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Title: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on February 03, 2012, 08:03:47 AM
Hey guys,

I installed the USB SUB into my Amiga 1200 as instructed and it is safe, there is no fire, no explosion and no melting and damaging motherboard and USB SUB. The Amiga 1200 boots SWEETLY! I want to thank you guys for helping me get the installation done correctly.

However, there is another problem on my face and that is the USB does not work. Meaning, when I put a USB device the computer does not detect it and there is no activity happening. Can someone help me on this matter? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: nyteschayde on February 03, 2012, 08:06:24 AM
Have you installed the software? Poseidon needs to be installed but after that, I've found that you may need to run some additional commands:

Try this and see if it jump starts it. Open a shell and type

addusbhardware devs:usbhardware/subwayusb.device 0
addusbclasses

After a moment (if something is plugged in), or after you plug something in, you should see a bunch of annoying dialogs popup that indicate you've plugged in some USB devices. Things should work.

If this solves the issue for you, you can add those lines to the bottom of your S:User-Startup file.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: mfilos on February 03, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
There is no need to put any additional command AFAIK.
At least I never had to, in my years of experience with Subways and Denebs.

First of all... and since you don't state... is your Amiga having an accelerator with RAM?
Also make sure you install Poseidon correctly and after a reboot (to give User-Startup the chance to load PsdStackLoader) open Trident from SYS:Prefs and add subwayusb.device under Controller and hit Online.

If everything was done correctly you should have a green light next to the declaration.
Hit SAVE and you're set for good.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on February 03, 2012, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: mfilos;678918
There is no need to put any additional command AFAIK.
At least I never had to, in my years of experience with Subways and Denebs.

First of all... and since you don't state... is your Amiga having an accelerator with RAM?
Also make sure you install Poseidon correctly and after a reboot (to give User-Startup the chance to load PsdStackLoader) open Trident from SYS:Prefs and add subwayusb.device under Controller and hit Online.

If everything was done correctly you should have a green light next to the declaration.
Hit SAVE and you're set for good.

You are 100% correct. It works now!! 100%

* dances * I have four USBs in my Amiga 1200 now! I have four USBs in my Amiga 1200 now!! * sings loudly * I have four USBs in my Amiga 1200 now!! I have four USbs in my Amiga 1200 now!!

Do you guys think it is too much for the clockport of the Amiga 1200 to buy a USB ethernet card and hook my Amiga 1200 into high speed internet connection using the USB?
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: mfilos on February 03, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
Not it's not :)
It works just fine. Just be cautious on what adapter to buy. Not all USB adapters are compatible with Poseidon's classes.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on February 03, 2012, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: mfilos;678970
Not it's not :)
It works just fine. Just be cautious on what adapter to buy. Not all USB adapters are compatible with Poseidon's classes.

I have always had my eyes on this little guy for my Amiga 1200. I really believed this design suited my toy very well, how can I tell if it is compatible though? http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: bbond007 on February 03, 2012, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;679009
I have always had my eyes on this little guy for my Amiga 1200. I really believed this design suited my toy very well, how can I tell if it is compatible though? http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589


Possible AX88772 chipset.

AROS compatility says "TrendNet TU2-ET100 v2, untested ver2 but v3.0r (2007) uses newer AX88772 no support"
   
I was just digging through my junk and found a SMC 2202USB/ETH. That uses a RTL8150 chip which I think is a Pegasus II. I can test to see if it works if you would like to try and find one of those.

I bought it over 15 years ago. I never throw anything away...
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: Matt_H on February 03, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;679009
I have always had my eyes on this little guy for my Amiga 1200. I really believed this design suited my toy very well, how can I tell if it is compatible though? http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589


I can confirm that it is. There's one hooked up to my machine right now.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on February 03, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;679034
I can confirm that it is. There's one hooked up to my machine right now.

Really?

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!! But i heard that the PCMCIA is way faster for internet browsing and downloading than a USB Ethernet on an Amiga 1200.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: Akiko on February 03, 2012, 10:39:07 PM
A shame these cool little cards went out of stock at AmigaKit a few days ago.

I guess because of the Chris Hodges, Michael Böhmer feud, this is also the the end of Subway.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: bbond007 on February 03, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;679045
Really?

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!! But i heard that the PCMCIA is way faster for internet browsing and downloading than a USB Ethernet on an Amiga 1200.


it probably uses less CPU overhead anyway... Posidion uses like 15% CPU on my (060) system just running a mouse.

