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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: XDelusion on January 11, 2004, 03:35:41 AM
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What brands work, I wanna save doe, they are exspencive on Ebay. Amiga rip off artists! :/
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Who is a ripoff artist on eBay?
The only way to get an 100Mb ethernet on a A1200 is with a Mediator.
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You mean there is not a single PCMCIA 100 Mb card that is 1200 compatable?
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Nope, sorry. IIRC the slot type in the A1200 is far too old. It's only something silly like a Type-1 PCMIA.
You'd need a mediator for 100Mb. There are a few 10Mb clock port and such options though.
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No Wonder those prices are SO HIGH.
Hmm ok what 10Mb cheap cards work good with it?
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I bought an Amiga 1200 with a PCMCIA Kingmax KEN0012-TF 10MBit adapter.
I didn't try it yet but the former owner said the card was ok.
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XDelusion wrote:
Hmm ok what 10Mb cheap cards work good with it?
See the lists of compatible 10Mbit PCMCIA cards/models inside these archives:
cnet.device (http://www.aminet.net/hard/drivr/cnetdevice.lha) is for most NE2000 compatible cards, but not 3com ones.
And 3c589.device (http://www.aminet.net/hard/drivr/3c589.lha) is only for 3com cards.
I have 3com Etherlink III (3C589D-TP) on my 1200 and it works great :-)
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hi XDelusion
"cheap" and "Amiga" are 2 incompatible words IMHO
Never seen in my life, a good and cheap item for Amiga . . . maybe the screws :-)
Ciao
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In the past i tried some pcmcia 10mbit card for my 1200.... but i had some problems. Anyway now i have a mediator with pci ethernet card for my fast internet connection :-D
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If you use PCMCIA cards (the only type available for A1200 without a mediator), then it doesn't matter if you get 10mbit or 100mbit. The PCMCIA port is too slow to take full advantage of either anyway.
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XDelusion:
Please please do not listen to some of these people. I myself use a PCMCIA ethernet card with cnet.device and it works excellent and fast....and they are cheap to and very available. If it seems slow...it only because your Amiga is slow, so the webpages will come up slower than usual because maybe your running a 68030 like me. but if you have an 040 or 060 it should be faster.
My card is a PCMCIA 10Mbps, it also says its a 16bit card with 5v power.
Chatting on IRC and AOL Instant Messenger (AmigAIM) runs beautifully. and downloading from Aminet is quick and simple. Don't expect to surf webpages as fast as a PC though, because in this respect Amigas are slower and have sucky web Browsers.
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Hi
Even if you had a mediator with a 100mpbs card it would make no sense because no classic amiga is fast enough to handle these high transfer rates. It would make no improvement over a 10mbps card imho.
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cybereye wrote:
Nope, sorry. IIRC the slot type in the A1200 is far too old. It's only something silly like a Type-1 PCMIA.
You'd need a mediator for 100Mb. There are a few 10Mb clock port and such options though.
The type-1:ness of the slot doesn't matter here.. (besides, you can fit a type-II card in it just fine) The PCMCIA slot types just define how thick the card can be, they are electrically compatible.
Yes, there are 100Mbit cards for PCMCIA.
Perhaps it's possible to get a 100Mbit NE2000 compatible card that works with cnet.device.. Some "neverheard" brands are NE2000 compatible...
But like people here said, it's impossible to get 100Mbit performance through PCMCIA, let alone using an A1200's PCMCIA slot.
(CardBus cards can do proper 100M, but these will absolutely not work in an A1200 - you might fry the card if you try)
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@rayt:
The amiga is fast enough given a descent processor. But the current quite inefficient TCP/IP-stacks for the Amiga coupled with inefficient ways of transferring the data from the NIC buffers results in a maximum of of not much more than 10Mbit/sec.
@leirbag28:
Recently being able to try Ibrowse on a 68060-based Amiga with graphics-card I must say that I was surprised - it was very fast, definately felt as fast as a bit older PC. Though I have done lots of surfing on a 68060-based Amiga without graphics-card and that does not feel fast.
