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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: AmiDelf on December 23, 2011, 08:14:37 AM
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Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce the immediate availability for download of Update 4 by registered users of AmigaOS 4.1 for all supported platforms.
Hyperion continues its tradition to provide regular free updates of AmigaOS 4.1 and with the festive season just days away, this is a particularly appropriate time for a free update.
Update 4 requires AmigaOS 4.1 Update 3 prior to installation.
The following new functionality and bug fixes are included in Update 4:
Introducing the new Emulation drawer with official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs and Workbench files. AmigaOS ROMs are provided for all classic Amiga models and the CD32 platform.
Added RunInUAE contribution to utilize the new Emulation drawer.
New scsi.device patch for Classic installations which enables SCSI drives to be used for memory paging (SWAP).
Added NoDriveClick utility for Classic users.
Added DefIcons support for RunInUAE.
Updated TCP/IP stack with much improved DHCP support.
Updated MUI with various fixes.
Various Workbench fixes.
Fixed several USB issues.
Fixed elf.library that could cause programs using shared objects to misbehave when unloading (e.g. Timberwolf).
Hyperion Entertainment wishes to thanks its customers for their continued support in these exciting times for the Amiga platform.
Nice Christmas present from Hyperion to the Amiga Community.
Source:
Hyperion AmigaOS Website
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A W E S O M E!
You guys rock!
Thanks! ;)
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* Introducing the new Emulation drawer with official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs and Workbench files. AmigaOS ROMs are provided for all classic Amiga models and the CD32 platform.
* Added RunInUAE contribution to utilize the new Emulation drawer.
* New scsi.device patch for Classic installations which enables SCSI drives to be used for memory paging (SWAP).
* Added NoDriveClick utility for Classic users.
* Added DefIcons support for RunInUAE.
* Updated TCP/IP stack with much improved DHCP support.
* Updated MUI with various fixes.
* Various Workbench fixes.
* Fixed several USB issues.
* Fixed elf.library that could cause programs using shared objects to misbehave when unloading (e.g. Timberwolf).
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Gief GREX support :(
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Gief GREX support :(
The problem with GREX is that no one* knows how to program it.
I have partly reverse engineered the GREX programming interface. See this (http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=18613) thread on AmiBay. Unfortunately, I don't own the hardware myself and I've got to the point where it is difficult to continue without it ;).
I've got memory and I/O accesses figured out, reading configuration from the PCI card too. I still don't know how to access configuration for PCI slots beyond slot 1. Also, I've never checked if interrupts work the way I suspect they work.
If anyone has information regarding GREX programming, please drop me PM. I'm the guy who wrote this (http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?p5pb+4.amiga+NetBSD-current) driver, and I'd gladly extend it to support GREX. It's open source, so it could be used as a reference to write AmigaOS 4 driver...
* - No one interested in sharing this knowledge.
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Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce the immediate availability for download of Update 4 by registered users of AmigaOS 4.1 for all supported platforms.
Hyperion continues its tradition to provide regular free updates of AmigaOS 4.1 and with the festive season just days away, this is a particularly appropriate time for a free update.
Update 4 requires AmigaOS 4.1 Update 3 prior to installation.
The following new functionality and bug fixes are included in Update 4:
Introducing the new Emulation drawer with official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs and Workbench files. AmigaOS ROMs are provided for all classic Amiga models and the CD32 platform.
Added RunInUAE contribution to utilize the new Emulation drawer.
New scsi.device patch for Classic installations which enables SCSI drives to be used for memory paging (SWAP).
Added NoDriveClick utility for Classic users.
Added DefIcons support for RunInUAE.
Updated TCP/IP stack with much improved DHCP support.
Updated MUI with various fixes.
Various Workbench fixes.
Fixed several USB issues.
Fixed elf.library that could cause programs using shared objects to misbehave when unloading (e.g. Timberwolf).
Hyperion Entertainment wishes to thanks its customers for their continued support in these exciting times for the Amiga platform.
Nice Christmas present from Hyperion to the Amiga Community.
Source:
Hyperion AmigaOS Website
Nice one. But how's the legal affair os the Kickstart ROMs. Aren't these property of Cloanto?
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@Zylesea
I think Cloanto licensed Kickstart ROMs from Amiga. And I think Hyperion and Amiga had an agreement to distribute Kickstart ROMs. I recall they did that in early 4.0 days.
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Interesting, shall give it a whirl if I get a chance over the holidays...
