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Title: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 04, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
Just a few more pics.  A2000 030@50mhz. Toaster card installed.

Enjoy.
Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Darrin on January 04, 2012, 10:02:29 PM
Mechy sells a nice SCSI card reader (CF, SD, Momory Stick, PCMCIA) that would look perfect in that free floppy slot.  ;)
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 04, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
Quote from: Darrin;674368
Mechy sells a nice SCSI card reader (CF, SD, Momory Stick, PCMCIA) that would look perfect in that free floppy slot.  ;)



I agree that would look nice. :)..
mmm.. I should have broke out the humpback mouse..ha
Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Xanxi on January 04, 2012, 10:35:51 PM
I think it won't look good, because of the unusual size of the A2000 3,5' bay. On mine, the two bays are filled with classic Chinon drives (one FB-357 DD and one FB-357A HD), because anything else will leave an empty space in the bay. I can't support that.
Instead, i use a special 5,25' bay that offers house for a slim DVD (or in my case a slim bay for an internal 2,5' hard drive), one 3,5' bay (in my case a floppy drive combo with memory card slots and one USB port), and 2 more front USB ports.
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: save2600 on January 04, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Darrin;674368
Mechy sells a nice SCSI card reader (CF, SD, Momory Stick, PCMCIA) that would look perfect in that free floppy slot.  ;)


Surprised he doesn't keep his site linked to his sig. Here it is anyway:

http://a4000t.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_79&products_id=180

...so, is there a bezel or other solution that would make this more attractive an an A2000 case?
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Xanxi on January 04, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
Quote from: save2600;674377
Surprised he doesn't keep his site linked to his sig. Here it is anyway:

http://a4000t.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_79&products_id=180

...so, is there a bezel or other solution that would make this more attractive an an A2000 case?


In the 5.25' bay with an adapter.
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: save2600 on January 04, 2012, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Xanxi;674378
In the 5.25' bay with an adapter.

Actually, that sounds great - so long as the adapter was the same color, etc. I could care less about CD-ROM capability on my Amigas *IF* the SCSI CF/SD card reader actually works as advertised. Especially on a 68000/3.1/2091 system. Experience working with SCSI and my spidey-senses tell me it's too good to be true. I'm not even asking for removable on the fly USB-type support, but if you could use a CF or SD card as a vehicle to get information to and fro without a bunch of strange read/write errors all the time, well, guess I'd be surprised. And impressed. And would have to purchase...  lol
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: mechy on January 05, 2012, 12:00:37 AM
About the only solution i can think of to replace tall drives is to glue some small plastic strips to the pcd-50b bezel to make up for the space.. not ideal but it works and looks ok when done right.

Nice looking 2000 there vlabguy!

Mech

Quote from: save2600;674377
Surprised he doesn't keep his site linked to his sig. Here it is anyway:

http://a4000t.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_79&products_id=180

...so, is there a bezel or other solution that would make this more attractive an an A2000 case?
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 05, 2012, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: mechy;674391
About the only solution i can think of to replace tall drives is to glue some small plastic strips to the pcd-50b bezel to make up for the space.. not ideal but it works and looks ok when done right.

Nice looking 2000 there vlabguy!

Mech


Thanks Mech... The keyboard is brand new, which is nice.

Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: touringsedan on January 06, 2012, 02:25:51 PM
I have one and it works great in my A2000. Mine doesn't boot from CF and he sells one with a PCMCIA adapter that does boot CF attached to them. I assume its because the CF is a removable disk and not seen as an HD, but once installed in the PCMCIA adapter it is.
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 06, 2012, 03:09:18 PM
The machine works great other than the floppy.. she spins but does not access a disk.  So I took the machine apart to take the floppy drive out to replace it and noticed it was quite dusty in there, perhaps a good cleaning??  Or is this typical of older floppy drives?  In order to get the floppy drive out I had to take the accelerator card out.. (see attached pic).. I could not find any markings on this card..anyone recognize it?

Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: amiman99 on January 06, 2012, 04:33:12 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;674621
The machine works great other than the floppy.. she spins but does not access a disk.  So I took the machine apart to take the floppy drive out to replace it and noticed it was quite dusty in there, perhaps a good cleaning??  Or is this typical of older floppy drives?  In order to get the floppy drive out I had to take the accelerator card out.. (see attached pic).. I could not find any markings on this card..anyone recognize it?

Rich
ny
Apollo 2030 Turbo
Remove the second simm and model is under it.

Title: Re: A2000
Post by: mechy on January 06, 2012, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: touringsedan;674615
I have one and it works great in my A2000. Mine doesn't boot from CF and he sells one with a PCMCIA adapter that does boot CF attached to them. I assume its because the CF is a removable disk and not seen as an HD, but once installed in the PCMCIA adapter it is.