Subway (when connected to a 1200's clockport) is limited to 250K/sec max on mass storage devices, and probably has the same speed limitation as mass storage.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on February 03, 2012, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Akiko;679050
A shame these cool little cards went out of stock at AmigaKit a few days ago.

I guess because of the Chris Hodges, Michael Böhmer feud, this is also the the end of Subway.


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you telling me I HAVE JUST saved my skin on the nick of time when I bought the card???! Are you telling me now I have made a major investment on this card and this card now became a rare and expensive coin already??
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 31, 2012, 05:29:20 AM
Quote from: Matt_H;679034
I can confirm that it is. There's one hooked up to my machine right now.

You said you can confirm it! But when I ordered it and used it on my A1200 it says that there is no class that supports the device and it is not working. How did you manager to get it working? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: Methuselas on March 31, 2012, 05:30:42 AM
You should tell it to get a job!!!! ;)
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 31, 2012, 06:15:25 AM
Quote from: Methuselas;686197
You should tell it to get a job!!!! ;)

:huh:
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: fishy_fiz on March 31, 2012, 06:59:18 AM
Kinda spoils a joke when they need to be explained, but think about it.... get it working<->job  :)

Not really that funny, but I got a chuckle out of it still :)
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: Methuselas on March 31, 2012, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;686203
:huh:


Sorry, Mate. I was making a joke. You said your USB wasn't working, so I was telling you that you should make your USB go out and get employment.


I forget that sometimes there's a bit of a language barrier on the interwebz.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: Bamiga2002 on March 31, 2012, 07:50:04 AM
@AmigaClassicRule
Nice display of gratitude there for getting it working (referring to post #4 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=678966&postcount=4)) :), nice! This kind of joy is what the "amigaworld" needs :hammer:
I also have the Subway and even if "only" using 2 of the ports it's a very nice piece of HW with super Poseidon SW.
Remember that you need to turn USB off if you use WHDLoad, so it's nice to have "USB-off" & "USB-on" scripts/icons handy.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 31, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: Bamiga2002;686210
@AmigaClassicRule
Nice display of gratitude there for getting it working (referring to post #4 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=678966&postcount=4)) :), nice! This kind of joy is what the "amigaworld" needs :hammer:
I also have the Subway and even if "only" using 2 of the ports it's a very nice piece of HW with super Poseidon SW.
Remember that you need to turn USB off if you use WHDLoad, so it's nice to have "USB-off" & "USB-on" scripts/icons handy.

I am not sure if you are sincere or sarcastic. However, can someone still help me with the current problem I have, sincerely "Thanks in advance."
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: Bamiga2002 on March 31, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;686261
I am not sure if you are sincere or sarcastic. However, can someone still help me with the current problem I have, sincerely "Thanks in advance."
Dude, I was being downright sincere there :angel:
What's the problem you're having?
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: AmigaClassicRule on March 31, 2012, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Bamiga2002;686311
Dude, I was being downright sincere there
What's the problem you're having?


Thanks for being sincere :) The problem I am facing is this. I bought this USB ethernet adapter because I was informed by the majority of the Amiga communiy that this adapter is indeed compatible with Amiga and it works 100% correctly and lots of people have testified to that fact.

This is the adapter that I bought: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589

The problem after buying this adapter is when I hooked it to the Amiga, the USB says that there are no classes that support this yet, however the device is detected and it turns on.

When I select all the available devices in the MiamiDX from the device list it is not working the miamiDX and it cannot find my IP address and the LAN LED is not turning ON indicating there is any activity between the adapter and the modem that is hooked into it.

Can anyone help me get it working?

I do not mind if it is slow 50 KB or 100 KB/sec verses the PCMCIA ethernet, as I am only the internet to chat for wookiechat anyways and I do not need high speed 1 TB/sec for that.

Any help would be greatly appreciate it....thanks in advance.
Title: Re: My USB is not working...
Post by: bbond007 on March 31, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;686196
You said you can confirm it! But when I ordered it and used it on my A1200 it says that there is no class that supports the device and it is not working. How did you manager to get it working? Thanks in advance.


There was no way to confirm which exact chipset that particular adapter ships with, so how can anyone confirm that adapter is going to work? In fact, the documentation would suggest that a device newer than 2007 does not work...