@zylesea
Was it not the case that Hyperion have the rights to distribute up to 3.1 alongside Cloanto? My memory is a little vague on that area of the settlement, but I thought that was included...
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This might sound like flame bait given my sig etc, but doesnt really seem to be much of update ??
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This might sound like flame bait given my sig etc, but doesnt really seem to be much of update ??
Sadly, I have to agree. I was REALLY hoping the fix to the 8bit screen corruption on the RadeonHD4650 would have been included. Without that fix, all the RunInUAE stuff is completely useless to me. :(
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Nice one. But how's the legal affair os the Kickstart ROMs. Aren't these property of Cloanto?
According to the settlement, Hyperion has a license to "use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market the Software in any form (including through sublicensing)". "The software" is defined as "Amiga OS 3.1, [..] the Operating System [..] originally developed, owned and marketed by Commodore Business Machines (CBM) for their Amiga line of computers in 1994."
I'm not a lawyer, so I was never sure if "AmigaOS 3.1" in lawyer-speak means "version 3.1 of AmigaOS" or "all versions of AmigaOS, up to 3.1". Looks like it might be the latter, unless "official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs" in the announcement refers only to 3.1. Though that would make me wonder why only 3.x ROMs are included.
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Sadly, I have to agree. I was REALLY hoping the fix to the 8bit screen corruption on the RadeonHD4650 would have been included. Without that fix, all the RunInUAE stuff is completely useless to me. :(
Why not use it on 16bit then? 8bit screenmodes lack proper color anyway (copper skies, aga stuff etc). Is it too slow on your machine if you do that?
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This might sound like flame bait given my sig etc, but doesnt really seem to be much of update ??
Given the lack of news in the update (with the exception of bundling UAE and OS3), I'd say it's mainly an attempt to clean up the mess they created with OS4.1.3.
So in a way (provided that old bugs are really cleaned away rather than new ones introduced) OS4.1.4 seems to be what OS4.1.3 *should* have been, but not much more on top of that. But good news to the faithful I guess...
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Here you go again.. Update 3 wasn't a "mess". Some people had problems, lots of others didn't. You know, its fine if you're not a fan of OS4, but the way you constantly try and find fault is really sad.
Anyway, Update 4 was mostly bugfixes yes, but thats what the Updates generally are.
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My point was it was not very many bug fixes. Bragging that was a free update was pathetic
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Please explain what "mess" 4.1 u3 created. I've been using it since the update came out and have had zero problems with it.
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Please explain what "mess" 4.1 u3 created. I've been using it since the update came out and have had zero problems with it.
same here. and so far, no problems with OS4.1u4 as well. i don't know why certain non-OS4 users have an obsession with it, but if there is anything pathetic here, it is that need to poke and bait and insult and belittle that seems to be the raison d'etre of some people around here.
anyway, for those who actually use or are interested in the latest version of amigaOS, it's very nice. :)
-- eliyahu
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Cool, looking forward to trying this out. Is there a new build of UAE itself, though? E-UAE 0.8.29 is extremely old.
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@Duce
Recognition of USB devices such as keyboard and mouse were broken in Update 3. Sometimes had to boot the machine twice for it to find the keyboard - and sometimes the mouse scroll wheel was not detected either. Haven't had enough time to play with it yet - but so far both are detected correctly and initialised.
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Cool, looking forward to trying this out. Is there a new build of UAE itself, though? E-UAE 0.8.29 is extremely old.
same version as used previously. it works well with my SAM; turrican 2 and lotus speed challenge work great. that's all i care about. :cool:
-- eliyahu
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@ CGutjahr
Thanks for that information.
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You forgot to say whether that statement was for immediate release or not.
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>I'm not a lawyer, so I was never sure if "AmigaOS 3.1" in lawyer-speak means "version 3.1 of AmigaOS" or "all versions of AmigaOS, up to 3.1". Looks like it might be the latter, unless "official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs" in the announcement refers only to 3.1. Though that would make me wonder why only 3.x ROMs are included.
Hmm, that would seem to imply no V3.9 then, just obsolete V3.1 :-( Did Amiga not have the rights to all versions of their own OS or something!?
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>I'm not a lawyer, so I was never sure if "AmigaOS 3.1" in lawyer-speak means "version 3.1 of AmigaOS" or "all versions of AmigaOS, up to 3.1". Looks like it might be the latter, unless "official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs" in the announcement refers only to 3.1. Though that would make me wonder why only 3.x ROMs are included.
Hmm, that would seem to imply no V3.9 then, just obsolete V3.1 :-( Did Amiga not have the rights to all versions of their own OS or something!?