They have the capability to boot off any slot, you just have to enable LUNS to use it. Happy to walk you through setup if you like. its quite easy.

Mech
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: mechy on January 06, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: save2600;674380
Actually, that sounds great - so long as the adapter was the same color, etc. I could care less about CD-ROM capability on my Amigas *IF* the SCSI CF/SD card reader actually works as advertised. Especially on a 68000/3.1/2091 system. Experience working with SCSI and my spidey-senses tell me it's too good to be true. I'm not even asking for removable on the fly USB-type support, but if you could use a CF or SD card as a vehicle to get information to and fro without a bunch of strange read/write errors all the time, well, guess I'd be surprised. And impressed. And would have to purchase...  lol

I can't quite figure the AMIGA community out at times. I announced these card readers a good while back.Many of you have bought them and are using them now. It seems most make assumptions instead of reading the info or simply asking(save2600 did ask btw). Most seem afraid to email me for help and i am always just a email away either here or the store. I was slow getting info out,but for those who emailed me,we had their reader up and working on their amiga in 10 mins in most cases.SCSi isn't black magic,and these card readers are not voodoo,they do work. The biggest problem i see if people don't educate them on the basics of how scsi work,its very simple in most cases and a little knowledge goes along way.Some other cases they are using old badly implimented scsi controllers or old roms. This is not the fault of scsi,blame the maker of the card. What is worse i guess is the forums are filled with scsi MIS-Information. This gets repeated over the years.
Just so everyone knows, when you buy a card reader from me,i do stand behind it,and i will give person one on one help if you need it.

Sorry to hijack your thread!

Mech
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 06, 2012, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: amiman99;674629
Apollo 2030 Turbo
Remove the second simm and model is under it.



Cool.. thanks..

Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 06, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
Quote from: mechy;674636
I can't quite figure the AMIGA community out at times. I announced these card readers a good while back.Many of you have bought them and are using them now. It seems most make assumptions instead of reading the info or simply asking(save2600 did ask btw). Most seem afraid to email me for help and i am always just a email away either here or the store. I was slow getting info out,but for those who emailed me,we had their reader up and working on their amiga in 10 mins in most cases.SCSi isn't black magic,and these card readers are not voodoo,they do work. The biggest problem i see if people don't educate them on the basics of how scsi work,its very simple in most cases and a little knowledge goes along way.Some other cases they are using old badly implimented scsi controllers or old roms. This is not the fault of scsi,blame the maker of the card. What is worse i guess is the forums are filled with scsi MIS-Information. This gets repeated over the years.
Just so everyone knows, when you buy a card reader from me,i do stand behind it,and i will give person one on one help if you need it.

Sorry to hijack your thread!

Mech


Dang.. Hijacker.. ha.. no worries it is all good.  

Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Darrin on January 06, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
Quote from: mechy;674636
I can't quite figure the AMIGA community out at times. I announced these card readers a good while back.Many of you have bought them and are using them now. It seems most make assumptions instead of reading the info or simply asking(save2600 did ask btw). Most seem afraid to email me for help and i am always just a email away either here or the store. I was slow getting info out,but for those who emailed me,we had their reader up and working on their amiga in 10 mins in most cases.SCSi isn't black magic,and these card readers are not voodoo,they do work. The biggest problem i see if people don't educate them on the basics of how scsi work,its very simple in most cases and a little knowledge goes along way.Some other cases they are using old badly implimented scsi controllers or old roms. This is not the fault of scsi,blame the maker of the card. What is worse i guess is the forums are filled with scsi MIS-Information. This gets repeated over the years.
Just so everyone knows, when you buy a card reader from me,i do stand behind it,and i will give person one on one help if you need it.

Sorry to hijack your thread!

Mech


I'll vouch for what Mechy said.  He even sent me an email when he hadn't heard from me to check that the product was working OK!

You can trust this guy 1000%.  He stands behind everything he sells.
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: save2600 on January 06, 2012, 06:38:10 PM
Mechy wrote a reply recently that was rather thorough and I have 100% confidence in his products and ability to sqaure things away if/when there are problems. I don't believe SCSI to be "black magic", but I have run across my fair share of completely idiotic and unexplainable behaviors dealing with SCSI all these years.  

Latest one has to do with a Plextor CD writer where the 2091 card stubbornly refuses to boot the HD quickly as it would if there were a non-writer installed. With a CD in the drive, the 2091 card *does* allow for a quicker boot, but is still not as fast to get off its ass upon a reset/cold boot. And yes, all settings and config scenarios have been covered. *This* is the sole reason I'm even considering one of his SCSI<>card readers, BUT... I've got another question about his reader, which I'll do in a PM.   :)
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Darrin on January 06, 2012, 08:54:08 PM
Quote from: save2600;674649
Mechy wrote a reply recently that was rather thorough and I have 100% confidence in his products and ability to sqaure things away if/when there are problems. I don't believe SCSI to be "black magic", but I have run across my fair share of completely idiotic and unexplainable behaviors dealing with SCSI all these years.  

