"We hope it will not take another 1000 years for version 6.0 to be finished!"

Until the MorphOS (or others) version is released, even a 100% off sale would be worthless...


Hey that's a low blow!


:)


We did not have control of Aladdin 4D when it was originally being developed in the Middle Ages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages

Updating it so its not **** takes many hours, time and effort. Better to do it the right way.

:)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Ral-Clan on February 28, 2012, 02:45:36 PM
I know that version 6.0 is being made for MacOS, AmigaOS (PPC) and Linux.

But will there be a 6.0 for 68K Amigas?  

Since it is mostly an updating of the software and bugfixing, is there any technical reason why it can't be ported to OS3.9 68K?

It would be great to at least get the bugfixes in a 68K version.  If not version 6.0 for classic Amigas, perhaps a version 5.5 with only the bugfixes?

I've been waiting a long time.  Aladdin is great on OS3.9 but there are a few bugs/quirks here and there that need to be squashed (these are usually on advanced / deeper functions so I don't want to dissuade any new users from buying this software - and there are always work arounds).

None of the bugs are big problems (i.e. they don't crash the application), they are just odd behaviours under certain circumstances or certain features not functioning as described.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 28, 2012, 02:47:32 PM
@ral-clan

It is being discussed internally. Some of the newer features like MUI support and modern filters would benefit the 68k version. Bug fixes being done in the rewrite would also benefit the 68k version of the software.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: SysAdmin on February 28, 2012, 11:03:05 PM
FYI

50% off sale ends in less than 2 hours.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Methuselas on February 29, 2012, 12:59:20 AM
Quote from: Pyromania;681765
Hey that's a low blow!
We did not have control of Aladdin 4D when it was originally being developed in the Middle Ages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages

Updating it so its not **** takes many hours, time and effort. Better to do it the right way.

:)



*snort*
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: warpdesign on February 29, 2012, 07:47:22 AM
You already missed your previous deadline by a full year and four months (see: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49447). Now, instead of at least admitting in public that you failed to deliver (remember: buyers who wanted to should have been refunded), you disguise a new sale ad for your already soon 1 year and a half late product, which has no ETA.

And by doing so, you keep trying to sell your old Aladdin v5 to people waiting for a modern PPC renderer...

Am I the only one not getting the sense of... how do you call it ? "humor" ?

I would perfectly understand it if you had a product released, or at least publicy admitted you failed to deliver. But instead, you make it seem as if everything was perfect, on schedule,...

At least, be honest towards your customers.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 29, 2012, 12:13:04 PM
@warpdesign

The problem here is I don't know how to program in C. DiscreetFX Labs is working on Aladdin 4D 6.0, they are not done with it yet. I want it available more than anyone. We don't have customers waiting on the wings of nothingness. Anyone that really wanted a refund already got one. Believe it or not people enjoy and use Aladdin 4D 5.x everyday.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: persia on February 29, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
I'm still not quite sure what your program does.  What's a similar program in the PC/Mac world?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on February 29, 2012, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: persia;681862
I'm still not quite sure what your program does.  What's a similar program in the PC/Mac world?


Aladdin 4D is a entry level, beginners 3D animation/rendering program. It makes pretty pictures and animations.

http://www.discreetfx.com/Aladdin4DGallery.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8m_fc-LX0
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: warpdesign on March 01, 2012, 12:19:26 AM
@Pyromania: then what about stop selling/advertising something that doesn't exist and you obviously have no idea as to when (and if) it will be completed ?

And selling what you already got (bought): Aladdin, v5, Amiga68k version.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: Pyromania on March 01, 2012, 12:35:02 AM
Quote from: warpdesign;681929
@Pyromania: then what about stop selling/advertising something that doesn't exist and you obviously have no idea as to when (and if) it will be completed ?

And selling what you already got (bought): Aladdin, v5, Amiga68k version.


We don't sell Aladdin 4D 6.0, are you are telling us to stop selling version 5.x?  if so, sorry to inform you we will not do that. We have put a lot of R&D funds into Aladdin 4D development and there is nothing wrong with selling the current version. It has cool features like gaseous effects and renders very faaaaaaaaast in Amiga Virtual Machines. You are welcome not to buy it if it does not interest you.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: yssing on March 01, 2012, 10:26:25 AM
This movie is going to be great, I hope.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: vox on March 02, 2012, 04:01:02 PM
Quote from: Transition;681611
For Immediate Release - That Means Now Dammitt!

http://www.discreetfx.com/Aladeen4D.html

Aladdin 4D has been renamed Aladeen 4D

(Captured and being help prisoner in the Mighty Nation of Wadiya)


Aladeen 4D - Rule the Lamp, Render the Dictatorship :-)

Since its product of mighty nation of Wadiya, it might find followers all around.
Dictator looks as funny as Ali G was (Borat and Bruno were not as good as, at least not to me)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership
Post by: persia on March 02, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
Gotta love Jewish guys making fun of Muslim stereotypes.....