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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: jorkany on February 08, 2012, 02:48:33 PM
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Now that some X1000 owners have had a few days to review the software bundled with their machines, I was wondering what X1000-specific software came with the package? That is, what software did you get with it or is available that cannot be run on say, a SAM?
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Now that some X1000 owners have had a few days to review the software bundled with their machines, I was wondering what X1000-specific software came with the package? That is, what software did you get with it or is available that cannot be run on say, a SAM?
Well, technically all OS 4.1 compatible software should run on all OS 4.1 compatible machines. That is the way it should be.
The only unique element of the X1000 is the XMOS chip - and so far nothing has been released on that front, but it is still *very* early days as the limited run of First Contact systems have just started to arrive in customer hands.
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Now that some X1000 owners have had a few days to review the software bundled with their machines, I was wondering what X1000-specific software came with the package? That is, what software did you get with it or is available that cannot be run on say, a SAM?
Who is going to bother? Seriously, there are a few hundred machines at best and the OS doesn't support SMP yet. I don't see any reason why coders would do anything until one or more those facts change for the better.
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Well, technically all OS 4.1 compatible software should run on all OS 4.1 compatible machines. That is the way it should be.
The only unique element of the X1000 is the XMOS chip - and so far nothing has been released on that front, but it is still *very* early days as the limited run of First Contact systems have just started to arrive in customer hands.
Wait a second. Are you telling me if someone actually developed a program or a game that requires the XMOS chip, this program or game will not work on any other AmigaOS 4.1 machine that is not X1000 hardware? Meaning, you must own the X1000 hardware to run this program??
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Who is going to bother? Seriously, there are a few hundred machines at best and the OS doesn't support SMP yet. I don't see any reason why coders would do anything until one or more those facts change for the better.
Don't be a Negative Nelly!
The X1000 ushers in a new beginning for the AmigaOS platform. The launch of the A1000 offered something new, and the X1000 will do the same. I realize that doesn't mean all X1000 software won't run on the SAM or Eyetech AmigaOne series, but being the top-end platform along with the unique onboard hardware means that there will be *some* software that doesn't. I was just wondering what software shipped with the X1000 distinguished it from a SAM or Eyetech A1.
After all, Hyperion must have been working on something over the past two years. Maybe the X1000 owners just haven't run across the Goody Folder on their X1000 OS CDs yet?
@AmigaClassicRule,
Wait a second. Are you telling me if someone actually developed a program or a game that requires the XMOS chip, this program or game will not work on any other AmigaOS 4.1 machine that is not X1000 hardware? Meaning, you must own the X1000 hardware to run this program??
Only for the short term! It's been announced that A-eon's next move is to produce a XMOS-on-a-PCI board that can be plugged into a SAM or AmigaOne system. You know, for when OS4 supports the integrated XMOS.
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OS4.x is not about XMOS. Maybe there will be some sort of .device or .library but I don`t think that they are focused on that. It`s all about sw and drivers. Maybe PCI-Express cards etc. That`s more interesting, modular and applicable to h/w & s/w about to come....
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I couldn't agree more. The focus needs to be on PCIE graphics drivers and adding dual core support right now. Anything else just has to wait.
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Maybe the X1000 owners just haven't run across the Goody Folder on their X1000 OS CDs yet?
According to this from Febrary 5, 2012, the CDs are not shipped yet for First Contact systems.
As regards the manufacturing of the OS 4.1 CD, I am away in the US for the next two weeks, so all being well and good, the CDs should be ready when I return.
source (http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=842&start=10)
So, no one would know the contents of such a folder yet, or whether such a folder even exists.
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Who is going to bother? Seriously, there are a few hundred machines at best and the OS doesn't support SMP yet. I don't see any reason why coders would do anything until one or more those facts change for the better.
I think it will all come down whether someone with know how finds a personal use and releases the software/schematics to the public. If you're doing something for you own benefit then you don't really care if no hardly anyone else uses it.
Someone has already written an X1000 MIDI driver for use with a homebuilt MIDI to RS232 circuit. http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/misc/camd_nemo.lha
Obviously that doesn't use XMOS but illustrates the point.
@Jorkany
I don't think the XMOS chip is as big a selling point for most customers as it is for you. Personally I don't care if it sits there doing nothing forever because it was never a consideration in my decision to purchase an X1000.
It's also worth remembering that First Contact systems are not quite meant to be the final product. Maybe you should save the faux concern for when the final product is released with OS4.2.