For anything regarding V3.9, one must speak to H&P.
In fact, an OS4 developer requested up to date contact info on Amigaworld for just that purpose.
source (http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=34629&forum=2&start=60&viewmode=flat&order=0#639648)
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Nobody shouts at Microsoft and I get updates every day on my Windows machines. I just treat them as updates, because that is what they are, just that. They update major flaws and security holes in Windows. It's not an upgrade, it's not a new OS. ;)
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Update 4 was mostly bugfixes yes
Yes indeed, that's all I'm saying.
There was a point in time where OS4.1.3 would be the last stop before OS4.2.0, but after OS4.1.3 there were too many loose ends, to many outstanding bugs that needed to be fixed, hence this quick OS4.1.4 "hotfix" release that indeed is all about bug-fixing. This release obviously aims to be what OS4.1.3 wasn't.
This is a good thing, never claimed otherwise, so please spare me your pointless "oh here we go again" comments.
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This release obviously aims to be what OS4.1.3 wasn't.
One of my goals is more frequent update releases. Update 4 is just another update and it does not imply Update 3 was bad or anything of the sort. AmigaOS will have an Update 5 out in the new year. Does this "obviously" imply Update 4 was a failure as well? Obviously not. Obvious when you think about it.
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Nobody shouts at Microsoft and I get updates every day on my Windows machines. I just treat them as updates, because that is what they are, just that. They update major flaws and security holes in Windows. It's not an upgrade, it's not a new OS. ;)
Exactly my point! :)
And Microsoft would never dream of charging money for bug-fixes either, hence they wouldn't market the fact that they don't as a feature... ;)
Anyway, it's a good thing for OS4 users that they could get these fixes out relatively quickly after the OS4.1.3 release. And as a bonus, OS4 users can now use OS3! :)
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Given the lack of news in the update (with the exception of bundling UAE and OS3), I'd say it's mainly an attempt to clean up the mess they created with OS4.1.3....
ah good ol grandma always being consistent on all OS4 threads, hmm btw, wonder why your buddy Piru hasn't made his usual appearance as well??
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I've never paid one thin dime for any of the 4.1 updates, Takemehomegrandma.
As for the USB problems with u3, if they were there I never hit 'em. I just finished plugging in a brand new G 19 keyboard, G 9 mouse and a 8 GB USB key into my SAM 440ep system with zero issues in prep for installing u4.
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And as a bonus, OS4 users can now use OS3! :)
How's that done? Under emulation? I was just wondering that about 30 minutes ago. :)
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Thank You Hyperion!
I love that it (amigaos 4.1.4)works and improves on my old amigaone-g3.
Michael
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Fantastic Christmas grif from Hyperion, thanks guys!
Although the sound driver for Sam460 is missing still?
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How's that done? Under emulation? I was just wondering that about 30 minutes ago. :)
Yes, UAE with OS3 bundled AFAIK.
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I would love an OS4 machine, now that it seems like they do everything I'd need.
Shame they're prohibitively expensive.
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I would love an OS4 machine, now that it seems like they do everything I'd need.
Shame they're prohibitively expensive.
just remembered about the notebooks...
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Fantastic Christmas grif from Hyperion, thanks guys!
Yes, a fine Christmas gift! Thanks.
And Happy New Year!
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
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Downloaded Update 4 and completed update. Testing out my stuff right now.
Thanks,
redfox
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@gizmo350
Most of my 68K programs are system friendly and work just fine with OS4. However, I have a few very old programs which require AmigaOS 3.1 and will not work with OS4. They will however work with E-UAE (the Ubiquitous Amiga Emulator). Some of the old games expect classic Amiga hardware, which is emulated by E-UAE.
The OS4/PPC version of E-UAE has been available for many years. E-UAE is the same concept as WinUAE and Amiga Forever. It allows a person to emulate a classic Amiga on newer hardware. You require an Amiga Kickstart ROM and Workbench files, which are not included in the E-UAE package.
In my case, I have used E-UAE for several years to create an AmigaOS 3.1 system for a few very old programs which will not run on OS4. When I launch E-UAE, a Workbench 3.1 Workbench Screen opens up ontop of my OS4 Workbench and I am able to run the old programs just as if I was using my old Amiga 2000HD. This method has worked ok for me.
The RunInUAE package included with OS4 Update 4 automates many of the steps I currently do manually. I have not tried this program yet.. I am assuming the Amiga Kickstart ROMs and Workbench files have been included with OS4 Update 4 to make it easier for people to use E-UAE and RunInUAE. Many people still like to run older games.
