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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: mrmoonlight on November 19, 2011, 09:05:20 PM

Title: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 19, 2011, 09:05:20 PM
Hi i have just installed  os 3.9 again om my Amiga 1200,all went well until i tried to install the Boingbag  1   and it kept saying error Interpreter executing non - function in line 3 ,does this mean theres a fault with the Boingbag and if so where can i obtain one that is not corrupted ,any help please ,best wishes Brian.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: Ancalimon on November 19, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
my guess:  you have an old version of "installer" lurking around somewhere.

Maybe C:  or Sys:Tools

mine is in C:

Installer 44.10
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 19, 2011, 09:57:52 PM
Quote from: FaLLeNOnE;668466
my guess:  you have an old version of "installer" lurking around somewhere.

Maybe C:  or Sys:Tools

mine is in C:

Installer 44.10


Wow ,you were spot on ,it was in tools ,i cant  thank you enough ,i would have been pulling my hair out by the time i thought of that ,thanks again my friend,very best wishes Brian.:laughing:
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: Ancalimon on November 19, 2011, 10:00:51 PM
What can I say... I'm a professional easy problem solver. ;P

You can always blame installers of programs.

Always check the files inside the program directory you want to install first.  Compare the versions with the files on your libs, c, l, etc...

When you install them, they sometimes might copy old versions to somewhere in your Path or worse yet overwrite them.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 19, 2011, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: FaLLeNOnE;668468
What can I say... I'm a professional easy problem solver. ;P

You can always blame installers of programs.

Always check the files inside the program directory you want to install first.  Compare the versions with the files on your libs, c, l, etc...

When you install them, they sometimes might copy old versions to somewhere in your Path or worse yet overwrite them.


Hi ,im kind of still new to this ,but this is a brilliant forum ,and  all the help is priceless ,again i must thankyou ,very best wishes Brian.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 20, 2011, 02:04:55 PM
Hi again, i have a question ,My Amiga 1200 with a matrix accelerator fitted 32mb ram works quite well ,but after installing Boingbags 1+2 there was no improvement ,infact the The Amplifier became quite unstable ,so i then installed
      Boingbag 3. woe what a mistake that was ,make sure you make a cold start after installing 3 ,and i did ,so that was that ,back to a fresh install, wonderful the the Amp now just plays track after track ,of wonderful Beatle music, so do i really need to install all the Boingbags?,well i hope the answer is no ,lol ,just a thought ,best wishes Brian.:)
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: marcfrick2112 on November 20, 2011, 07:39:26 PM
mrmoonlight, well I always had trouble with AMPlifier, so I switched to the uglier (but funtional) SongPlayer... You may also want to play around with AMPlifier's config. a little.. I finally got it working fairly well on my A1200 Tower...
:afro:
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 20, 2011, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: marcfrick2112;668514
mrmoonlight, well I always had trouble with AMPlifier, so I switched to the uglier (but funtional) SongPlayer... You may also want to play around with AMPlifier's config. a little.. I finally got it working fairly well on my A1200 Tower...
:afro:


Hi,i think you are right,i have played about with the Amplifier ,in the past ,and some times it works very well ,but it never lasts , so songplayer it will have to be ,thanks again for your help ,very best wishes Brian.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: Ancalimon on November 20, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: mrmoonlight;668496
Hi again, i have a question ,My Amiga 1200 with a matrix accelerator fitted 32mb ram works quite well ,but after installing Boingbags 1+2 there was no improvement ,infact the The Amplifier became quite unstable ,so i then installed
      Boingbag 3. woe what a mistake that was ,make sure you make a cold start after installing 3 ,and i did ,so that was that ,back to a fresh install, wonderful the the Amp now just plays track after track ,of wonderful Beatle music, so do i really need to install all the Boingbags?,well i hope the answer is no ,lol ,just a thought ,best wishes Brian.:)

boingbag1 and 2 are official.

boingbad3 and 4 are unofficial and there are some files in them that were updated after boingbag2. you can simply handpick those that work with your setup.