Latest one has to do with a Plextor CD writer where the 2091 card stubbornly refuses to boot the HD quickly as it would if there were a non-writer installed. With a CD in the drive, the 2091 card *does* allow for a quicker boot, but is still not as fast to get off its ass upon a reset/cold boot. And yes, all settings and config scenarios have been covered. *This* is the sole reason I'm even considering one of his SCSI<>card readers, BUT... I've got another question about his reader, which I'll do in a PM.   :)


Don't worry, you're not alone.  There's a reason why I have IDE cards in my big box Amigas.  :D
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 06, 2012, 09:44:47 PM
SO what up with my A2000 floppy drive.. HELLO. hijacked thread..hehe.  I could do away with the internal floppy put in a blank go with a SD card reader in the back + an external Floppy. :).

Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Darrin on January 06, 2012, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;674671
SO what up with my A2000 floppy drive.. HELLO. hijacked thread..hehe.  I could do away with the internal floppy put in a blank go with a SD card reader in the back + an external Floppy. :).

Rich
ny


Probably just old age.  Try cleaning it otherwise look for a replacement on eBay.
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: save2600 on January 06, 2012, 11:03:14 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;674671
SO what up with my A2000 floppy drive.. HELLO.

What's wrong with your floppy?  :laughing:

I have a few collecting dust over here if you'd like a replacement. BUT... have you tried douching yours out real well first? Mixture of Summers Eve and contact cleaner usually sets 'em right.    :lol:   j/k

Okay, taking a cotton swap or tooth brush and cleaning out the grime is the first thing I'd do. Sometimes if they're real bad, I'll have a vacuum at the ready to suck all that crap up. Cans of air will just blow all the dust around and ends up in your eyes and everywhere else.

Next, see the two little black switches near the front left? Spray some contact cleaner into them and actuate manually a few times. Next, you can try cleaning the heads with a Q-Tip and some rubbing alcohol.

Someone here also wrote up a nice "how to" when it comes to removing the old grease from the rails that the head moves up and down on and then reapplies lithium, so that might be in order to.

Failing all that - hit me up for a working drive if you want! Mine are missing the front plastic bezel, so you'd have to make sure you keep yours...
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 07, 2012, 12:45:15 AM
Quote from: save2600;674685
What's wrong with your floppy?  :laughing:

I have a few collecting dust over here if you'd like a replacement. BUT... have you tried douching yours out real well first? Mixture of Summers Eve and contact cleaner usually sets 'em right.    :lol:   j/k

Okay, taking a cotton swap or tooth brush and cleaning out the grime is the first thing I'd do. Sometimes if they're real bad, I'll have a vacuum at the ready to suck all that crap up. Cans of air will just blow all the dust around and ends up in your eyes and everywhere else.

Next, see the two little black switches near the front left? Spray some contact cleaner into them and actuate manually a few times. Next, you can try cleaning the heads with a Q-Tip and some rubbing alcohol.

Someone here also wrote up a nice "how to" when it comes to removing the old grease from the rails that the head moves up and down on and then reapplies lithium, so that might be in order to.

Failing all that - hit me up for a working drive if you want! Mine are missing the front plastic bezel, so you'd have to make sure you keep yours...


Thank you.. :).. yeah mine um had a few dust bunnies.. I will post a pic in a few.  She looks pretty clean now.. I hope this does the trick. I will find out tomorrow when I reinstall it into the 2000.  I will keep this situation updated.

Thanks again
Rich
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 07, 2012, 12:52:46 AM
Quote from: amiman99;674629
Apollo 2030 Turbo
Remove the second simm and model is under it.




Holy moly you are correct :).. but I see no Apollo lol.

Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 07, 2012, 01:40:14 AM
Quote from: Darrin;674675
Probably just old age.  Try cleaning it otherwise look for a replacement on eBay.



yeah kinda like me..haha.. here is my dusty old floppy.. :).

Rich
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: save2600 on January 07, 2012, 01:54:21 AM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;674705
yeah kinda like me..haha.. here is my dusty old floppy.. :).

Rich

I have *NEVER* seen a drive look that bad. Umm... yeah, get some Summers Eve or Massengill on that puppy but quick!  :lol:
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 07, 2012, 02:37:58 AM
Quote from: save2600;674708
I have *NEVER* seen a drive look that bad. Umm... yeah, get some Summers Eve or Massengill on that puppy but quick!  :lol:



Pretty bad huh?
yup it is cleaned so I hope it still works.

