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Operating System Specific Discussions => MorphOS => MorphOS -- Hardware requirements and availability discussion => Topic started by: SACC-guy on December 09, 2011, 07:00:05 PM
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I lost track.
I thought that after amigadave showed morphos 3.0 beta at Amiwest2011 on his powerbookg4, the latest version was to be released.
What happened?
I have a g4 powerbook 1.67 and would like to retry morphos.
I did install 2.6 on my kids emac and mac mini...but they took back their computers. (sigh)
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I recall hearing "December," but I don't know that they gave a specific date.
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It's supposed to be out before the end of December... I recently bought a Powerbook 1.67 GHz (A1139 model) to get ready for MOS 3.0 xperience besides my Peggy!
Cheers,
Dragster
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I lost track.
I thought that after amigadave showed morphos 3.0 beta at Amiwest2011 on his powerbookg4, the latest version was to be released.
What happened?
I have a g4 powerbook 1.67 and would like to retry morphos.
I did install 2.6 on my kids emac and mac mini...but they took back their computers. (sigh)
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Like others have stated, it is supposed to be released before the end of this year, but there is no specific date set for it's release that I have seen anywhere.
It is also possible that it could be released today, or that it could be late and not be released until a month or two from today. You know how unpredictable software development can be. Most likely they will release it later this month, when they said they would.
Everyone should realize that support for the G4 PowerBooks will be a "Work in Progress" for a while and not all features will be finished with the initial release of MorphOS3.0. It might be 3.1, 3.2, or even 3.3 before the MorphOS Dev. Team is satisfied with their work on drivers for the hardware included in the G4 PowerBooks, such as 3D graphic acceleration, PCMCIA/Cardbus slot support, Ethernet driver support, or any number of other optimizations that they are working on. The presentation that Fab did not too long ago explained much of what is still being worked on and the fact that not all features would be completed in the initial release of MorphOS3.0.
MorphOS3.0 with support for a few models of the G4 PowerBook is a significant step forward and includes a lot of work beyond MorphOS2.7. Many people are excited and waiting for this release.
I expect it to boost the MorphOS user base by quite a few dozen new users, as well as many existing users that will add a G4 PowerBook to their existing MorphOS compatible computer(s).
Writing drivers for undocumented hardware must be difficult and probably not much fun at times, so I have the greatest admiration for the MorphOS Development Team for taking on the task of porting MorphOS to so many undocumented Mac PPC systems. They are a talented bunch of guys.
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Now, it should be launched in a couple of weeks...
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Dave's quite right that some features may not make it into 3.0.
3D acceleration for Powerbooks (and R300 card users) probably won't happen just yet.
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Any update on this? I have a G4 powerbook here and am waiting for 3.0 before I spend the $ on morphos... but still no 3.0?
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It's February now.
Just checking in. I too am waiting for version 3 morphOS.
any hope or just...
It's done when it's done (what else is new)
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It's march now, any news?
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When it is done.
To be more precise. Team never announces official date for a simple reason: deadline sucks. Fixing bugs, polishing every aspect of the system etc take a fair amount of time. With a deadline, you can't fix everything nicely...
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Have my Power Mac on it's way to give 3.0 a try :-) Just wish they supported more video cards, there are some cheaper options (and faster) than 9000/9100/9200/9250 ;-)
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There were some false rumours about release dates... it was only said "not before december", but of course people took it "in december!!!11". It's done when it's done.
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There were some false rumours about release dates... it was only said "not before december", but of course people took it "in december!!!11". It's done when it's done.
"This year [2011], but not before December" is how I remember it.
:kitty:
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Have my Power Mac on it's way to give 3.0 a try :-) Just wish they supported more video cards, there are some cheaper options (and faster) than 9000/9100/9200/9250 ;-)
I have a Radeon9800XT in my Powermac.
Currently we don't have hardware 3D acceleration for that card, but I don't really miss it (and it will come in future updates).
There has also been some talk about other, higher end cards.
But 3.0 focuses on improving R200 performance (I don't think R300 3D will even be included).
Things do advance, but with a limited number of developers, the rate is somewhat slow.
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Well, since 2012 is being announced "The year of the 3", I guess Dec 31st could be considered some kind of a deadline.
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Have my Power Mac on it's way to give 3.0 a try :-) Just wish they supported more video cards, there are some cheaper options (and faster) than 9000/9100/9200/9250 ;-)
I had a friend re-flash my Radeon 8500 PC video card to work in my G4 PowerMac, so I can use it when running MorphOS2.7. I think it might be the fastest video card that is fully supported by MorphOS with 3D drivers.
It is a 128mb VRAM video card, but unfortunately the Mac bios for it only allows 64mb of that VRAM to be seen when converted and used in a Mac. Since I never ran into a low video RAM problem with my current Radeon 9000Pro, which only has 64mb of VRAM, I am not expecting any problems with the Radeon 8500 with only half of its 128mb of VRAM recognized.
I highly recommend the Radeon 8500 (but not the 8500LE) for use in a MorphOS G4 PowerMac. Soon we expect more drivers for other newer and faster (or as fast) video cards than the 8500, but until they are finished, you can't go wrong with the Radeon 8500. If you can find one on eBay, or Craig's List at a low price, buy it.
As for the question about when will MorphOS3.0 be released, I can only repeat what I previously wrote. Writing drivers for undocumented hardware is not an easy task. I would guess that there is one or more part of MorphOS3.0 for the G4 PowerBook that is giving the MorphOS Dev. Team problems, or they are just not satisfied with some parts that have been worked on, but are not really finished.