As far as I know, some parts of AmigaOS ROM Update from boinbag2 can be incompatible with certain Amiga hardware like the exec part. You can simply skip certain parts of the rom update.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: marcfrick2112 on November 20, 2011, 09:17:57 PM
Another thing,
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make sure you make a cold start after installing 3

I recommend to a cold start after ANY post OS3.5 install or update... Due to the reboot to update the ROM... Something to do with KickTagPointers, is it?
Anyway, you update the WB install, copies the new OS ROM update to the HD, but the old one is still locked in memory... :(

One of the few times, I will actually wait the recommended 30 secs. before turning my miggy back on! LOL!
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: Minuous on November 20, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
Quote from: mrmoonlight;668496
so i then installed
      Boingbag 3. woe what a mistake that was ,make sure you make a cold start after installing 3 ,and i did ,so that was that ,back to a fresh install


Hello, I am the maintainer of the BB3 and BB4 packages. These packages do work on most systems. Could you please provide a more detailed bug report about exactly what problem BB3 is causing on your system, and I will investigate. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 20, 2011, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: Minuous;668526
Hello, I am the maintainer of the BB3 and BB4 packages. These packages do work on most systems. Could you please provide a more detailed bug report about exactly what problem BB3 is causing on your system, and I will investigate. Many thanks.


Hi ,let me first say i am no expert on the Amiga ,but the worst problem was it made the Amplifier crash with in seconds of the song playing ,the same songs that would play all day before i installed the boingbags ,the settings were all low ,the Amiga is a Amiga 1200 with a matrix accelerator with 32 mb ram ,and plays mono very well ,im not sure what else you want to know ,best wishes Brian.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: marcfrick2112 on November 22, 2011, 01:42:23 AM
Which processor do ya have in your Amiga, mrmoonlight?
Hate to say, but my A4000 WarpEngine ('040/40) can play 1 or 2 MP3's, if lucky.. and that's using SongPlayer. AMPlififier takes more CPU power yet. (IMHO)
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: Ancalimon on November 22, 2011, 04:15:39 AM
Did you try messing with the settings of Amplifier?

As far as I remember, something got updated for Amplifier (paulaaudio.device?)
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 25, 2011, 06:46:40 PM
Quote from: marcfrick2112;668637
Which processor do ya have in your Amiga, mrmoonlight?
Hate to say, but my A4000 WarpEngine ('040/40) can play 1 or 2 MP3's, if lucky.. and that's using SongPlayer. AMPlififier takes more CPU power yet. (IMHO)


Hi ,thanks again for your help ,i managed to get the boing bags 1+2 to work and the Amplifire to work pretty good ,not sure how ,just hope it lasts ,best wishes Brian.
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 25, 2011, 06:57:07 PM
Quote from: FaLLeNOnE;668648
Did you try messing with the settings of Amplifier?

As far as I remember, something got updated for Amplifier (paulaaudio.device?)


Hi ,yes i did alter the settings ,but i think the Maxtransfer ,settings did not help ,so i altered them ,and i have a pretty stable Amplifier at the moment ,the only thing i could not get to work was songplayer ,i could not get the player to open ,it was version 1.62 ,and im not quite good enough with the Amiga yet to alter too much ,i did manage to get the cf card hd installed which has speeded up things some what, so all in all really pleased and very grateful to every one ,best wishes Brian:)
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: marcfrick2112 on November 25, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
brian, weird that can get AMPlifier working, and not SongPlayer.... For what it's worth, SongPlayer 1.60 is more stable for me. Beyond having MUI installed, etc. (a number of different SongPlayer graphics sets on Aminet).
The only other thing, I found that SongPlayer will hang, if the MP3 is damaged... and oddly, even some VBR MP3's can cause this...
I'd also make sure your mpega.library is up-to-date, and you are using the correct version for your processor. I'm also running on an '060 here, so that makes a difference, I'm sure.. *if only I could afford a PPC board....* LOL!
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: Ancalimon on November 25, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
ppc made very little difference for me when playing mp3s. what made difference was the Delfina totally bypassing AHI
Title: Re: Boingbags 1and 2
Post by: mrmoonlight on November 27, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
Well i found out why i was having so much trouble ,the  4-Device IDE Interface  was playing up ,so i replaced it ,and reinstalled os 3.9 and wonderful ,mp3 that plays using the Amplifier ,excellent ,then i put the Boingbags 1+2 in again ,now i was always told ,if it aint broken dont mend it ,so in they went ,and down went my Amiga , wonderful lol ,there must be some thing on my Amiga that wont run with the Boingbags ,so i started again and reinstalled everything apart from the Boingbags 1+2 ,one day i may be clever enough to know the Amiga and why it wont work with them ,maybe the matrix accelerator ,i dont know  ,all i do know is i love the sound of the Amiga blasting out Beatle songs , and at the moment its sure doing a good job of that ,very best wishes Brian.