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redfox
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Installed just fine in under 1 minute on a SAM 440ep running a 32 GB SSD/SATA hard disk. Works well, no issues with the installation or the update itself.
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Thanks Redfox! Well, without trying to go off topic too far, how do you load your 68K software from your old floppys onto your OS4 machine... or do you download (or create) ADFs? I have a lot of 68K productivity software on floppy that would be nice to use.
BTW, I can't even download the new OS4 update as Hyperion's website seems to have crashed! :( Probably from everyone trying to download the update at the same time!
Rog..........
@gizmo350
Most of my 68K programs are system friendly and work just fine with OS4. However, I have a few very old programs which require AmigaOS 3.1 and will not work with OS4. They will however work with E-UAE (the Ubiquitous Amiga Emulator). Some of the old games expect classic Amiga hardware, which is emulated by E-UAE.
The OS4/PPC version of E-UAE has been available for many years. E-UAE is the same concept as WinUAE and Amiga Forever. It allows a person to emulate a classic Amiga on newer hardware. You require an Amiga Kickstart ROM and Workbench files, which are not included in the E-UAE package.
In my case, I have used E-UAE for several years to create an AmigaOS 3.1 system for a few very old programs which will not run on OS4. When I launch E-UAE, a Workbench 3.1 Workbench Screen opens up ontop of my OS4 Workbench and I am able to run the old programs just as if I was using my old Amiga 2000HD. This method has worked ok for me.
The RunInUAE package included with OS4 Update 4 automates many of the steps I currently do manually. I have not tried this program yet.. I am assuming the Amiga Kickstart ROMs and Workbench files have been included with OS4 Update 4 to make it easier for people to use E-UAE and RunInUAE. Many people still like to run older games.
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redfox
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And Microsoft would never dream of charging money for bug-fixes either, hence they wouldn't market the fact that they don't as a feature... ;)
Really? They wouldn't market the fact?
Then what do you call this? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Understanding-Windows-automatic-updating
Try question 3 for size. Then apologise.
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AmigaOS will have an Update 5 out in the new year.
Good to hear.
Are there any plans, in the future (AmigaOS4.2?), of incorporating something like AmiUpdate into the OS to implement minor buxfixes on the fly or is the plan to continue with these "batch" bugfixes for the foreseeable future?
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Even if AmiUpdate was integrated into the OS, I don't think piecemeal updates would be a good idea.
Doing updates this way means that the OS can be tested as a whole, with all components at a specific version to make sure they work well together, and end users are at a baseline that has been specifically tested.
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I agree with Xeron, the piecemeal approach would not be good.
However, I see a lot of value in an update app for OS4 that can simply grab the latest update off Hyperion's support site using your credentials on your account there.
But then again, simply logging on and grabbing a small LHA file isn't a hell of a lot of work, and it's not like there's a patch every 5 days or anything.
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@gizmo350
how do you load your 68K software from your old floppys onto your OS4 machine... or do you download (or create) ADFs?
That's the million dollar question. My OS4 system does not have a floppy disk drive. Back when I first built my OS4 system, I purchased Amiga Explorer to copy some programs from my old A2000HD hard drive to a pc where I burned them to a CD-RW disc. Then I copied the files from the CD to my OS4 hard drive. That is how I installed Final Writer 97 on my OS4 system (copied the entire FinalWriter drawer from my old system to CD and then to my new system). Since that time, I have downloaded some programs, such as TVPaint, Real3D and Imagine 3.0 which unarchive into ADF files (or floppies). I used E-UAE to install TVPaint, Real3D and Imagine 3.0 onto my AmigaOS 3.1 Workbench partition which is actaully just a drawer on my one of my OS4 partitions. Once these programs were installed on the hard drive, I just moved the program drawers to a more convenient location where I could easily use them directly from OS4.
Back in the day, I also used Amiga Explorer to copy the AmigaOS 3.1 Workbench, Install and Extras floppies as ADF files to the CD-RW disc. Same with my Amiga kickstart ROM. Now these files come standard with the AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4.
E-UAE can mount ADF files as floppy disks.
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Using a Catweasel is a lot easier for reading Amiga disks/programs. :)
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This might sound like flame bait given my sig etc, but doesnt really seem to be much of update ??
More would have always been better, of course ;)
Fact is, though, that many bug fixes that were made in the past few years did not find their way into the updates until very recently. For example, there was a serious bug in the DHCP handling of the Roadshow TCP/IP stack which was resolved in late 2010, and there were a buch of issues with the shell which were resolved even earlier. This update finally makes these available for everybody.
