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Title: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on January 17, 2012, 06:36:42 PM
Hi!

I am selling my Apple Powerbook G4 (top model).

1.67 GHz G4 Mac (fast RAM interface)
high resolution 15.2" display with 1440 x 900

american/canadian PSU
american/canadian keyboard layout
(the two points above are the cause, why I want to sell the system, I have managed to get one with a german PSU/layout)

This is the top-model for the upcoming MorphOS 3.0

Buy it now and here for EUR 250,- plus shipping or wait until MOS 3.0 is released and the prices explode

I am open for a swap for other amiga items.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Dragster on January 17, 2012, 07:53:36 PM
The top model is the 5.9 (1139)... capable of resolutions of 1680x1050... i think this is one below the top model. Just a small clarification... good luck with the sale.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on January 18, 2012, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Dragster;676332
The top model is the 5.9 (1139)... capable of resolutions of 1680x1050... i think this is one below the top model. Just a small clarification... good luck with the sale.


You are correct (pricewise), but they are both the fastest model (fastest CPU with highest memory bandwith). The 17" model is not in my mind as 17"-devices are not my idea of mobility. I would prefer the 15,2"-powerbooks over the 17"-ones so the huge one was not on my mind.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Boot_WB on January 18, 2012, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: AllocVec;676432
You are correct (pricewise), but they are both the fastest model (fastest CPU with highest memory bandwith).

Really? (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8264&forum=11#89018)
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: takemehomegrandma on January 18, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dragster;676332
The top model is the 5.9 (1139)... capable of resolutions of 1680x1050... i think this is one below the top model. Just a small clarification... good luck with the sale.


PowerBook 5,8 and 5,9 is the same *generation* though, both released in October 2005, and they are pretty much the same computer. The main difference is the 15" screen (1440x960) of the 5,8 and the 17" screen (1680x1050) of the 5,9. Otherwise they are pretty much the same, for example they both have 1.67GHz G4 (was there a 1.5 version of the 15" as well?), ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 (4X AGP) graphics with 128 MB of VMEM, "Dual Layer SuperDrive", etc. So it's mostly down to what size of the computer you prefer.

The generation before this, the PowerBook 5,6 and 5,7, was released in January 2005. The 5,6 is the 15" (1280x854) and the 5,7 is the 17" (1440x900). But in this generation there is a *difference* in VMEM, the 15" model only having 64 MB while the 17" having 128 MB. There was also a lower end version of the PowerBook 5,6 / 15" model, having a 1.5 GHz G4 instead of 1.67 GHz, and a "Combo Drive" instead of "Super Drive".

These are the models (5,6 - 5,9) that will be supported by MorphOS 3.0 AFAIK. I'm thinking of a 5,8 myself, having just seen a local ad where it will be sold for about €150. Very tempting! :)
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on January 20, 2012, 10:44:04 AM
Quote from: Boot_WB;676446
Really? (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8264&forum=11#89018)


I had no MOS 3.0 here to test it, maybe you could give it to me ;)
Normally higher memory-bandwith should result in better performance.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Boot_WB on January 20, 2012, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: AllocVec;676678
I had no MOS 3.0 here to test it, maybe you could give it to me ;)
Normally higher memory-bandwith should result in better performance.


Alas, neither do I :-( The tests were run under OSX (Leopard).

It's an interesting result, most likely due to the higher latency of DDR2 compared to DDR memory (The ~20% difference would be about right for this). Whilst DDR2 memory may be capable of four operations per memory clock, the G4 cpu isn't (in fact it doesn't use DDR at two operations per clock either).

Regardless, the lower power consumption of DDR2 should result in a greater battery life (big plus :-) ).

As with the move from SDRam to DDR on G4 systems, the rest of the system can probably benefit from using DDR2 data rates (4 ops per clock) over the system bus, although any operations via the processor FSB will be limited to using only 25% of this speed (ie single data rate).
In real-life operations DDR2 may well provide higher performance compared to DDR when f.ex DMA-ing between memory and other non-cpu peripherals, eg graphics card.

/Sorry for the extended OT :-)
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on January 25, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
No one? Not even a swap for other amiga items?!
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on March 11, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Push.

MOS 3.0 is coming... ;)
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Iggy on March 11, 2012, 09:44:37 PM
Quote from: AllocVec;683297
Push.

MOS 3.0 is coming... ;)


In the US and looking for a 15 inch model (with 128MB of VRAM).
Your price is fair for Europe.

I'm surprised no one has pick it up yet.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on March 11, 2012, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: Iggy;683303
In the US and looking for a 15 inch model (with 128MB of VRAM).
Your price is fair for Europe.

I'm surprised no one has pick it up yet.


Shipping to the USA is not that expensive (but the dollar is still somewhat weak to the Euro at the moment I assume).
If some one in Europe is interested I may change the keyboard and PSU if needed.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Iggy on March 12, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
Quote from: AllocVec;683304
Shipping to the USA is not that expensive (but the dollar is still somewhat weak to the Euro at the moment I assume).
If some one in Europe is interested I may change the keyboard and PSU if needed.


True, international shipping is surpringly affordable.
And were it not for the larger size, I'd be on it.
Personally, I'd even prefer a smaller then 15 inch unit, but those don't come with ATI graphics (needed for MorphOS).
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: smerf on March 12, 2012, 01:40:52 AM
Quote from: AllocVec;676327
Hi!