(edit): The PCMCIA-bus is specified to be able to achieve about a 2 MByte/Sec transferrate when using 16-bit transfers.
/Patrik
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I am not using the 1200 for high speed internet, I just to network it for file transfer, and considering the Amiga has SMALL files, a 10 Mb card will do fine.
I'll do High Speed internet on a new Amiga when I can afford one.
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I just bought a 100Mbit card from Elbox and what's more it is cheaper than the 10Mbit version. Argue that!
Cheers,
JaX
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I had once a D-Link DFE 670 TXD, a 10/100Mbit card..
I had some problems with it - my miggy wouldn't start when it was plugged in the PCMCIA during cold boot, but when you inserted the card after first boot, it was working on 100M mode - transfers wasn't very great, I got only an Elbox 1230/40MHz MKII then..
There was some problems with NSD in OS3.9 (had to edit NSDpatch.cfg - card wasn't working with it)..
:-)
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There ARE 10/100Mbps PCMCIA cards that work with cnet.device. I just don't remember the name/model of the cards, but I know that some people are using them on their a1200 :)
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Ok, I got my card, now what do I do? I'm an OS 3.1 user.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6772917609&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
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Download the 3Com-driver from Aminet. The cnet-driver will not work with a 3Com card.
You also have to find a suitable tcp/ip stack, otherwise there's nothing you can do with the card. OS 3.9 comes with such a stack (Genesis), but OS 3.1 doesn't have it as standard. I seem to remember there's a demoversion of AmiTCP on Aminet, but I'm not sure of that.
My 1200 with 68060/50 works very nice with OS 3.9 and a 3Com589. Surfing the web sucks (no RTG, just AGA), but other stuff like FTP, e-mail, chatting and usenet do work like a charm.
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you are absolutely right, Framiga
BTW, "screws" and "amiga seller" are compatibile words :-o
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Hi,
I've got a 3Com EtherLink III 10BaseT card here if anyone wants one - it's model 3C589D-TP. Send me PMail if you're interested. $10 and shipping??? If you want me to screw you that'll be an extra $5. (+tax) 8-)
-G
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Your not supposed to tell them about the screwing yet, that's not the Ebay way.
Tell them the card is $2.00 for anyone who wants it, then once they agree to buy, charge them $40 for shipping...
...come to think of it, that's the Gateway way as well. :)
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I have an Edimax from Software Hut. It works fine but the settings were a pain to figure out. It took me weeks to configure Genesis correctly, but it was eventually worth it. Neither Genesis nor Miami would auto-configure. Instructions are unclear on manual configuration for both Genesis and my Netgear router.
You will need a router and PC to make it work. At least that's what my Amiga tech and folks on this forum have said and I vouch for it working.
If you need help with configuration, this forum is invaluable. I'll be glad to share mine with you.
I use an 060/50 and it downloads at up to 40,000 cps, tho 20-30,000 is more common. I guess it depends upon traffic. Without the ethernet card, downloading took forever, but I downloaded a 172 Mb file a few days ago that I'd never have attempted before.
Without a pcmcia conversion you will need to plug the ethernet card in after booting, but it's no real problem.
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nope, router is not necessary, you can use cheap switch if your ISP gives you several IP addresses (or you use it just for LAN). And, even if they don't you could start socks proxy on one that has been given IP from ISP (running 24/7).
I have used A1200 with 10Mbit pcmcia and 8port switch and got about 200kbyte/s when using smbfs for transferring files to PC. (IIRC its a little bit faster in opposite direction).
Just be sure to TURN OFF firewall in Miami, cause it will slow down drastically everything.
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@KennyR
The theoretical max of the miggies PCMCIA-port is something like five megs/sec. so a 100-mbit card could be utilized to 40% assuming that the you have a heavily OC'd CPU, and that the data transferred doesn't require any CPU to be handled! :-D
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http://www.g-mb.de/pcmcia_e.html - great page.
I just bought edimax4000A (10mbit) for $5 and it works great. tomorrow i tested another cheap 10/100/1000 from my friend, its recognized but not working.