And the integrated UAE isn't too shabby either ;)
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>I'm not a lawyer, so I was never sure if "AmigaOS 3.1" in lawyer-speak means "version 3.1 of AmigaOS" or "all versions of AmigaOS, up to 3.1". Looks like it might be the latter, unless "official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs" in the announcement refers only to 3.1. Though that would make me wonder why only 3.x ROMs are included.
Hmm, that would seem to imply no V3.9 then, just obsolete V3.1 :-( Did Amiga not have the rights to all versions of their own OS or something!?
Short answer: no.
The 3.5 and 3.9 updates strictly consisted of updated material and contributions by 3rd party developers: Amiga International did not own the end product in any way whatsoever.
Big chunks of 3.5/3.9 came from the publisher Haage & Partner, who chose not to continue further product development after the 3.9 release. This is also part of the reason why there is none of the Haage & Partner developed code in the OS 4 release.
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Short answer: no.
The 3.5 and 3.9 updates strictly consisted of updated material and contributions by 3rd party developers: Amiga International did not own the end product in any way whatsoever.
Big chunks of 3.5/3.9 came from the publisher Haage & Partner, who chose not to continue further product development after the 3.9 release. This is also part of the reason why there is none of the Haage & Partner developed code in the OS 4 release.
And most of the 3.5/3.5 pieces have been natively reimplemented or re-contributed by their authors for 4.x. So I think 3.1 is an appropriate baseline for a Classic environment for things that don't run properly with the integrated JIT/interpreted emulator.
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@gizmo350
E-UAE can mount ADF files as floppy disks.
Disk Image Device is a much better solution since it allows you to mount ADF and other disk image files directly to Workbench on OS4. You can use to mount ISO files rather than burn a disk, it should be handy for CD32 emulation.
http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/storage/diskimage_device.lha
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And Microsoft would never dream of charging money for bug-fixes either, hence they wouldn't market the fact that they don't as a feature... ;)
Microsoft never market the fact that their updates are free according to takemehomegrandma. He doesn't know what he's talking about:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/downloads/service-packs
And that's the second Microsoft reference to free updates.
Will takemehomegrandma retract his statement or apologise before I post the next example? Stay tuned folks.
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Advertise free updates? Windows Update is on by default, you want a hand written letter? My iMac I must check for OS updates, should I be sending Apple a sternly worded letter for not holding my hand and calling me personally when a patch is made available?
He won't, Aj. He's to MorphOS as Dammy is to C-USA. Driven away more users to his "Golden Boy" choice than he's ever attracted.
Takemehomegrandma:
I've never paid one thin dime for an update on an in cycle Microsoft product, Takemehomegrandma, and either have you or anyone else. I haven't paid one thin dime for an AmigaOS 4.1 update either, and outright wouldn't. 5.0 comes and it costs money and is worth it? Sure. 4.2, 4.4, 4.9 or another incremental if the software keeps updating at such a rapid pace as it is where it's merely fixes and mild additions, rather than a whole new ballgame? No. Same reason why no one has ever paid for an in cycle SP (Service Pack) on Windows.
I mean, 95 to 98, 2000 to 2003/XP, XP to Vista/2008, Vista to 7, sure. Of course I paid money if I wanted the new product. That's a new version, if you don't want nor need the new version of Windows, no different than not paying up for 3.5/3.9 for Amiga OS from 3.1, or from Snow Leopard to Lion on the Mac side.
Hell, while we're at it - I don't recall Commodore sending me a free set of ROM's and disks when 3.1 came available when I still had my A3000 on 1.3/2.1, early 16 mhz A3000. I paid for that just like everyone else did.
Everything in cycle in that product range is an incremental update, and should be a free patch. You want to spin it like the 2.7 to 3.0 update for MorphOS being free is the equivalent of MS mailing everyone that bought Windows 95 a free copy of Win 8, knock yourself out, LOL.
I'll raise a glass to the MOS guys that are busting ass to make good product, but your false statements about anything that doesn't get your stamp of approval is getting redundant. It's not amusing, it's not pot stirring or gentle ribbing, it's false and dumb, lol. It detracts from the very kind gesture that the MOS team is offering with the "to 3.0" free update.
eg: the OS 4.1u3 "mess", something you never even ran yet you still insist went off like a nuclear bomb on the OS4 community, which it did not.
the claim that MS charges for in cycle updates, which there's absolutely no deliberation about. They don't, and you are wrong.