I am selling my Apple Powerbook G4 (top model).

1.67 GHz G4 Mac (fast RAM interface)
high resolution 15.2" display with 1440 x 900

american/canadian PSU
american/canadian keyboard layout
(the two points above are the cause, why I want to sell the system, I have managed to get one with a german PSU/layout)

This is the top-model for the upcoming MorphOS 3.0

Buy it now and here for EUR 250,- plus shipping or wait until MOS 3.0 is released and the prices explode

I am open for a swap for other amiga items.


Hi,

For the Apple G4 powerbook, I will let you pay me $10 and pay shipping charges to Pennsyltucky to let you get rid of it.

smerf
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on March 12, 2012, 07:20:26 AM
Quote from: Iggy;683323
True, international shipping is surpringly affordable.
And were it not for the larger size, I'd be on it.
Personally, I'd even prefer a smaller then 15 inch unit, but those don't come with ATI graphics (needed for MorphOS).


I do not understand your statement. You search for a 15" model and what I offer is the 15" model. AFAIK MOS will not run on a 12" Powerbook.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on March 12, 2012, 07:20:58 AM
Quote from: smerf;683337
Hi,

For the Apple G4 powerbook, I will let you pay me $10 and pay shipping charges to Pennsyltucky to let you get rid of it.

smerf


A tempting offer ;)
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on March 19, 2012, 10:44:14 AM
push
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: 8bitbubsy on April 01, 2012, 09:56:30 PM
Are you interested in a fully working Blizzard 2060, a Picasso II 2MB RTG and a PAL MiniMegi 2MB all together in one package? This will make an Amiga 2000 a fire-breathing beast!
The accelerator has an MC68060RC50 late mask from around 2002 that runs at 50MHz even without a heatsink. I've tried to run the board at 66MHz with only a heatsink, and it was fully stable. I soldered the 50MHz clock back in though, no socket!
It has the CPU soldered on the board for max stability, and it doesn't collide with the HDD/CD-ROM metal frame because of this. Oh, the board was upgrades from a 2040/68040 state, but it works like a dream with the 060 and the voltage regulator parts. I've ran it for hours and hours, and it reports 68060 with FPU and MMU, it's all good.

The Picasso II works great, but it has one capacitor trace damage that I repaired.

Let me know if you want to trade, the accelerator itself is worth more than 250€, especially since it has the late mask 060 that it worth around €60-70 alone.

This is actually a very good trade on your side, such Amiga hardware is expensive.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: SysAdmin on April 01, 2012, 10:18:14 PM
Still available?
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: 8bitbubsy on April 01, 2012, 10:21:43 PM
Hey!! :P
At least I'm first if he wants to trade.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: 8bitbubsy on April 01, 2012, 10:22:38 PM
Hey!!
I'm first if he wants to trade, mister.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Iggy on April 01, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: AllocVec;676327
Hi!

Buy it now and here for EUR 250,- plus shipping or wait until MOS 3.0 is released and the prices explode


I don't think a few MorphOS sales are going to significantly affect the price of something this common.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: smerf on April 02, 2012, 04:03:37 AM
Quote from: Iggy;686439
I don't think a few MorphOS sales are going to significantly affect the price of something this common.


Hi,

Truer words where never spoken.

smerf
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2012, 05:34:26 AM
Quote from: 8bitbubsy;686437
Hey!!
I'm first if he wants to trade, mister.


LOL! Cock-block!

:roflmao:
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: 8bitbubsy on April 02, 2012, 06:10:50 AM
Quote from: Methuselas;686492
LOL! Cock-block!

:roflmao:

:cool:
Even nerds can kick admin butt.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on April 14, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
@8bitbubsy
I replied via mail.

@all
the PB is still available but 8bitbubsy comes first.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: arnljot on April 14, 2012, 11:31:46 PM
Seems like I'd be 3rd or 4th perhaps. I'm interested if we can talk price.

For clarification, what version OSX does it come with (for dual boot purposes).
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: Iggy on April 14, 2012, 11:37:05 PM
Quote from: arnljot;688488
Seems like I'd be 3rd or 4th perhaps. I'm interested if we can talk price.

For clarification, what version OSX does it come with (for dual boot purposes).

The price actually isn't bad for Germany.
I consider it, but I'm investing more in my FW800 right now and I've just arranged to buy a 2.5 GHz G5 from Amigadave.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: arnljot on April 14, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
The price is fine for the right buyer. And I'm sure it's very good for Germany.

For Norway it's not good (tax on 250 EUR + the shipping, it's 25%) and I've gotta live with US keyboard and PSU.

In Norway the Mac addicts seems "worse" than elsewhere on (brukt1.no) a site that used to have second hand mac equipment ppl sold off their old macs for very high prices. Seems that everyone has a "unique mac" that warrants that "premium price tag".

That's what makes me consider a German US import mac :P
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on April 15, 2012, 11:52:40 AM
@arnljot
PM sent
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: 8bitbubsy on April 15, 2012, 01:12:54 PM
Interest/swap withdrawn, so the Mac goes to the next one in line.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on April 15, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: 8bitbubsy;688598
Interest/swap withdrawn, so the Mac goes to the next one in line.


Thanks for the short info. According PMs are on the way.
Title: Re: FS: Powerbook G4, 1.67 GHz, High Resolution
Post by: AllocVec on April 17, 2012, 05:43:16 PM
The PB is sold. Many thanks to all here.