No telling what is holding up the release, but I know from my own experience with prior releases of MorphOS, that the standard of quality that the MorphOS Dev. Team holds themselves to on each new release, is very high, so I am sure that they don't want to lower that standard for this very important milestone in the development of MorphOS, by releasing a version of MorphOS3.0 that is any less in quality than their prior releases.
I have confidence that there is a good reason for the delay and I agree with the MorphOS Dev. Team's prior (and apparently current) practice of not releasing versions of MorphOS that are not ready for the general public. I can confirm from my use of the beta version that was given to me last Oct. for the AmiWest Show, that it was not yet ready for release at that time, but I won't comment on what parts still needed work.
I can only repeat my earlier advice of patience. The MorphOS Dev. Team has an excellent track record for knowing when their work is ready for a release, so trust them to know when 3.0 is ready for release.
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It's march now, any news?
Two more weeks!
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Two more weeks!
Is that real information, a joke, or another tease?
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Two more weeks!
Seriously Tedd?
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HUH!!!
I must be at the wrong site, I thought this was an Amiga site. But all I see here is a bunch of MAC fanboys.
Gosh I think the new owner sold us out, he probably is a MAC fanboy too!!!
smerf
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Hi,
Anybody seen any real Amiga users here???
Those who just dread about hearing about MAC junk, and go into a pukin rage whenever they touch a MAC.
Maybe Franko was right, and he saw this event coming, a bunch of Mac users taking over Amiga.org,
smerf
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Two more weeks!
that is the same "Two more weeks!" as the delivery date for Aladdin v6.0 for Amiga.
In other words, they will be done when they are done.
@smerf,
If you are going to get so upset about MorphOS users writing about the hardware that it runs on, you had better avoid the MorphOS -- Hardware requirements and availability discussion forum here on Amiga.org.
You do realize that this site supports many different Amiga inspired platforms and has separate forums for each of them. You would experience a lot less upset and sick feelings if you would just avoid reading anything in the MorphOS forum sections, as the most popular hardware that MorphOS runs on right now is made by a manufacturer that makes you ill just to think of. That is a personal problem that not many members here share with you.
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I have confidence that there is a good reason for the delay
One developer temporarily not having access to his machine and another one breaking his wrist could cause some serious problems for a team that small with an amount of work that big and tricky.
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There are miuch delays and I want enjoy the new MorphOS 3.0 on my MacMini, and I bough the apple computer for this reason and the test my own software. Humm..
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There are miuch delays and I want enjoy the new MorphOS 3.0 on my MacMini, and I bough the apple computer for this reason and the test my own software. Humm..
2.7 runs just fine on the mini. The biggest improvement of 3.0 will be Powerbook support. Hence, if you have a 2.7 capable machine waiting for 3.0 is rather easy. Anyway, I am confident that waiting will not last too long anymore.
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2.7 runs just fine on the mini.
Indeed, and it has been stated that MorphOS 3.0 will be a free upgrade for owners of 2.x licenses (on the same piece of hardware, obviously).
Anyway, I am confident that waiting will not last too long anymore.
Inside knowledge, IRC Rumour, Or just a hunch?
Care to share? ;)
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2.7 runs just fine on the mini. The biggest improvement of 3.0 will be Powerbook support. Hence, if you have a 2.7 capable machine waiting for 3.0 is rather easy. Anyway, I am confident that waiting will not last too long anymore.
Only that I want more software and tools.....
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Hi,
Anybody seen any real Amiga users here???
Those who just dread about hearing about MAC junk, and go into a pukin rage whenever they touch a MAC.
Maybe Franko was right, and he saw this event coming, a bunch of Mac users taking over Amiga.org,
smerf
Honestly Smerf,
Would you lay off?
If I could run MorphOS on another platform as fast as my Mac I would.
But the Pegasos tops out at 1.4GHz (and those processor cards are hard to find, most are 1GHz).
And here's a list of the non apple components in my Quicksilcer.
Processor card, memory, hard drives, DVD drive, video card, USB 2.0 card, Soundblaster Live card (this is not even supported by OSX), network card, and SCSI card.
So basically, the case, motherboard and power supply are Apple.
And I'm considering replacing the case and power supply.
I don't even have OSX on this machine.
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HUH!!!
I must be at the wrong site, I thought this was an Amiga site. But all I see here is a bunch of MAC fanboys. Gosh I think the new owner sold us out, he probably is a MAC fanboy too!!! smerf
What a strange posting... For normally wired individuals, obviously a mac is good, cheap hardware to run the MorphOS operating system on. It is not a fanboy issue, it is a logical one. Thus the quoted posting is non-productive. :laugh1:
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Hi,
Anybody seen any real Amiga users here???
Those who just dread about hearing about MAC junk, and go into a pukin rage whenever they touch a MAC.
Maybe Franko was right, and he saw this event coming, a bunch of Mac users taking over Amiga.org,
smerf
Perhaps you should join him, being banned or just have a nice cup of shut the f*ck up??!??
Seriously, who cares if MorphOS is using mac technology or not.
God, I can't stand *ANY* of these Amiga-flavored zealots...........
:evil:
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Inside knowledge, IRC Rumour, Or just a hunch?
Care to share? ;)
Eventually just a hunch. But tangible enough that I bought a Powerbook just yesterday. My last machine waited a few months for MorphOS to come to it though...
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HUH!!!
I must be at the wrong site, I thought this was an Amiga site. But all I see here is a bunch of MAC fanboys.
Mac fanboi?? Pah - Quite the contrary. Do you know a better way to p*ss on Apple than to wipe out their "holy OS X" and blasphemically install a "real OS" on it. Try harder next time.
Those passive guys ignoring all the minis and Powerbooks out there let Apple do their things, MorphOS users free that poor hardware from Apple's occupation ;-). That's the spirit!