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just remembered about the notebooks...
yeah, I'm interested to hear more information on these.
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(First - I did not introduce MorphOS to this thread, "Duce" did, and I'm merely replying)
@Duce
Well in the news about this release they beat the big drum of how this update is free, "Hyperion continues its tradition to provide regular free updates of AmigaOS 4.1 and with the festive season just days away, this is a particularly appropriate time for a free update.". It's christmas and all, here is a present, etc.
First, this is an update *they had to* release as soon as possible after the OS4.1.3 release, there was no choice there (and since the question was asked elsewhere – YES, you who had to downgrade to OS4.1.2 *must* re-install OS4.1.3 prior to installing OS4.1.4!), and the idea that they would charge money for a bandage patch, which this update really is, is ridiculous (nobody does that!), and so is marketing it as some kind of Free Christmas Gift on courtesy of Hyperion in this context. Like in "1984", when the news was "Chocolate production will not decrease from 25 thousand tons" or whatever, they changed it to "Chocolate production will increase to 25 thousand tons" and everyone cheered. Spin-doctors playing with words and version numbers. No, fixing the bugs, and doing it for free, is a damn obligation they have to their paying customers!
People sometimes express the opinion that MorphOS is expensive, and sure, €111 can be a lot of money for a hobby. But you also get *a lot* for it, in the case of MorphOS. I have had MorphOS since v1.0, so I have had v1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, and I will soon have 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, etc, etc. I have paid the license cost *once* for all this.
OS4.0 did cost money. Then they charged the *full cost* all over again at 4.1, and AFAIK they will charge the users *yet again* as soon as 4.2 gets released. I'm perfectly fine with that, it's their choice. They want money, and if users are prepared to pay, then why not? It's a free world!
What bugs me is when ssolie, the "OS4 development lead" (Mr. OS4 himself) are trying to make it sound like they would be just as generous as the MorphOS team with updates, when they are clearly not, especially when he obviously has a grudge against MorphOS for *even charging money at all* for the license (along with many snide remarks on the MorphOS's teams work and priorities, how the MorphOS team has tricked the users by not delivering what ssolie thinks MorphOS is all about, etc, etc):
Does anybody have a guess as to how many MorphOS licenses have been sold so far? Must be in the hundreds by now, maybe even thousands? I remember Genesi boasting about how many boards they sold or had given away so there must be a very large base of hardware out there and potential MorphOS 2.x users.
(http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6285&forum=3&start=0)Then the whole issue of money popped up when at least one dev said he wasn't doing it for any money. When I asked where the money was going and got jumped on it made me wonder where those payments were really going. Fab was nice enough to straighten me out in IRC the first time but of course I misunderstood amidst the barrage of insults and joking around. It seems Ralph Schmidt is collecting all the money; still no word on whether he is incorporated or whatever. That is kinda important to know these days especially if there is a dispute or something. There would be nothing stopping Mr. Schmidt from just taking the money and disappearing leaving the rest of the team stranded is there? Oh well, I suppose nobody cares about such matters.
(http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6285&forum=3&start=9)Looks like about 500 licenses are sold so far at say 150 EUR a pop means Ralph Schmidt has taken in 75,000 EUR which is getting close to $100,000 USD.
(http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6308&forum=3&start=0)
:rolleyes:
But I digress.
*It is* a good thing that the OS4 users can now enjoy this update that is mostly bugfixes (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=672592&postcount=14) for an OS that really didn't need bugfixes after reaching version 4.1.3 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=672619&postcount=27), and this totally for free, since charging once and then free is the traditional Hyperion ways, and it's also a Christmas present (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=672528&postcount=1) (not that they were obligated to, of course not)!
:)
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Even the WW1 soldiers on opposite sides of the battlefield managed to have a truce for Christmas.
Now cheer up and make merry, you 'orrible lot!
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Even the WW1 soldiers on opposite sides of the battlefield managed to have a truce for Christmas.
Now cheer up and make merry, you 'orrible lot!
Yes Sir!
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@takemehomegrandma
Well OS 4.1 was pretty much a completely new product with new kernel and huge updates. Much like MorphOS 2.x (which you had to pay for), and subsequent updates to MorphOS 2.x were bugfixes with some new features, free updates of course, as the OS4.1 updates are free.
Quite similar to OS4 to 4.1 in that respect, so I think you are being unfair here.
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Good going.
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@Rob
Thanks for suggesting Disk Image Device. I will give it a try.
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