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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: AmigaClassicRule on December 18, 2011, 05:36:57 AM
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I know someone who is offering me an Amiga 4000 toaster or an Amiga 1200 expanded to tower with all the cool expansion gadgets and toys for the Amiga 1200 (it is towered to be an Amiga 4000) for free he is giving it to me for free in exchange I sell LOTS AND LOTS and lots of Amiga hardware for him. So the question to you guys, what is the best choice for me? An Amiga 1200 towered or an Amiga 4000 with toaster? Thanks in advance.
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Depends whats in them and what you want to do wth them. Video Toaster is now little more than an interesting curiousity, so pretty much worthless minus novelty factor.
Id base my decision on specs, of which youve provided none :)
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I'm still new to the AGA machines, but as far as I've seen the 1200 is the Amiga with the most support these days, I'd probably go for that.
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If it was an Amiga 4000 Tower, Commordore, not Escom, I'd do that.
This case I'd do the A1200 as that is one of the more common systems and hence you can find alot more support and goodies for it.
Just my 2cents though.
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So be it then. I have an Amiga 500 with external hard drive, should I sell my Amiga 500 in replace for a towered Amiga 120...damn I cannot finish this sentence!! Pfft duh!!!
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If a4000 would have 060 accelerator, I'd take it as those are too expensive and rare to get otherwise. But in other cases A1200 is easier and cheaper to expand...
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A4000 every time for me.
1200s need a lot of hackery to get up to maxed-out 4000 speed, and stability on heavily notified systems is difficult to maintain. On the 4000 you just need a PCI bus and a CS-PPC and you have the best classic you can get.
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If it was an Amiga 4000 Tower, Commordore, not Escom, I'd do that.
If it was a Commodore model, you'd make a mint off it, they only made 200 or so units, one went on ebay for something crazy like $10K a few years back iirc.
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If it was a Commodore model, you'd make a mint off it, they only made 200 or so units, one went on ebay for something crazy like $10K a few years back iirc.
I don't recall the amiga technologies ones being very different, apart from the branding so it would be worth faking one for that kind of money.
The only new hardware for the a1200 is the 030 cards, which aren't that exciting. I'd probably go for the a4000 if it had an 040 or 060. The only thing that would sway me is if the a1200 had a PPC+graphics cards and the a4000 didn't.
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I don't recall the amiga technologies ones being very different, apart from the branding so it would be worth faking one for that kind of money.
They had totally different case/look, the AT version was a modified PC case, the CBM one was custom.
Amiga technologies: http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/a40t.jpg
Commodore: http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/a4000t_big.jpg
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I don't recall the amiga technologies ones being very different, apart from the branding so it would be worth faking one for that kind of money.
Obvious difference: whole case front
(http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_oct02/a_scuzz_oct10_82.jpg)
(http://www.amiga-hardware.com/display_photos/a4000tcommodore_2.gif)
Sure, it might still be worth getting some case fronts molded up, but it's not as easy as just changing a label.
As for the OP's question, I'd tend to lean towards the A1200, especially if you don't get to look at the A4000's board for battery damage first.
edit: yeah, what danwood said, though the case metal was the same (both made by Enlight.)
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I know someone who is offering me an Amiga 4000 toaster or an Amiga 1200 expanded to tower with all the cool expansion gadgets and toys for the Amiga 1200 (it is towered to be an Amiga 4000) for free he is giving it to me for free in exchange I sell LOTS AND LOTS and lots of Amiga hardware for him. So the question to you guys, what is the best choice for me? An Amiga 1200 towered or an Amiga 4000 with toaster? Thanks in advance.
I like the 1200. it is my favorite Amiga...but
I would look at the specs of both systems before making a decision.
- CPU (Accelerator boards, stock CPU)
- Condition, Damage due to battery leak(4000), etc.
- Bussboards(PCI or whatever strange thing might be in a 1200)
- Graphics cards
- Other Expansions such as USB
Also look at quality of tower conversion. I have seen some strange stuff from 6 foot tall (1.8288 meters for you metric nuts) 4000s and some really hacky shoehorning of poor little A1200 motherboards into PC cases.
Now, this is a towered A1200 so if both systems are pretty equivalent then I would take the 4000. A1200s are designed to be desktop computers.
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If a4000 would have 060 accelerator, I'd take it as those are too expensive and rare to get otherwise. But in other cases A1200 is easier and cheaper to expand...
You can get relatively cheap 030 boards and a subway USB, but I don't see this plethora of A1200 hardware you speak of...
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What I will do then is simple. I will wait next week when I receive closet worth of Amiga hardware and the Amiga systems. I will boot both Amiga 4000 and Amiga 1200 and see the specs of them both. I will dissect them both to core in terms of specs then I will post the specs here. I will wait for pages worth of response, and count how many votes for the A1200 based on the specs I posted here and how many votes for the A4000. If the A4000 votes are more than the A1200 I will take the A4000, if in the other hand it is the other way around, then I will take the A1200. Personally I would take them both but the guy said either or OR. So I am forced to decide and I do not mind picking the Amiga based on the votes picked here because I LOVE THEM EQUALLY both...so I am happy with whatever decisions you GUYS make here.
I would simply rely on the fact the most votes counted here is for my extreme benefit and that when I pick the Amiga based on the votes you guys placed here, it will be the best choice I made.
Oh: I will also point out if the Amiga 4000 is EVEN tower from the first place.
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Getting them and checking them out before deciding is a good idea, but don't put it to a poll. Take everyone's advice into consideration, but go with what you want, you'll be much happier that way.