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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: amigakit on November 11, 2011, 03:40:19 PM

Title: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: amigakit on November 11, 2011, 03:40:19 PM
We are now offering special accessory offers for Chameleon (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1033)

Chameleon (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1033) is a new re-configurable computer system which many third-party cores in development such as Amiga (Minimig) and C64.  Spectrum core was demonstrated last week at the Replay Expo 2011 show by Individual Computers.

Latest accessory offers (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1033#configure) include discounted CDTV Remote Controller for use with the Chameleon.

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Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 12, 2011, 01:43:03 PM
Hello there, AmigaKit guys!

I've got several products from you in the past (like my Minimig + memory expansion, A1200, etc), and this one looks very tempting!

But I have some questions before I fall for it:

-Your specs page says it displays at 60HZ or more: is it unable to display PAL-50HZ games then? Most C64 & Amiga games are 50HZ after all. I have several monitors supporting Minimig 50Hz modes, so it's possible to display those modes on modern LCDs as you already know ;)

-How well does it simulate SID? Does it include filters?

-Does the Amiga beta core have a joystick emulation mode with keyboard?

That's all, folks.
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: ChaosLord on November 12, 2011, 02:10:43 PM
Does it output 8-bit video, 16-bit video or 24-bit video?
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: ribdevil1 on November 12, 2011, 02:30:36 PM
Hi, look in the next blog.
All the answers.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/chameleon_64/messages/1385?xm=1&m=p&tidx=1
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: ChaosLord on November 12, 2011, 03:21:36 PM
I found a lot of good infos.  Thanx :)

But I could not find any info about the video output bits. :(
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 12, 2011, 04:32:24 PM
I also read that group, but I didn't find any clear answers to my questions either.
It seems "there's frame conversion", so it seems 50HZ games are displayed at 60HZ with tearing (not matching framerate/screenrefresh) wich is not what I want.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: ChaosLord on November 12, 2011, 04:41:36 PM
@Gaula92

In one of his messages, Jens states that there is no smooth 50hz to 60hz conversion and there is no flickerfixer either.  Both for the same reason: There is not enough bandwidth available in the design.

I have 3 1084S monitors sitting here so I have no 50hz problems. :)   WOOPS!  The Chameleon hardware promotes the video output to 31.5 Khz so I can't use my 1084S monitor with it unless there is a way to disable the promotion.
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 12, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;667558
@Gaula92

In one of his messages, Jens states that there is no smooth 50hz to 60hz conversion and there is no flickerfixer either.  Both for the same reason: There is not enough bandwidth available in the design.

I have 3 1084S monitors sitting here so I have no 50hz problems. :)   WOOPS!  The Chameleon hardware promotes the video output to 31.5 Khz so I can't use my 1084S monitor with it unless there is a way to disable the promotion.


But I DON'T WANT a conversion: I want 50HZ VGA modes :) , just like the Minimig does.
I'm still confused: Is there 50HZ for PAL games? I don't mind about framerate conversions, I want the original framerates (at 31Khz, just like the Minimig once more).
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 14, 2011, 10:46:37 PM
No one has tried this Chamaleon C64 & Amiga with native video output at 50HZ?
All I need is to confirm it's smooth-scroll capable when running PAL games/demos at 50HZ...
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: F0LLETT on November 14, 2011, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: gaula92;667887
No one has tried this Chamaleon C64 & Amiga with native video output at 50HZ?
All I need is to confirm it's smooth-scroll capable when running PAL games/demos at 50HZ...


Hi,

I had planned to spend some time with Jens discussing the Chameleon.
However never got time at replay 2011. I have started playing around with Chameleon myself, so I will talk to Jens and find out for you.
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 15, 2011, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: F0LLETT;667891
Hi,

I had planned to spend some time with Jens discussing the Chameleon.
However never got time at replay 2011. I have started playing around with Chameleon myself, so I will talk to Jens and find out for you.


Hey thanks! Keep me informed :)
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 18, 2011, 02:05:11 PM
@F0LLET: Did you find out if the Chamaleon offers smooth scroll in PAL games with a 50HZ video mode? You have one yourself, if I got you right, so it's a matter of seconds to test :)
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: amigakit on November 18, 2011, 03:44:05 PM
Chameleon in C64 mode outputs a totally async picture at the moment. To reduce tearing effects, the framebuffer uses double-buffering. However, perfect scrolling can only be achieved if the TFT supports VSync display, or if a CRT is used.

The Amiga mode is based on Minimig. It has a sync output, so scrolling is perfect. Again, a flat screen must support VSync mode, which is usually a gamer's feature. Look for a monitor like that, and you'll have as smooth scrolling as you are used to from CRT screens.
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: strim on November 18, 2011, 05:32:45 PM
Hello Amigakit.

Will you offer replacement breakout cables (IEC/PS2/USB) for Chameleon ?
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: Erol on November 18, 2011, 05:57:02 PM
I'd love to know details of what this cartridge does when plugged into the C64.
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 18, 2011, 06:05:56 PM
@AmigaKit: Can I assume I'll get smooth scroll in Amiga mode in the same monitor where I get smooth scroll in a Minimig 1.1 board? (The one sold by you)
Title: Re: Chameleon Special Accessory Offers AmigaKit.com
Post by: gaula92 on November 23, 2011, 02:32:52 PM
bump!