Rich
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Darrin on January 07, 2012, 02:40:05 AM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;674705
yeah kinda like me..haha.. here is my dusty old floppy.. :).

Rich


Holy crap!  A fur-lined floppy!

OK, there's only one way to clean this.  Take a small fluffy kitten, comb it vigorously with a nylon brush until balloons are drawn to it and then rub the kitten gently over the drive until the kitten is dustier than the drive.

Works like a charm.  :D
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 07, 2012, 03:22:13 AM
Quote from: Darrin;674712
Holy crap!  A fur-lined floppy!

OK, there's only one way to clean this.  Take a small fluffy kitten, comb it vigorously with a nylon brush until balloons are drawn to it and then rub the kitten gently over the drive until the kitten is dustier than the drive.

Works like a charm.  :D


Nice..I'm sure my kitty will enjoy that..ha..
So this is a lesson for those who have not looked in to their older floppy drives..

Rich
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: gertsy on January 07, 2012, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: Darrin;674712
Holy crap!  A fur-lined floppy!

OK, there's only one way to clean this.  Take a small fluffy kitten, comb it vigorously with a nylon brush until balloons are drawn to it and then rub the kitten gently over the drive until the kitten is dustier than the drive.

Works like a charm.  :D


That'll just make your Kitty mean..!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qit3ALTelOo
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: mechy on January 07, 2012, 07:41:56 PM
Guilty! sorry about that!

Many times the grease hardens on the floppy stepper worm gears. you can take a toothpick and remove all the old grease and add a tiny amount(TINY!) of new lithium grease.

Cleanthe heads with isopropyl alcohol and blow the drive out well with air,cleaning the disk switches helps with contact cleaner too.

i have saved tons of so called "junk" drives that way.

Mech



Quote from: Vlabguy1;674671
SO what up with my A2000 floppy drive.. HELLO. hijacked thread..hehe.  I could do away with the internal floppy put in a blank go with a SD card reader in the back + an external Floppy. :).

Rich
ny
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: mechy on January 07, 2012, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;674705
yeah kinda like me..haha.. here is my dusty old floppy.. :).

Rich

AND i thought this place was dusty.. thats a bad one.. seen a few almost that bad in my time.

mech
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: mechy on January 07, 2012, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: save2600;674649
Mechy wrote a reply recently that was rather thorough and I have 100% confidence in his products and ability to sqaure things away if/when there are problems. I don't believe SCSI to be "black magic", but I have run across my fair share of completely idiotic and unexplainable behaviors dealing with SCSI all these years.  

Latest one has to do with a Plextor CD writer where the 2091 card stubbornly refuses to boot the HD quickly as it would if there were a non-writer installed. With a CD in the drive, the 2091 card *does* allow for a quicker boot, but is still not as fast to get off its ass upon a reset/cold boot. And yes, all settings and config scenarios have been covered. *This* is the sole reason I'm even considering one of his SCSI<>card readers, BUT... I've got another question about his reader, which I'll do in a PM.   :)

The best and only way to get great scsi is to have it on the accelerator, its usually night and day speed wise. All these old cards like the 2091 do work,but are zorro2 and slow. Adding at least 512K ram or more to the 2091 makes it quicker also,since it can DMA to it.Updating the 2091 WD scsi chip helps when you are using more than one drive and impliments the full scsi II command set properly-Problems can creed up with more than 1 drive with the old WD-04 chips(proto makes no diff). There were many buggy amiga scsi cards out there and some accelerators with bad scsi(apollo cough!)

the zorro3 A4091(rev 7 roms) and fastlane z3 have good scsi though.

Most problems can be easily explained.

Mech
Title: Re: A2000
Post by: Vlabguy1 on January 08, 2012, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: mechy;674791
Guilty! sorry about that!

Many times the grease hardens on the floppy stepper worm gears. you can take a toothpick and remove all the old grease and add a tiny amount(TINY!) of new lithium grease.

Cleanthe heads with isopropyl alcohol and blow the drive out well with air,cleaning the disk switches helps with contact cleaner too.

i have saved tons of so called "junk" drives that way.

Mech



Thanks Mech,

Well cleaned out the dust... tried it out but no dice.  I didn't get in to it further as I have floppy drive from a 4000, which I cleaned at the same time I did the 2000 floppy, and she works just fine.  I will have to swap eject buttons as to color match the bezel and case :).

The problematic 2000 floppy drive .. I never heard that "snick/click" sound when the drive is inserted.  
Oh dang.. I wanted to take a pic of the Splitfire board that is in das 2000...
Rich
ny